Suns 2007 NBA Champions

[Leetonidas]

That's still not 82 games, Genius.

Who the cares? les are not handed out in the regular season bro. The playoffs were still played the same, and the Spurs on the Lakers on their way to a le and 15-1 playoff record. Get over it already. You don't need to be insecure, Laker fan. Your team has like 15 les. Quit crying.

[KidCongo]

That foul call could have given the Cavs their only win in NBA finals history.

I at least thought the Cavs could have won 1 or 2 games in the finals that year against the Spurs, if the Cavs would have had to of faced the Suns well they weren't going to win a game in my mind.

Suns would have won in a sweep, much higher ratings, LeBron wouldn't have averaged <40% shooting, Kobe vs Bron vs Wade etc. debates would have had different takes, Suns fans would trolling would increase, Spur fan could only use "3 ring got".

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Seriously though Jordan would have a few less championships if the Suns had Robinson instead of Kurt Rambis (Gilliam traded for Rambis), it woulda been a of a rivalry from 1996-1998.

[Leetonidas]

Besides we all now Fisher's shot in 2004 was bull . And Manu's foul was bull . And also we would've repeated in 2000 had Duncan not been injured.

So by my count that's 7 RINGS GOTS!!!!

[redzero]

If the Hornets actually played Birdman, maybe they wouldn't have lost against the Spurs in 08.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Suns would have won in a sweep, much higher ratings, LeBron wouldn't have averaged <40% shooting, Kobe vs Bron vs Wade etc. debates would have had different takes, Suns fans would trolling would increase, Spur fan could only use "3 ring got".

One thing 2005-2007 Suns did consistently was take a giant on the Cavs, so yeah that's probably right. Mike Brown got out coached by D'antoni whenever those two teams played.

[mojorizen7]

Suns fans would trolling would increase, Spur fan could only use "3 ring got".

[j-money24]

Also, If it wasn't for Kobe and Shaq's drama, spurs would have been rebuilding by now and only 2 rings got.

[Dex]

You know, really, if it hadn't been for Tim's knee, Kobe and Shaq, .4, Ginobili's Foul, Ginobili's Ankle, and Ginobili's Ankle: The Sequel....then the Spurs would have 11 straight les.

Since fluke les don't count anyways...we should give them to their rightful owners.

Lets give it up to the Spurs, undisputed champions of the 2000 decade.

[mojorizen7]

One thing 2005-2007 Suns did consistently was take a giant on the Cavs, so yeah that's probably right. Mike Brown got out coached by D'antoni whenever those two teams played.

D'Umbtoni outcoached just about everybody from November thru April.
I do agree that the suspension team was the best unit Mad Mike had.
Nash wasn't awful on defense yet(only bad),Bell was still a factor,Amare still played with an at ude, the KT factor etc...

[DAF86]

Also, If it wasn't for Kobe and Shaq's drama, spurs would have been rebuilding by now and only 2 rings got.

Be very thankful that the Shaq/Kobe era got three rings. 'Cause if it wasn't for the refs they wouldn't have.

[j-money24]

If the spurs didn't tank for Duncan, Suns would have probably had like "3 ring gots" posts everywhere on the net.

[iggypop123]

lol at oberto

[Wombatzu]

sad thread is sad...

[mojorizen7]

bump:

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If the spurs didn't tank for Duncan, Suns would have probably had like "3 ring gots" posts everywhere on the net.

I wish the Suns tanked for Duncan. Duncan and Kidd from 1997-2005 would have been a dynasty.

[Thompson]

The only reason the Suns won game 4 in San Antonio was that Duncan was forced to the bench after picking up his 5th foul. At the time the Spurs had a significant lead. After Duncan went to the bench, the Suns magically 'got over the hump' and erased the difference before Duncan came back in at the end of the game. The thing is, 3 of those 5 fouls were bad calls. And it's not just a homer Spurs fan saying that, the announcers on the broadcast said after each of the 3 bad calls 'that was a bad call.'

Even if you ignore that, the 'should have been champion' Suns lost the series 4-2. They couldn't even push it to game 7 when they had everyone and we were still missing Horry (who could still contribute back then). At one point near the end of the game, the announcer said something to the effect of '...the Suns are getting blown out by the Spurs.' Nash went on one of his crazy tears to make the final score more respectable, but the Suns were not the better team. The Suns brass had to think so privately as well, because they reworked their team with the Shaq trade before the next postseason.

Also, the whole Donaghy thing had little bearing on that series. I think he reffed maybe one game, and a host of sports analysts examined the series and could only find 1 call that was questionable in favor of the Spurs (they might even have found a few in the Suns' favor, I can't remember).

As far as the Mavericks are concerned, you can't complain about the officiating in the Finals and then stick your heads in the sand about the officiating in the Spurs-Mavs series. In the games that came down to the wire, we were losing Duncan (Dirk stepped on Duncan's foot/ Duncan called for a block after the ref pointed to the restricted area- nevermind the replay showing Duncan's heel a foot outside the arc) and other key players at the end of games on bad calls. Either Bowen or Ginobili fouled out when Terry jumped backwards into them to 'draw the foul.'

Ginobili is called (as he should have been) for the foul on Dirk at the end of regulation in game 7, but 5 seconds later Duncan is fouled by Dirk under the basket to prevent the dunk without a call. That whole series was atrocious. The end result of overturning all the bad calls in '06 is not a Maverick championship; it is probably a Maverick exit in the 2nd round.

And I know I'll have to make these same arguments for the rest of my life because you people will never win a championship and will be forced to try to create imaginary championships like these.

[baseline bum]

1998 Bavetta waves off Howard Eisley's three with 2 seconds on the shot clock and counts Ron Harper's runner put up after the shot clock expired. Utah Jazz = 1998 real champion. 1 ring, got.

2000 Arvydas Sabonis and Brian Grant called for every ticky-tack foul leading to a parade to the line for Shaq. Then Shaq tackles Steve Smith and has his way with him while the ref looks the other way. Portland Trailblazers = 2000 NBA champions. 2 rings got.

2002 Kobe Bryant elbows Mike Bibby in the face at the end of game 6 and Bibby gets called for the foul. Kobe shoots FTs and game over. Sacramento Kings = 2002 Champs. 2 rings got.

2003 Dirk's vagina squirts on the floor in response to the clinic Sacramento ran on them on their own floor in game 1; Webber slips on it and destroys his knee, crippling the real champs in their repeat bid. 2003 Kings repeat real champs. 3 rings, got.

2004 scorekeeper lets Payton inbound the ball, jerks off all over himself, then finally starts the damn clock just in time for Fisher's shot to still be legal. 2004 Spurs real champs. 2 rings, got.

2005 Rip Hamilton is set, and Horry gets his sixth foul trying to dunk over him. Pistons take a 3-2 lead and win game 6 in San Antonio. 2005 Pistons - 3 rings, got.

2006 Duncan fouls out when Dirk steps on his foot and 2 days later Dirk shoots FTs to force OT when Bowen sneezes on him. Spurs 2006 champs - 3 rings, got.

2007 Nash's nose periods in game 1 and Stoudemire suspended for running to give Raja Bell high-5 for standing up to Horry in game 4. 2007 Suns, 1 ring got.

[crc21209]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkKdXLwt0U&feature=fvw

Dok, bro i think you have the right just like Ghazi to argue that the suns where the best team in 2007 and should have won the Championship....

I think the Suns-Spurs series officiating in 2007 is just as bad as the Heat-Mavericks officiating in 2006.

With all honesty here... 2006 Dallas Mavericks and 2007 Phoenix Suns are the Real Champions

Hi

[Xylus]

As far as talent goes, the Suns were the best team in 2007.

But when the talent that you have makes boneheaded mistakes like leaving the bench, you are no longer the best team. The Spurs had the mental edge, just like they've had the mental edge over us for the last decade, and won the series despite of the odds.

Spurs won the series legitimately. If the Suns were really the best team, we would have won Game 6 even with the suspensions. Bowen hit the corner 3 and Phoenix's balls shriveled up.

[carrao45]

The game was called heavily in SA's favor. But anyone who thinks the league wanted the Spurs to advance instead of Phx is re ed. Phx was the most exciting team in basketball that year. SA was the most boring. SA deserved the 07 le

[Xylus]

Also, I think it's a travesty that the Nash-Marion-Amare-D'Antoni era Suns never won a championship. That team was the most entertaining team basketball has seen in a long time. And they were legitimately good, too, always in the top 3 best teams in the league during their 4-year run.

[Thompson]

Spurs won the series legitimately. If the Suns were really the best team, we would have won Game 6 even with the suspensions. Bowen hit the corner 3 and Phoenix's balls shriveled up.

Minor point, but it was game 5 y'all had the suspensions. Game 6 you had everyone, and we were still missing Horry.

[Buddy Holly]

Yay for hypothetical championships!

They're championships for losers.

[Amaso]

I don't understand why some Spurs fans get so offended by saying the Suns were the better team. The 2007 Spurs were definitely championship worthy, but the Suns were the better team. It's easy to make fun of the loser (Suns) now by saying, "lolol if they were better they would've overcame adversity and won the series". Yeah, the Suns choked a near double digit lead late in game 5, but you got to tip your hat to them for playing undermanned and still competing with a worthy opponent. The Suns offense was so damn efficient, even against the great defense of the Spurs. They would've won the le if you know what didn't happen.