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  1. #51
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    Bro, the Lakers threw the same money that Houston did. The ~ of a full MLE. Jesus...
    That doesn't matter. The point is you try for more money, whether it is there or not is all hindsight.

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    That doesn't matter. The point is you try for more money, whether it is there or not is all hindsight.
    That's not the point of contention stick.

    The Lakers told Ariza and his agent, go out and bring us back offers that are significantly above the MLE and we'll reconsider. At that point BOTH Ariza and his agent said FU to the Lakers and went public and trashed the organization saying they did not respect Ariza.

    THAT. Seriously, that's not how you do business.

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    This makes me wonder what went on in the conversation between Ariza and Morey when we were trying to woo him over to the Rockets. We have to have some sort of idea of what we are going to do, seeing as we don't really have any real money to spend with no backup or starting center for at least half of the season. Something must have sounded appealing to Trevor. Maybe it was just our second round series when he saw hard-working scrubs giving the Lakers all they can handle.

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    Seriously, that's not how you do business.
    Guess you haven't seen many offseasons in the NBA then.

    Problem is homers of every team think their players are all about championships and winning. Fact is, they all want cold, hard cash first, with very few exceptions.

    Why is Ariza saying he was disrespected special? Someone gets disrespected every damn season by someone, real or imagined in the NBA. They wanted to leverage the lakers into getting Ariza his paycheck and it didn't work. He still got the MLE the lakers would of given. How does he lose? He has his ring and he still gets long-term money that he would of gotten anyways.

    No one cares about playing for the hometown team or for contenders. The only ones that do are at the tail end of their careers when they realize they will be remembered for nothing.

    Judging by all the Ariza threads here, this whole situation was only notable because he was a Laker. Yet lakerfan acts like Ariza pulled a spreewell

    http://ballhype.com/story/latrell_sp...eds_some_cash/

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    This makes me wonder what went on in the conversation between Ariza and Morey when we were trying to woo him over to the Rockets. We have to have some sort of idea of what we are going to do, seeing as we don't really have any real money to spend with no backup or starting center for at least half of the season. Something must have sounded appealing to Trevor. Maybe it was just our second round series when he saw hard-working scrubs giving the Lakers all they can handle.
    Huge amounts of playtime on a depleted roster will increase his ppg a good deal and increase his future stock.

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    ...OR, he'll feel so much pressure to increase his ppg on that depleted roster that he'll step out the side door.

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    Andrew Bynum says otherwise.

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    No...Trevor deserved better than what he got.

    His agent just ed up.

    I'm glad Artest in on the team but I'm still going to miss him.

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    Andrew Bynum says otherwise.
    Funny coming from a fan of the team paying Richard Jefferson 14 million next year.

    I guarantee you Bynum will earn his contract more than Jefferson. That fairy got RJ couldn't even spell defense if Luke's life depended on it.

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    RJ likes the fact that he is much closer to Luke Walton.

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    Huge amounts of playtime on a depleted roster will increase his ppg a good deal and increase his future stock.
    Future stock? I hope you dont mean that he will want to get payed more in the future. He signed a deal for 5 years. If you sign a deal for 5 years to me it means that you just want to become a better player and get in a comfort zone where you can live a good professional basketball life. Yes you can get extensions but thats no guarantee. I think he went to the Rockets bc he saw how much passion and how hardworking they are.

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    Funny coming from a fan of the team paying Richard Jefferson 14 million next year.

    I guarantee you Bynum will earn his contract more than Jefferson. That fairy got RJ couldn't even spell defense if Luke's life depended on it.
    Didn't think this one out did ya?

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    I loved this guy as a Laker but he gets no sympathy from me for what his agent did to his career. He gainfully employed this guy and fully deserves what he got coming to him.

    It didn't make any sense to me why Kupchak would dump Ariza like a sack of rocks and jump ship to Artest once free agency began. Kupchak is very conservative and I know he was willing to give Ariza the contract he deserved, which was slightly above the MLE. Ariza's greed and money hungry agent thought they could play hardball and force Mitch into paying him significantly more and the whole thing ended up backfiring in his face. Now Ariza is stuck on a ty HOU team going into rebuild mode while he watches his hometown team likely make it back to the Finals.

    He just learned a very valuable business lesson. Don't with Buss.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13174
    For once dont be such a got. Be grateful for him, because no 15th le without him

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    Blah blah blah, everything in this thread doesn't matter.

    Ariza chose the Rockets over more money (Raptors) and better teams (Lakers and Cavs).

    We locked him up for the duration of his prime;

    If Battier doesn't get traded, he'll be under Batman's wings learnings the secrets to defensive glue basketball.

    Fakers bashing Ariza

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    Blah blah blah, everything in this thread doesn't matter.

    Ariza chose the Rockets over more money (Raptors) and better teams (Lakers and Cavs).

    We locked him up for the duration of his prime;

    If Battier doesn't get traded, he'll be under Batman's wings learnings the secrets to defensive glue basketball.

    Fakers bashing Ariza

    You are right. Now that you have Ariza, you will be winning the championship.

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    Funny coming from a fan of the team paying Richard Jefferson 14 million next year.

    I guarantee you Bynum will earn his contract more than Jefferson. That fairy got RJ couldn't even spell defense if Luke's life depended on it.
    I would prefer paying 14 million for someone who can stay on the court for more than 5 minutes at a time without getting into foul trouble. The 20 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists are just a bonus.

    You seem to have a pretty big fascination with RJ and Luke's relationship. You like thinking about two men being together?

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    whoever is being a about Ariza

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    whoever is being a about Ariza
    Hi !

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    People hate you.
    And you're basically the TshlongII of Laker Fans

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    I still cant figure out how laker fans are saying that Ariza "got what he deserved." What did he get that he deserved exactly? He obviously chose to leave all by himself.... This is just all so confusing to me as to why laker fans are so mad about this situation. He left and is coming to Houston, get over it. Seems like to me he did get what he deserved and that is the MLE and a chance to get a lot more playing time and improve his game. Otherwise I dont see what else he deserved that he got

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    I still cant figure out how laker fans are saying that Ariza "got what he deserved." What did he get that he deserved exactly? He obviously chose to leave all by himself.... This is just all so confusing to me as to why laker fans are so mad about this situation. He left and is coming to Houston, get over it. Seems like to me he did get what he deserved and that is the MLE and a chance to get a lot more playing time and improve his game. Otherwise I dont see what else he deserved that he got
    It's just that Laker fans are astounded by the fact that one of their key players actually left L.A.

    Laker fans reaction: "But, But, we're L.A.!!!"

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    I still cant figure out how laker fans are saying that Ariza "got what he deserved." What did he get that he deserved exactly? He obviously chose to leave all by himself.... This is just all so confusing to me as to why laker fans are so mad about this situation. He left and is coming to Houston, get over it. Seems like to me he did get what he deserved and that is the MLE and a chance to get a lot more playing time and improve his game. Otherwise I dont see what else he deserved that he got
    Are you really this dense?

    Laker fans loved Ariza. He easily got the 2nd loudest cheers at the parade.

    But we all understood that business is a reality of the NBA and that Ariza would be the hardest to resign. Mitch offered Trevor exactly what I thought he would, the MLE. Trevor had every right to go look for a better deal, but it was the WAY IN WHICH HIS AGENT HANDLED THE BUSINESS that we are upset about. His agent told Mitch from the start to go himself after Mitch offered the MLE and said to Trevor that he should go find those better deals and bring them back so the Lakers could think about matching them. And what does Ariza ultimately end up signing for, the MLE.

    If the kid and his agent had any brains they would not have been so hostile in negotiations. Trevor could be making the same god damn money on a championship team, but now he's stuck on a craptastic team that prob. won't even make the playoffs next season.

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    It's just that Laker fans are astounded by the fact that one of their key players actually left L.A.

    Laker fans reaction: "But, But, we're L.A.!!!"
    And a better player came and signed for less to play in LA

    You think Trevor wants to be playing in Crutch City? no he doesn't, if he's going to be making the same exact money your in pure denial to think he'd rather be in Houston then LA. His agent ed everything up.
    Last edited by KSeal; 07-05-2009 at 07:04 PM.

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    And a better player came and signed for less to play in LA

    You think Trevor wants to be playing in Crutch City? no he doesn't, if he's going to be making the same exact money your in pure denial to think he'd rather be in Houston then LA. His agent ed everything up.
    The way he got treated in the end i don't think he is gonna miss L.A a whole lot.

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    The way he got treated in the end i don't think he is gonna miss L.A a whole lot.
    You obviously have no clue what happened. Go look it up and then come back and comment.

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