Mavs Not Getting Gortat

[leemajors]

When is the deadline to match the offer sheet?

[Shank]

Though I know that's not official, I will go with what the local media in Orlando is saying over what desperate Mav fans trying to rationalize everything.

Here's the page for the "local" Orlando station that supposedly broke the news at 1am (1am? AHAHAHA. Sure.)

http://www.clickorlando.com/index.html

Care to point out where the "local media" are saying these things?

[Shank]

LOL CUBAN

lol people that use internet messageboards as their main source of information

lol hoping the mavs fail

lol blair

[nkdlunch]

"Mark Cuban will shower $34 million on Marcin Gortat and his 4 points per game scoring average the next 5 years for the Mavs. "

is this true???

[Leetonidas]

lol mavericks

[Shank]

When is the deadline to match the offer sheet?

Wednesday, though I don't know if it's the 12:01am deadline or when the offices close late in the day.

[ElNono]

And what part of matching salary-for-salary don't you understand? That team would still have to give up $5+ in salaries. Not in cash, not in draft picks - in equal salaries. You know how many scrubs it's going to take to reach 5 million?

That's not accurate. Go take a look how we dumped Jackie Butler's contract.
Also, for trading with non-guaranteed contracts, go take a look how we acquired RJ.

And why would they trade him away for absolutely nothing in return? They're better off in just not signing him in the first place. In your scenario, they get nothing. In not signing him, they don't waste their time with filling out a roster with a guy they know isn't going to be there AND they can devote their efforts into bringing in players they're not going to have to haggle with while the season is unfolding.

Reading is fundamental. They get a 1st round pick and cash.

Besides, Gortat will have to approve of the team to which he's being traded. He's already said he doesn't want to go to Houston to take over for Yao. His heart is set on Dallas. If the Magic try to flip him to OKC, he can simply refuse until these rights are up a year after the signing and the Magic are left with an unhappy player and are still on the hook for his salary.

He has actually already said that while he was looking forward to going to Dallas, he wouldn't have a problem going back to Orlando. I can find the quote if you want.

[Shank]

"Mark Cuban will shower $34 million on Marcin Gortat and his 4 points per game scoring average the next 5 years for the Mavs. "

is this true???

lol bonner

[leemajors]

Wednesday, though I don't know if it's the 12:01am deadline or when the offices close late in the day.

I love how they drag these out. This thread should be at 300 pages by then.

[ElNono]

For 1 year, he does. The only team to which he certainly couldn't be traded is Dallas. All the others, he has a right to refuse.

To qualify for Bird rights you need to have played at least 3 years for the same team. This is Gortat's second year with the Magic.

"To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."

[Shank]

That's not accurate. Go take a look how we dumped Jackie Butler's contract.
Also, for trading with non-guaranteed contracts, go take a look how we acquired RJ.



Reading is fundamental. They get a 1st round pick and cash.



He has actually already said that while he was looking forward to going to Dallas, he wouldn't have a problem going back to Orlando. I can find the quote if you want.

He also said he wants to play more - something that certainly won't happen any time soon in Orlando.

1st round pick and cash? Who is going to give them a 1st round pick? The other teams interested and willing to take on that money are the Mavs, the Rockets and the Thunder. No way the Rockets or the Thunder give up a 1 in the positions they're in. And who wants to give up cash if your team is under the cap already and looking at a lower cap number the following season? They'll keep that money. $5+million AND cash for Gortat? You'd be looking at something near 7 million and a 1st round pick AND a small number of players just to get a guy that shouldn't have been re-signed in the first place.

I get what you're saying, I just don't think it makes a lot of business sense for either party to get involved in such a thing.

[ElNono]

He also said he wants to play more - something that certainly won't happen any time soon in Orlando.

1st round pick and cash? Who is going to give them a 1st round pick? The other teams interested and willing to take on that money are the Mavs, the Rockets and the Thunder. No way the Rockets or the Thunder give up a 1 in the positions they're in. And who wants to give up cash if your team is under the cap already and looking at a lower cap number the following season? They'll keep that money. $5+million AND cash for Gortat? You'd be looking at something near 7 million and a 1st round pick AND a small number of players just to get a guy that shouldn't have been re-signed in the first place.

I get what you're saying, I just don't think it makes a lot of business sense for either party to get involved in such a thing.

I understand your point too. But after looking what a guy like Varejao received, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[sribb43]

I love how they drag these out. This thread should be at 300 pages by then.

It used to be 14 days to match until a few years ago...thank God they change it. I cant take anymore of this Gorat hype/speculation. You'd think the Mavs are signing Lebron

[Shank]

To qualify for Bird rights you need to have played at least 3 years for the same team. This is Gortat's second year with the Magic.

"To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."

I'm taking this from David Lord, DB.com, and the mass confusion that is the NBA CBA and BYC players.

[Shank]

I understand your point too. But after looking what a guy like Varejao received, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

That deal was just dumb in the first place. I think every GM in the league said "what the ?" when that went down.

[ElNono]

I'm taking this from David Lord, DB.com, and the mass confusion that is the NBA CBA and BYC players.

I know, it's crazy. The question here is if they resign him, he would be entering his third year, even though he hasn't played his third year.
So I'm really not 100% how the bird rights apply if at all in that case.

[ElNono]

That deal was just dumb in the first place. I think every GM in the league said "what the ?" when that went down.

Well, but look at Dice and Rasheed. They're definitely in the twilight of their careers and both received an optional 3rd year in their contracts. Luckily for us, Dice is a team option.
It's just crazy what the demand is for talented or potentially talented big man.

[Shank]

Heads-up for the 3pm CT presser introducing Bass in Orlando. We'll see if something is said or we can read between the lines if Otis (seriously, the guy's name is Otis) speaks at the event.

[Leetonidas]

All jokes aside, when did Gortat sign the offer sheet and til when does Orlando have to match?

[Findog]

All jokes aside, when did Gortat sign the offer sheet and til when does Orlando have to match?

He signed July 8th and the Magic have until the 15th to match.

[mardigan]

lol bonner

I don't get it.

[ElNono]

Heads-up for the 3pm CT presser introducing Bass in Orlando. We'll see if something is said or we can read between the lines if Otis (seriously, the guy's name is Otis) speaks at the event.

If that's not a d-bag name, I don't know what is.

[Basketballgirl25]

Heads-up for the 3pm CT presser introducing Bass in Orlando. We'll see if something is said or we can read between the lines if Otis (seriously, the guy's name is Otis) speaks at the event.

yeah the guys name in really Otis, just like Dirk is really named Dirk

[Shank]

Gimme $5 unleaded and a Chunky Bar, Otis.

[Basketballgirl25]

nah we were robbed

nah your weren't Dallas fans just hate that Dirk couldn't win so they have to blame other teams. Gets back at the fans good that Dallas isn't winning anytime soon, maybe once you guys admit Dallas lost the NBA will help you win