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  1. #51
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    $14.5 million a year is a very "fair deal" for an "unproven center coming off an injury?"

    Robert Swift just got a boner.

    Seriously 14.5 million? At least give a half-hearted effort when you decide to troll, cmon man you're better than that.

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    Please. That simply ain't true. Two examples:

    Example 1. When that Courtney Lee guy missed that layup in game two. Remember that? You wouldn't a known it the next morning on ESPN. It was like he made it and the series was 1-1. ESPN would not acknowledge that shot...I mean that miss. To this day, I say to this day ESPN still qualifies it like so: "Well, the Lakers won their 15th NBA Championship...uh, uh, uh, oh yeah, the Boston Celtics have 17 NBA Championships. Uh, oh yeah, the Lakers are Champions, but, if Lee had made those layups, and Howard a made those free throws, and uh, that girl up in Denver with the Lincoln Tunnel for a chute (poop style) hadn't taken a buyout, well then the Lakers wouldn't have their 15th. We'll get even, we got Simmons & Legs running circles back there conjuring & figeting."

    Example 2. When that Fisher guy got that ball at .4 a few years back and then heaved it on in, ESPN that same night refused to acknowledge it (they watched you all take that fit) called for a Senate investigation (that may be the Magoof Bros. who called for the Senate investigation even earlier), but, just the same ESPN would not accept that Fisher make until Detroit beat us in the Finals. It was just awful.


    In game or series analysis vs free agent talk... you're in denial Laker fans... just start crying already... Ariza is leaving... that leaves you with choking Odom (if you're able to keep him too) and Sasha + Walton...

    Even if summing up Artest I don't think they'd be as good as they were last year...

  3. #53
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    I love Trevor but if it's more $$$ he wants let him go. He was definitely a important component to the Lakers run this year but it's not like he's not replaceable. It's the Laker core of Pau, Kobe and Odom that really runs the show. During the three-peat years from 2000-2002 we lost key guys in each season but kept pretty much the same core. Mitch will work his Magic somehow, someway to fill that spot. Sasha may or may not have a break out season next year but it's not like we don't know he has the potential. Look at Trevor; the boy was an unknown until he got with the Lakers. My point? Stop making predictions that without Trevor the Lakers lost their shot at repeating. No one guy, especially at the caliber of Trevor, makes or breaks a team like the Lakers. Ridiculous to think that. Non-Fans of the Lakers will hold unto anything that has the appearance of hurting "that" team. Trevor was important but repeating does not fringe on his staying or not. We are talking about the Lakers here. They still want to exploit and take advantage of the years left in Kobe, Pau and Lamar. You can bank on it.

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    In game or series analysis vs free agent talk... you're in denial Laker fans... just start crying already... Ariza is leaving... that leaves you with choking Odom (if you're able to keep him too) and Sasha + Walton...

    Even if summing up Artest I don't think they'd be as good as they were last year...
    Please. Yer just stove up still over that .4 shot by D. Fish + that strike shortened ring you accepted. It's ok, "Spursfans", sure your team didn't win 4 rings in the decade like the Lakers, but, you did ok for yerselves.

  5. #55
    Spur Forever urunobili's Avatar
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    Please. Yer just stove up still over that .4 shot by D. Fish + that strike shortened ring you accepted. It's ok, "Spursfans", sure your team didn't win 4 rings in the decade like the Lakers, but, you did ok for yerselves.
    I couldn't care less about the past... We're talking about the 2010 Lakers future loss of Ariza not Fisher's great shot... As you have nothing to argue with... you're just being in denial trying to somehow hurt us... apart from trolling another team's board you're an attention too?

  6. #56
    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    Please. That simply ain't true. Two examples:

    Example 1. When that Courtney Lee guy missed that layup in game two. Remember that? You wouldn't a known it the next morning on ESPN. It was like he made it and the series was 1-1. ESPN would not acknowledge that shot...I mean that miss. To this day, I say to this day ESPN still qualifies it like so: "Well, the Lakers won their 15th NBA Championship...uh, uh, uh, oh yeah, the Boston Celtics have 17 NBA Championships. Uh, oh yeah, the Lakers are Champions, but, if Lee had made those layups, and Howard a made those free throws, and uh, that girl up in Denver with the Lincoln Tunnel for a chute (poop style) hadn't taken a buyout, well then the Lakers wouldn't have their 15th. We'll get even, we got Simmons & Legs running circles back there conjuring & figeting."

    Example 2. When that Fisher guy got that ball at .4 a few years back and then heaved it on in, ESPN that same night refused to acknowledge it (they watched you all take that fit) called for a Senate investigation (that may be the Magoof Bros. who called for the Senate investigation even earlier), but, just the same ESPN would not accept that Fisher make until Detroit beat us in the Finals. It was just awful.
    Yeah make yourself believe ESPN hates the Lakers and Kobe. :

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    I couldn't care less about the past... We're talking about the 2010 Lakers future loss of Ariza not Fisher's great shot... As you have nothing to argue with... you're just being in denial trying to somehow hurt us... apart from trolling another team's board you're an attention too?
    Methinks you doth protest too much, "Spursfans."

    + you got that Manu guy comin' back for ya's. And Duncan may separate from the floor for the first time in like 2 years. That'd be something for ya to look forward to.

    But, one thing you ain't got: Fisher standin' there in Florida with that grin on his face, tellin' Kobe with those eyes: "we left these humps where we found 'em."

    Uh, uh, you ain't got that, daddy-O.

    Let us proceed...

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    Yeah make yourself believe ESPN hates the Lakers and Kobe. :
    The poor things over at ESPN still can't figure out how to reanimate Red to get by Phil once & again. That one really stung.

    tee, hee.

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    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    :wgaf:
    Methinks you doth protest too much, "Spursfans."

    + you got that Manu guy comin' back for ya's. And Duncan may separate from the floor for the first time in like 2 years. That'd be something for ya to look forward to.

    But, one thing you ain't got: Fisher standin' there in Florida with that grin on his face, tellin' Kobe with those eyes: "we left these humps where we found 'em."

    Uh, uh, you ain't got that, daddy-O.

    Let us proceed...
    :wgaf: Really, did Fisher and Kobe make out after that?

  10. #60
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    The poor things over at ESPN still can't figure out how to reanimate Red to get by Phil once & again. That one really stung.

    tee, hee.
    ESPN loves phil what are you talking about? Any reasonable fan will admit Red built his teams and that is why he is the greatest coach ever. I'm not saying Phil is bad, but he did walk into some pretty good situations. Get over it.

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    :wgaf:

    :wgaf: Really, did Fisher and Kobe make out after that?
    Probably not, they was too busy takin' that charter back to California. That other charter? The one Orlando had scheduled? Nope. Uh, uh. Fisher punched that ticket, canx that f'er. One going back to CA. One!

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    That was well described.
    Oh, yes. Bout everybody had given up on D (Fish that is)...hoping, , praying he'd given up on hisself. Nope. He never had a moments self doubt. Never even a smidge. He broke their ass...like he did at .4 Vs the Spurs.

    I recall an interview with Kobe at the start of the playoffs and the guy asked him if he was playing angry. Kobe said yes. That he wished others on the team played with anger over the '08 Finals, that only Fisher was at that point.

    It ain't Magic going left to right across parquet in '85 in MA., for 2 on that hook, and it ain't Worthy in tears in Los Angeles in '87 as he was informed he was Finals MVP, explaining at length how he'd tried too hard in Boston, but, coming home to Los Angeles he was able to execute his talent.

    No, it ain't those, but, it's as good as it gets this day.

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    So what? AC Green started every game of the 2000 Finals.

    This is way earlier in the thread but why is AC Green being compared to Slava?

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    This is way earlier in the thread but why is AC Green being compared to Slava?
    Neither of them ed chicks while they were on the Lakers?

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    I thought LA is going to bankrupt. Same could happen to Lakers. No wonder they want to let go Ariza

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    Instincts tell me Artest may be coming.

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    I like it when folks say "they have the inside scoop"...
    Ariza will follow the money...

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    Everybody needs to come down. If you guys witnessed the Bynum negotiations last year it was the same exact routine. Their agent, David Lee, is quite franky an amateur. He really has no clue what he is doing. Look at what he has done with the Ariza situation and look at the mistakes he has made. He is actually DRIVING arizas value lower than it is. I feel bad for Trev but its HIS agent.

    Anyways...during David and Mitch's phone conversation today Mitch never formally offered a #. it was basically go out and gather up some offers and we will match if its reasonable. But David can't come back with a $6 or $7 mil offer, he is only getting a few MLE deals, not even full deals. He is spouting off to ESPN trying to get Mitch to panick and overpay for his client, but Mitch will not bite. So relax...Ariza will be a Laker next year...the reason this is so crazy is because of David Lee. If he isn't careful he is going to be blackballed imo.

    This is what my informant with LAL told me about an hour ago. One thing I am worried about though is if Mitch loses patience and goes after Artest. The minute he offers Artest the MLE he is a Laker. If Ariza doesn't put Lee in check like Bynum did last year (Get a deal done with the Lakers ASAP or else...) he could put himself in a VERY VERY undesirable situation with less money and years then he would have with LA.

    CALM DOWN!

    pwn3d.

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    lol...

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    Everybody needs to come down. If you guys witnessed the Bynum negotiations last year it was the same exact routine. Their agent, David Lee, is quite franky an amateur. He really has no clue what he is doing. Look at what he has done with the Ariza situation and look at the mistakes he has made. He is actually DRIVING arizas value lower than it is. I feel bad for Trev but its HIS agent.

    Anyways...during David and Mitch's phone conversation today Mitch never formally offered a #. it was basically go out and gather up some offers and we will match if its reasonable. But David can't come back with a $6 or $7 mil offer, he is only getting a few MLE deals, not even full deals. He is spouting off to ESPN trying to get Mitch to panick and overpay for his client, but Mitch will not bite. So relax...Ariza will be a Laker next year...the reason this is so crazy is because of David Lee. If he isn't careful he is going to be blackballed imo.

    This is what my informant with LAL told me about an hour ago. One thing I am worried about though is if Mitch loses patience and goes after Artest. The minute he offers Artest the MLE he is a Laker. If Ariza doesn't put Lee in check like Bynum did last year (Get a deal done with the Lakers ASAP or else...) he could put himself in a VERY VERY undesirable situation with less money and years then he would have with LA.

    CALM DOWN!





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    Everybody needs to come down. If you guys witnessed the Bynum negotiations last year it was the same exact routine. Their agent, David Lee, is quite franky an amateur. He really has no clue what he is doing. Look at what he has done with the Ariza situation and look at the mistakes he has made. He is actually DRIVING arizas value lower than it is. I feel bad for Trev but its HIS agent.

    Anyways...during David and Mitch's phone conversation today Mitch never formally offered a #. it was basically go out and gather up some offers and we will match if its reasonable. But David can't come back with a $6 or $7 mil offer, he is only getting a few MLE deals, not even full deals. He is spouting off to ESPN trying to get Mitch to panick and overpay for his client, but Mitch will not bite. So relax...Ariza will be a Laker next year...the reason this is so crazy is because of David Lee. If he isn't careful he is going to be blackballed imo.

    This is what my informant with LAL told me about an hour ago. One thing I am worried about though is if Mitch loses patience and goes after Artest. The minute he offers Artest the MLE he is a Laker. If Ariza doesn't put Lee in check like Bynum did last year (Get a deal done with the Lakers ASAP or else...) he could put himself in a VERY VERY undesirable situation with less money and years then he would have with LA.

    CALM DOWN!

    Sometimes its better to keep your mouth shut.

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    Sometimes its better to keep your mouth shut.
    Dude you need to calm down

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    Ford is the Best in Texas scottspurs's Avatar
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    Everybody needs to come down. If you guys witnessed the Bynum negotiations last year it was the same exact routine. Their agent, David Lee, is quite franky an amateur. He really has no clue what he is doing. Look at what he has done with the Ariza situation and look at the mistakes he has made. He is actually DRIVING arizas value lower than it is. I feel bad for Trev but its HIS agent.

    Anyways...during David and Mitch's phone conversation today Mitch never formally offered a #. it was basically go out and gather up some offers and we will match if its reasonable. But David can't come back with a $6 or $7 mil offer, he is only getting a few MLE deals, not even full deals. He is spouting off to ESPN trying to get Mitch to panick and overpay for his client, but Mitch will not bite. So relax...Ariza will be a Laker next year...the reason this is so crazy is because of David Lee. If he isn't careful he is going to be blackballed imo.

    This is what my informant with LAL told me about an hour ago. One thing I am worried about though is if Mitch loses patience and goes after Artest. The minute he offers Artest the MLE he is a Laker. If Ariza doesn't put Lee in check like Bynum did last year (Get a deal done with the Lakers ASAP or else...) he could put himself in a VERY VERY undesirable situation with less money and years then he would have with LA.

    CALM DOWN!

    I guess your source was not that reliable after all.

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