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  1. #26
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    The Cobbster, pickin' 'em up.........layin' 'em down.

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    They can't get over the fact that the "rapist" won a ring without Shaq. It eats them alive inside that Kobe did what they all proclaimed for years he would never do.

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    It eats them alive inside that Kobe did what they all proclaimed for years he would never do.
    But enough about Lakers fans and the fact that Kobe Bryant forcibly sodomized a woman.

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    And now they go back to the rapist card since they can't discuss anything related to basketball.

    They are pretty predictable.

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    TBH, discussing anything basketball-related with Laker fans is completely pointless, since the majority of Laker fans are delusional about anything involving their team..

    No, we go back to the rapist card because we still can't believe it..

    only Laker fans actually want to ignore and downplay somebody RAPING a woman..that speaks on how disgusting you people are..I know it eats you up inside to know that you actually condone that type of behavior, certainly that isn't normal..

    if Kobe wasn't a Laker, he would be in prison right now, or at least getting the OJ treatment, which is what should have happened..

    Ariza and Odom also must obviously know that Kobe is a threat to throw them under the bus anytime something goes wrong, which is something he has done multiple times in the past..maybe he will snitch on them too if he finds out about a secret involving them, since he's also done that in the past to one of his teammates too..

    I'll take Phil Jackson's word for it btw..he said "he wasn't surprised" when he heard Kobe allegedly raped a woman..

  6. #31
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    ^Prove that Kobe raped Kate Faber.

  7. #32
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    It's all about $$$, egos, and winning. It's not about Ariza and Odom wanting to leave. They want(ed) to stay.

    Dr. Buss in Ariza's case offered the guy market value. He doubled his salary! Wouldn't you be thrilled if your employer, in a down economy doubled yours? And your agent balks and pulls the respect card? Most peoples ego would check in too and tell the guy to not let the door hit him on the way out. But in the sports business, you have needs and sometimes you have to swallow that ego to be compe ive. Well, Artest was chomping at the bit to be a Laker and actually is a better player than Ariza. Not only that, he's willing to take less money. No brainer for the front office. Ariza's agent played hardball with bad timing and not knowing all the cards that were on the table. Ariza wanted to stay, Buss wanted to keep him. That Artest was begging to be a Laker gave Buss options he normally would not have had. And the Lakers improved in the process. The "respect" comments by the agent can be intrepreted as "I ed up and have to say someting to save face"... nothing more.

    As for Odom, Dr Buss overpaid him for 5 years since the Shaq trade. How many threads have you seen across the internet talking about how great he could be and how inconsistent he is. He had a good year and was a valuable contruibutor to the le no doubt. That does not change the fact that he was overpaid. He has been offered fair market deals. So your an employer, you have put up with less than stellar production for 5 years while paying a guy much more than market value and you offer the guy a fair contract that only a couple of other companies would or could pay. And you hear nothing back other than the said employee was talking to others? You wouldnt be miffed? You tell the guy to not let the door hit him. Except in this case, there is no replacement at the doorstep wanting in so and you want to stay compe ive. So you posture. The cards are on the table. The egos are in play. The sides are playing poker and waiting for a tell. Odom has flinched first and my guess is he folds and takes the offer. Because just like the thread says.... why would he want to leave the Lakers?

    As for all the Kobe hating comments.... It's well known that both Ariza and Odom are good friends with Kobe and love playing with him.

    The rapist comments? Really? You can't get past that already? So so sad....
    too long

  8. #33
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    ^Prove that Kobe raped Kate Faber.
    prove that he didn't..

    the only people that know what happened are the 2 of them..the difference is that the guy that did it is a very rich man that plays for the Lakers, allowing him the resources to completely this woman and her case up, which was clearly what happened in the case..see: OJ Simpson..and more recently, Donte Stallworth, who "settled" with the family out of the court, despite clearly killing somebody while drunk, which would have been at least 10 years for a normal person..

    $$$ buys freedom..

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    LA is a hole. Nice weather but shallow people and a nightmare of sprawling traffic. The weather is spoiled by smog.

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    the best part of being a Laker fan is reading about how you openly cheer for an alleged rapist?..

    what about how you destroy your city and swarm people after your team wins a le?..

  11. #36
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    TBH, discussing anything basketball-related with Laker fans is completely pointless, since the majority of Laker fans are delusional about anything involving their team..

    No, we go back to the rapist card because we still can't believe it..

    only Laker fans actually want to ignore and downplay somebody RAPING a woman..that speaks on how disgusting you people are..I know it eats you up inside to know that you actually condone that type of behavior, certainly that isn't normal..

    if Kobe wasn't a Laker, he would be in prison right now, or at least getting the OJ treatment, which is what should have happened..

    Ariza and Odom also must obviously know that Kobe is a threat to throw them under the bus anytime something goes wrong, which is something he has done multiple times in the past..maybe he will snitch on them too if he finds out about a secret involving them, since he's also done that in the past to one of his teammates too..
    Or maybe, just some of us look at the case with some objectivity because we arent laker haters and see it for what it is. An extra marital affair with a young girl that saw $$$$ and tried to cash in. Unfortunately for her, her past and the 6 layers of guys spunk in her panties other than Kobes let her down. Just like Arizas agent, she bluffed and didn't know all the cards on the table.

    You toss out the RAPE word as if it was FACT and it's not. Is it possible? Of course it is. And it is just a possible and more likely, with the girls history of instability and promiscuity, that she was seeking her meal ticket. The case is over, he was NOT convicted of rape. That is fact. It has been discussed a bizillion times, and yet you cannot let it go because its all you got as ammunition against the Laker fan brecause you will always fall short if you had to actually talk basketball, franchises, history, or les.

    Why is it you never hear about the Shawn Kemp, Isiah Rider, Ruben Patterson, Qyntel Wood, Jason Kidd, Eddie Griffen, Allen Iverson discretions to name a few when talking about their teams? Because you don't have to... you can actually make a case why your team is better than theirs, why your star player is better. So as usual, when you cannot counter with anything related to basketball you belittle yourself and pull out the "rapist" card because you are so insecure and it just eats at you to see the Lakers and Kobe win.

    And everytime you do... it's just another indication that the Lakers and their fans have not only won on the court and in the stands, but they have also won in your heads... and that my friend is domination...

    and it's SWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!




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    1 word- Kome

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    They can't get over the fact that the "rapist" won a ring without Shaq. It eats them alive inside that Kobe did what they all proclaimed for years he would never do.
    Gasol= the real Finals MVP

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    Why is it you never hear about the Shawn Kemp, Isiah Rider, Ruben Patterson, Qyntel Wood,
    This is why I never pull the rape card... people could go on for hours about all the ex blazers who were accused also lol or just the dumb asses who were in trouble all the time, or pulling out basketball cards for ID's haha.

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    This is why I never pull the rape card... people could go on for hours about all the ex blazers who were accused also lol or just the dumb asses who were in trouble all the time, or pulling out basketball cards for ID's haha.
    Who cares, just do it. Even if it isn't 100% true, it still pisses the homers off.

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    Or maybe, just some of us look at the case with some objectivity because we arent laker haters and see it for what it is. An extra marital affair with a young girl that saw $$$$ and tried to cash in. Unfortunately for her, her past and the 6 layers of guys spunk in her panties other than Kobes let her down. Just like Arizas agent, she bluffed and didn't know all the cards on the table.

    You toss out the RAPE word as if it was FACT and it's not. Is it possible? Of course it is. And it is just a possible and more likely, with the girls history of instability and promiscuity, that she was seeking her meal ticket. The case is over, he was NOT convicted of rape. That is fact. It has been discussed a bizillion times, and yet you cannot let it go because its all you got as ammunition against the Laker fan brecause you will always fall short if you had to actually talk basketball, franchises, history, or les.

    Why is it you never hear about the Shawn Kemp, Isiah Rider, Ruben Patterson, Qyntel Wood, Jason Kidd, Eddie Griffen, Allen Iverson discretions to name a few when talking about their teams? Because you don't have to... you can actually make a case why your team is better than theirs, why your star player is better. So as usual, when you cannot counter with anything related to basketball you belittle yourself and pull out the "rapist" card because you are so insecure and it just eats at you to see the Lakers and Kobe win.

    And everytime you do... it's just another indication that the Lakers and their fans have not only won on the court and in the stands, but they have also won in your heads... and that my friend is domination...

    and it's SWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!



    first of all..

    when you look up my history, I've been "pulling the rape" card since it happened..even when the Lakers were a bad team in 2005, 2006, and 2007..it has nothing to do with the Lakers success, maybe unlike you, I actually have morals and respect, so I actually care when somebody rapes another person..

    I'm basing my assumptions on the characters of those involved, which is exactly what Laker fans did with the woman..I'm doing the same thing for Kobe..he has a history of having a bad temper, he has a history of ting on people around him..Phil Jackson himself said that he wasn't surprised that Kobe was accused of this kind of thing, which speaks volumes on Kobe's character..

    it's easy to make up about a woman and kill her case when you have the resources..but nobody can deny all of Kobe's incidents, because they were in public..the price of being a celebrity..

    at the end of the day, he put himself in that situation by cheating on his wife, and only the 2 of them know what happened..I'm basing my assumptions on the fact that he actually admitted to having intercourse with her, and basing it on his horribly flawed character..it doesn't help that he actually choked her while ing her, and that she was bleeding..it also doesn't help that he tried to get out of it by bringing up Shaq's name..

    You hear about Iverson, Kidd, and Kemp all the time, so that's a horrible point..the reason you don't hear them as much as Kobe is obvious, Kobe is arguably the most well-known superstar in the NBA, and easily the most hyped outside of Lebron..that shouldn't be your point, it's a poor one..if somebody brought up Ruben Patterson or any of these other scrubs, I would be saying the same thing, but they're clearly irrelevant..

    that's my problem though..that's the difference..Kobe is still hailed and praised everywhere, and people ignore these incidents, even though they are huge incidents..it's very sad..

    Like I said before..Laker fans are by far the least knowledgeable fans in the NBA, arguing with them is very easy, but it gets tiring..you guys are delusional about everything, and you don't realize the fact that the majority of your team's success is based on location of the city..from arguing about Bynum being "Duncan with better athleticism", to arguing that Kobe is better than Jordan..Laker fans are BY FAR the worst fans in the NBA..

    Laker fans are also by far the most insecure fans in the NBA, probably in all of sports..they'll constantly bring up the Lakers name or Kobe's name in any conversation, even if it has nothing to do with them..they make threads on SpursTalk on the Spurs side of the forum, about how the Lakers were better than the Spurs last year, even though every one of us admitted it..they need re-assurance all the time..

    Now not only are you cheering for an alleged rapist that s and snitches on his teammates..you're now cheering for a guy that beats his wife, and abuses animals..

    when will you guys show some decency?..

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    They can't get over the fact that the "rapist" won a ring without Shaq. It eats them alive inside that Kobe did what they all proclaimed for years he would never do.
    Yep. It was their worst nightmare come to fruition.

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    Or maybe, just some of us look at the case with some objectivity because we arent laker haters and see it for what it is. An extra marital affair with a young girl that saw $$$$ and tried to cash in. Unfortunately for her, her past and the 6 layers of guys spunk in her panties other than Kobes let her down. Just like Arizas agent, she bluffed and didn't know all the cards on the table.

    You toss out the RAPE word as if it was FACT and it's not. Is it possible? Of course it is. And it is just a possible and more likely, with the girls history of instability and promiscuity, that she was seeking her meal ticket. The case is over, he was NOT convicted of rape. That is fact. It has been discussed a bizillion times, and yet you cannot let it go because its all you got as ammunition against the Laker fan brecause you will always fall short if you had to actually talk basketball, franchises, history, or les.

    Why is it you never hear about the Shawn Kemp, Isiah Rider, Ruben Patterson, Qyntel Wood, Jason Kidd, Eddie Griffen, Allen Iverson discretions to name a few when talking about their teams? Because you don't have to... you can actually make a case why your team is better than theirs, why your star player is better. So as usual, when you cannot counter with anything related to basketball you belittle yourself and pull out the "rapist" card because you are so insecure and it just eats at you to see the Lakers and Kobe win.

    And everytime you do... it's just another indication that the Lakers and their fans have not only won on the court and in the stands, but they have also won in your heads... and that my friend is domination...

    and it's SWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!



    God damn that's some world class ownage cobbler. Couldn't have said it better myself.

    A word about Kate Faber, the alleged rape victim. When she went to take the rape test she was found with several sources of semen in her vagina from multiple partners. To say she was promiscuous is an understatement. This woman went up to Kobe's room at midnight claiming she wanted an autograph for crying out loud. Her initial story to the police was riddled with outright lies about where she was, times, etc. It was later disclosed from friends of hers that she had attempted to commit suicide just four months prior to the incident and was taking medication for anti-depression and schizophrenia. Forgive me for not giving this woman the complete benefit of the doubt here.

    I don't pretend to know what happened in Colorado. All I know is there is no conclusive evidence to say much of anything either way. Had the case gone to trial Kobe's defense lawyers probably would have shredded this woman's credibility instantly and he would have been acquitted.

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    Gosh, you people are clueless. He had choke sex with another woman while he was married. the legality, the dudes is a rotten piece of and you guys are for defending it.
    Nobody is defending adultery.

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    "he tried to get out of it by bringing up Shaq's name."

    To me that is the crux of the event. It exposed all of Kobe's flaws: rank immaturity, deceit and cowardice. It caused Daddy the near break up of his marriage and cannot be excused. I suspect Kobe & Daddy had their sit down over this issue and peace was made. At least that is my hope.

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    And life as a Laker fan will continue to be glorious. Odom has seen his best days, which were lackluster at best. Ariza will never set foot on a stage as bright as the one the Lakers blessed.

    This season will go by, and when all the dust settles, Kobe will be holding the LOB, accompanied with the MVP, and you all will be crying foul play, once again, because this is the pathetic life of a Spurs fan, when the Lakers win.

    To a healthy season...

    It's going to be funny when you're nowhere to be found about one year from now.

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    Does anyone seriously believe that Kobe really raped that ? Seriously, she was a who wanted money. Tried to claim rape on a superstar basketball player to simply cash in. I respect Kobe cause his skill can't be ignored. I don't like him cause he's a . This whole rapist is really stupid and has a Spurs fan its really lame to keep seeing it thrown out there.

  23. #48
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    Odom signed with another team?
    Until it's official, people should hold off on there comments. I know a lot of spurs fans are eager to know where
    Odom goes. I guess they don't want a challenge.
    Artest is an upgrade to Ariza and really, whatever was lost when Ariza left, Odom can make up for it.

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    Bryant is extremely fortunate that he retained an attorney that was a junk yard dog, and then made the decisive choice to turn her loose on this Faber girl. Otherwise, it would have been a grim outcome. And supposedly this Mackey girl came this close || to resigning after Kobe insisted on doing that press conference with his wife.

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    This would be a funnier and more convincing article if this guy knew anything about the relationships that these 2 specific players have with Kobe. Ariza and Kobe are like best friends and Kobe has defended Lamar Odom and praised him his entire stay in LA, even when Odom didn't deserve the praise he was getting.

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