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    So far. My understanding is there are two complaints outstanding. Surely you did not think her legal trouble was at an end? That would greatly discommode your legal harassment thesis.
    I just saw an interview with her lawyer on Greta's show. He said there have been 15 ethics suits filed and all have been dismissed. He mentioned the most recent one but I'm not sure if was including that. Palin's cost $500k, alaska's cost $2 million. One of the dismissed suits was because Palin gave an interview to Greta in the governors office and claimed that she therefore used government resources for a partisan event. He also said that the most recent one was filed by the same person who filed some of the others. Also that many of them have been filed using pseudonym's and so far they have traced one of them back to an official blogger for the national democratic party. The ironic thing that he pointed out is that they are able to use this tactic because of a loophole in the ethics reform bill that Palin pushed through the legislature.

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    The ironic thing that he pointed out is that they are able to use this tactic because of a loophole in the ethics reform bill that Palin pushed through the legislature.
    Let's not forget that Sarah Palin investigated herself to moot another inquiry. Wonder what the bill was for that?

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    What was that one about?

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    alaska's cost $2 million.
    ADN reports $296,000 thru July 1, 2009, with two thirds consumed by *Troopergate*.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 07-08-2009 at 12:11 AM. Reason: incorrect date

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    What was that one about?
    I don't clearly recall. It may have been related to Dude-gate.



    Edit: it was Troopergate.

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    Palin reversed an earlier pledge and refused to cooperate with the Legislature's investigation, calling it politically biased. In an unusual twist, she filed the ethics complaint against herself before the board, saying she hoped to "clear the air" by an inquiry through proper channels. She asked the board to decide if she broke ethics laws or acted improperly in dismissing Monegan or in dealing with Wooten
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    Ah troopergate. I was under the impression that the 15 complaints were post election and did not include troopergate.

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    The actual figure was, uh, much smaller wouldn't you say?

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    And 2/3 of the cost to Alaska was an investigation Palin initiated against herself.

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    And 2/3 of the cost to Alaska was an investigation Palin initiated against herself.
    Would you please stop confusing them with actual facts? Thank you.

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    Who knows, maybe the ADN is low-balling it.

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    Underestimating the cost by a factor of ten would be very, very naughty...

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    The actual figure was, uh, much smaller wouldn't you say?
    The figure from the personnel board is much smaller I would say. Whether or not that is the actual figure I don't know. I'd have to see more details on the how they and the Palin camp are coming up with their numbers.

    Would you please stop confusing them with actual facts? Thank you.
    I just relayed what I heard Palin's attorney say. Maybe your the one who is confused...I don't really care much about this topic. If Palin makes a run in 2011 I'll judge her then. Why she resigned, what she said to Couric/Gibson etc...who gives a . It will be old news by then.

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    The figure from the personnel board is much smaller I would say. Whether or not that is the actual figure I don't know. I'd have to see more details on the how they and the Palin camp are coming up with their numbers.
    If Palin's attorney quotes a figure very greatly (almost 10x more) at variance with the official report of Alaska's personnel board, so much the worse for the credibility of her counsel, unless he is willing to release another tally. Has he? Sounds like maybe he told a tall tale, if you remember aright, SnakeBoy.

    I just relayed what I heard Palin's attorney say. Maybe your the one who is confused...I don't really care much about this topic.
    Fair enough. I can let this one go.

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    I see no figure hostile to my brief there.

    Since Ms. Palin returned to Alaska after the 2008 campaign, some 150 FOIA requests have been filed and her office has been targeted for investigation by everyone from the FBI to the Alaska legislature. Most have centered on Ms. Palin's use of government resources, and to date have turned up little save for a few state trips that she agreed to reimburse the state for because her children had accompanied her. In the process, though, she ac ulated $500,000 in legal fees in just the last nine months, and knew the bill would grow ever larger in the future.

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    ADN reports $296,000 thru July 1, 2009, with two thirds consumed by *Troopergate*.
    And 2/3 of the cost to Alaska was an investigation Palin initiated against herself.
    You are focusing only on the ethics complaints. The bulk of the cost is because of the FOIA requests.

    Palin returns to work, defends decision to resign, says Alaska better off with 2nd-in-command
    In an interview with The Associated Press, Palin defended her decision to step down after a year in which she has been bombarded with a series of ethics complaints and publics records requests that have cost the state nearly $2 million to investigate, according to a tally provided by the governor's office Tuesday.
    According to the cost breakdown from the governor's office, the state Department of Law incurred expenses exceeding $116,000 investigating Palin's firing of her public safety commissioner in a legislative probe that came to be dubbed Troopergate.
    looks like $116 k is less than half... I wonder what accounts for the difference. Anchorage Daily News reports it at $187,797. Could it be FOIAs attached to that as well?

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    Hm, there may be something to that. It sounds plausible to me. The Palin tally counts a wider variety of costs.

    Sorry I busted your balls on the figure, SnakeBoy. Yours may be legit.

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    I'll read the rest later, but I enjoyed watching whottt get owned by Wild Cobra of all people.

    You can't put a price on that entertainment.


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    Wasn't her that push through the state ethics law that allows FOIA requests to be filed by anybody?
    Even if she didn't, the system is obviously flawed if, as she claims, it brought down the state government to a halt and costs inordinate amounts of taxpayer money to keep up with it.
    She most likely didn't have the political support to do anything about it.

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    She's all about the money and I don't blame her but that is her #1 reason and it is obvious. I'd say 90% of us would do the same thing and go for the green.

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    Here's what I don't get...

    Why should a person in public office have to pay for her own defense when it's a matter of corruption? That's a uniquely governmental type charge, usually. You'd think that higher level offices like governors would have a defense team provided or something like that. At the least, she could alays go with a public defender, right?

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    Here's what I don't get...

    Why should a person in public office have to pay for her own defense when it's a matter of corruption? That's a uniquely governmental type charge, usually. You'd think that higher level offices like governors would have a defense team provided or something like that. At the least, she could alays go with a public defender, right?
    She's a maverick...

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    She's going to be rich!!

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    Here's what I don't get...

    Why should a person in public office have to pay for her own defense when it's a matter of corruption? That's a uniquely governmental type charge, usually. You'd think that higher level offices like governors would have a defense team provided or something like that. At the least, she could always go with a public defender, right?
    Uh, that would probably be a bad move.

    Honestly, I don't know what's customary with the legal bills of US governors. I can see how states wouldn't want to pay for ethics/corruption defense, in case the defendant loses.

    Relatedly: should states really pay for the defense of (possibly) corrupt pols?

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