Your point is well taken. IMO though, it's precisely because they just took on a big contract that they would be cautious about taking on another.
Right. I didn't get the impression that the Spurs were stopping with the Jefferson trade after the public comments by RC and Pop after it was completed.
Now they could backtrack and blame Finley opting to stay as the reason they won't use the full MLE. But I'm with you, it seems like they are ready to spend some of the lux tax benefits from prior seasons now.
He's baaaaaack.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130083
So its done finally!
I think something is brewing if the Spurs have already announced his decision, when everyone thought Fin would wait til the last minute to decide...
I dont think you'll get any argument on this board about Bruce, base. In the last 15 years hes my favourite spur who isnt headed to the hall of fame. But Bruce is not a spur right now and Finley more then likely is. *edit definitely is
Im not going to hold it against him for picking up the option. If we can find a good trade with him and Bonner then thats cool... but chances are that wont hapen either. We will get a big in FA and Finley will be the SF off the bench while Bonner is the PF off the bench. If come april either one of them is averaging more then 20mpg then I will be right there with you guys with the yelling and the indignancy. But getting upset about it now seems a little premature.
If given bench player minutes (10-15) then both Finley and Bonner could be a great help to this team.
This was pretty much last minute.
Maybe I should opt out and take the ST minimum for two years.
In our hypothetical, Bowen was re-signed only if Finley opted out. I don't see where we agreed Bowen is to be re-signed regardless.
If Finley doesn't opt out, Bowen's chances of coming back go south. I don't think you can just have him in a hypothetical rotation as a given.
Agree. And it would come to fruition much easier if Finley opts out.
In a perfect world where Holt has bottomless pockets, it'd be awesome if Finley opted to stay, the Spurs packaged him for a better player, Bowen was brought back and Holt would be willing to pay for the MLE, LLE and the extra roster spots created by the summer's second three-for-one trade. I just think that's a long shot ... especially factoring in Holt.
I'm fine with the Finley leaving, the Spurs signing Sheed or McDyess, Blair/Mahinmi/Bonner/Gist as the bigs off the bench, re-signing Bowen and the rest of the roster staying as is. To me, at least, it sounds like a much easier and more realistic journey from A to B.
And ............ I typed to slow.
Welcome back.
STD's never opt out.
At least they don't turn into pansy ass traders and go to the Rockets.
As a shooter, Finley > Bowen?
Last season
Finley FG% .437, 3P% .411
Bowen FG% .422 3P% .429
Finley and Bowen are approximately the same shooter. Bowen >>>>>> Finley at D.
Sin,
Mav Fan(the incredibly stupid ones)
Here's a positive: At least McDonald was right for once.
Yes, but Fin can take shots from more spots on the floor.
Does it matter if he doesn't make them?
He did make shots last year. The comparison was between him and Bowen and their shooting numbers. If they are =, then why not have the guy who can score from more spots?
Strictly offensively speaking.
Well, but there's the charade. You can't say I'm only gonna look on offense. Overall, Bowen is the better option.
Yes, that's true, but Bowen's ability on defense and his shot selection makes up for that..
Finley has no ability at all to make shots off the dribble at this point of his career..when he takes any type of dribble, he's going to miss..his offense really isn't significantly better than Bowen, it's just that he has more hot spots on the floor..
I'd rather have the guy that can only make consistent 3s on 2 parts of the floor, but will play good defense..instead of the guy that can make more shots on the floor, but doesn't play defense and takes horrible shots..
Well, that was not what I was responding to in the intial quote. The guy was comparing Bowen to Finley on offense.
If I had to pick between Finley and Bowen. It's a nobrainer. Bowen. We already have plenty firepower
More Bowen less Finley, please.
I think the majority of the Spurs Talk's users have been extremely unfair to M. Finley. He is definitely no longer starting material; but he is not trash either; some are saying that M. Finley is dead weight and they would rather play 4 on 5 if M. Finley were meant to play. M. Finley have made plenty of big shots on the Spurs the last 4 years; he was brought in to play his role which is knocking down the open shots and playing adequate defense; and he did that role fairly fine. Still to this day, i feel that M. Finley is still our best shooter on this team. I don't think he should play the role that he played last year which was close to 30 mpg as our starting SF; but i think he could fill the role of a backup just fine at 15-20 mpg. And some Spur's fan got to give up the fact that B. Bowen is coming back to play the backup SF spot; we had a lot of great years with B. Bowen, but age has finally caught up with him; and i think that was the main reason Pop kept him out the rotation for some times last year until M. Ginobili got injured. I really like this current depth chart once we sign a big man.
T. Parker / G. Hill / J. Mclinton
R. Mason / M. Ginobili / M. Hairston
R. Jefferson / M. Finley / J. Gist
R. Wallace / D. Blair / M. Bonner
T. Duncan / I. Mahnimi
I think what most posters are afraid of is that Pop's mancrush on Finley prevents him from playing Fin in limited minutes, even when his shot isn't falling.
There are another two threads for this. Did you really need to start another one?
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