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  1. #226
    He actually only has 3 fights left on his deal and word is he still wants to box Roy Jones JR. He was supposedly at UFC 101. I expect he will want to make that happen when his deal is up and maybe come back to the UFC after.

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    Seeking the quiet mind desflood's Avatar
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    Fickle Fans and Fellow Fighters Turn on Forrest Griffin
    by Kid Nate on Aug 10, 2009 11:58 AM EDT in News 161 comments

    MMA fans might be the harshest and most fickle in the sporting world. There is no better demonstration of the "what have you done for me lately mentality" than the way we have collectively turned on former favorite Forrest Griffin. For an example see the photo shop on the right which has been making the rounds in the BE comments, on the UG and the Sherdog boards.

    Not all of the criticism has been mean or knee-jerk. There are questions about whether he was ever any good to begin with, Zak Woods:

    Is Anderson Silva just that good or have we been inflating Forrest Griffin's status and abilities for some time?

    We always knew that Griffin's chin was not a solid rock nor did he have heavy hands but Forrest had reinvented himself into a tactician. None of that was on display last night.

    For the record Forrest Griffin is now 2-2 in marquee fights at light heavyweight (victories over Quinton Jackson and Mauricio Rua, loses to Anderson Silva and Rashad Evans). If we include the Keith Jardine loss than Griffin slides to 2-3 in fights against top compe ion. All three of those loses come via knockout.

    If we dissect Griffin's victories than they appear to be paper tigers as well. Griffin was the beneficiary of favorable judging against Jackson on top of Quinton's mental issues that became apparent after the fight. In the Shogun bout Rua was fighting on one leg due to an ACL tear and was still able to bloody Griffin though in the end Rua would be submitted in unspectacular fashion.

    And BE reader FlyByKnight declares Forrest's career over in a thoughtful and even-handed piece, that is nonetheless, damning:

    Whether one wants to admit it or not, Forrest Griffin's career is pretty much dead as we know it. His days as that one guy who helped bring millions of fans into the UFC are over. His days as that one guy who had his career slaughtered at the hands of Anderson Silva has begun. There's no shame in losing to Anderson Silva. None whatsoever. But, this loss stands out above all others. In one of the most bizarre, embarrassing, and highlight reel knockouts ever completed, Anderson Silva ended Forrest Griffin's career in essentially the same jaw-dropping fashion that it began. And it, quite simply, is a shame.

    I'm not even going to dignify the pernicious and wide spread chatter from the knuckle dragging set who insist on believing the fight was a work. News flash idiots -- a work benefits the promotion or the bookies. Anderson Silva was a heavy favorite, he was expected to win and the odds accounted for it. There was no killing to be made off Forrest taking a dive. Secondly, from the UFC's perspective it was a disaster and exactly the opposite outcome that they wanted. The fight seriously damaged the brand of one of their marquee fighters to the benefit of one of their worst draws.

    The apparently false reports that he suffered a broken or dislocated jaw seemed to help his cause and many fans embraced that as a life raft for their sinking admiration for Forrest. But with reports surfacing that he suffered no such injury, it's not looking good for Griffin apologists.

    Forrest Griffin is the definitive organization man for the UFC. He is beyond loyal to Dana White and that loyalty is a two-way street. Anderson Silva on the other hand is openly scheming to get out of his UFC obligations as quickly and profitably as possible -- his latest gambit is to drop his middleweight belt and move up to 205lbs permanently, even though he insists he won't fight light heavyweight champ Lyoto Machida. If the UFC falls for this transparent attempt to escape the champion clause of their contracts -- which essentially traps their champs into an auto-renewing contract until they lose the le or retire from MMA -- I'll be shocked.

    In the meantime, Forrest was certainly ill-served on a number of fronts -- by his own terrible game-planning (or failure to implement a game plan), by Joe Silva and Dana White he apparently seriously over-rated his abilities to give Anderson Silva a tough fight, by the fans and most of all by his own antics during the fight when he visibly gave up and charged chin-first into the third and final knockdown and then ran from the cage.

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    ^^

    Damn that's a rough one.

  4. #229
    stick and move dallaskd's Avatar
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    Hendo and Page could give Silva a run. I think GSP's only chance would be to put Anderson on his back as soon as possible. Wouldnt mind seeing Wandy brawl with him either. Other than that, there's not much for him considering he probably wont ever fight Machida.

    I like the gameplan by Kenny, but he wasnt going to take him down and there's not much he could do standing up. IMO BJ won every round. To beat Bj at LW your going to have to beat him on his feet. Not many can do that but Id like to see him take on Aoki, JZ, or Alvarez. IMO he would crush Aoki, because Aoki just isnt strong enough to take him down, but it would be a of a JJ war if he did. Maybe Kawajiri could give him a good fight? I wanna say Mach or Gomi, but they have been lately.

    I think were going to see dominant champions and long le runs in the next few years..

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    Heckler in the Stands anakha's Avatar
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    Anderson Silva on the other hand is openly scheming to get out of his UFC obligations as quickly and profitably as possible -- his latest gambit is to drop his middleweight belt and move up to 205lbs permanently, even though he insists he won't fight light heavyweight champ Lyoto Machida. If the UFC falls for this transparent attempt to escape the champion clause of their contracts -- which essentially traps their champs into an auto-renewing contract until they lose the le or retire from MMA -- I'll be shocked.
    If this is true, then Silva needs to have at least one mandatory defense in his last three matches.

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    stick and move dallaskd's Avatar
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    Well his next fight is Henderson.. that's confirmed.

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    Seeking the quiet mind desflood's Avatar
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    You know, I went to mma core and rewatched Sadollah/Hendricks - and it made the bad stoppage even worse. Hendricks didn't even knock Amir down - Sadollah tripped over his own giant foot and stumbled. He was defeated by his own clumsiness, not his opponent.

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    I disagree...he was rocked and buckled by the uppercut. Otherwise he would've got up instantly instead of sitting there for a couple seconds on his hands and knees. Still a bad stoppage though...

  9. #234
    You know, I went to mma core and rewatched Sadollah/Hendricks - and it made the bad stoppage even worse. Hendricks didn't even knock Amir down - Sadollah tripped over his own giant foot and stumbled. He was defeated by his own clumsiness, not his opponent.
    He was made clumsy by those punches he took to the face. Yes it was an early stoppage but amir didn't help his cause by not covering up at all after getting the snot uppercutted out of him.

  10. #235
    The worst part about the stoppage was that Amir was standing back up when Dan stepped in and stopped it. He wasnt covering up but it was because he had both hands on the mat pushing himself back up to a standing position. I dont like to complain about officiating in any sport but damn that stoppage was terrible any way you look at it.

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    Dan sucks...

    haha


    no wonder Heath ate that first punch...couldn't see!!








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    Dan sucks...

    haha


    no wonder Heath ate that first punch...couldn't see!!








    LMFAO.

    God look at that laundry list of -ups. What is the evaluatoin that goes into these guys by the commision? How is he still reffing big fights??

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    hahahahaha

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    Dan sucks...

    haha


    no wonder Heath ate that first punch...couldn't see!!








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    LOL

    I wonder if the fans booing Anderson had anything to do with him coming out like his hair was on fire??

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    stick and move dallaskd's Avatar
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    what was the first .gif? why did he stop the fight? It looks like Hardy fighting but I cant tell

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    I think it was the end of the round...just another funny/odd moment with big Dan G.

  20. #245
    Kenny Florian interview, he says that "he was told judges had him winning the fight heading into RD 4" WOW. I watched it back twice, and he didn't get a single round. Never came close to finishing a takedown, lost every major striking exchange, judges need to get more on their game in these big fights..




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    Dan sucks...

    haha


    no wonder Heath ate that first punch...couldn't see!!








    hahah WOW!!!

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    Kenny Florian interview, he says that "he was told judges had him winning the fight heading into RD 4" WOW. I watched it back twice, and he didn't get a single round. Never came close to finishing a takedown, lost every major striking exchange, judges need to get more on their game in these big fights..

    He must've heard wrong...

  23. #248
    He must've heard wrong...
    im sure the his corner told him that lol

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