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  1. #226
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    Makes no sense and you are grasping at straws. So anyone who roots for a team that beat the Suns in the playoffs cannot talk.

    Yep, they can't talk. They look re ed. At least Findog cheers for the team Nash used to be on.

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    They won 46 games. What is that, the 4th seed in the East?

    Maybe he can buy himself a trophy for being the best player on the best NBA team to not make the playoffs.

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    Yep, they can't talk. They look re ed. At least Findog cheers for the team Nash used to be on.
    You look foolish right now. You look like an ex girl friend that a guy screwed over.

    hath no furry like a DOK scorned.

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    Hey at least Nash can effectively guard Derek Fisher, in all 4 regular season games last year, I don't think Fish had one good game.

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    By that logic, I could say that no Suns fan could talk because they are so biased against Nash because they watched Championship teams beat the Suns on their way to the le.
    Yep, they can't talk. They look re ed. At least Findog cheers for the team Nash used to be on.

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    Maybe he can buy himself a trophy for being the best player on the best NBA team to not make the playoffs.
    I didn't say he should go out and get a "we won 46 games" trophy. I want to know what's "embarrassing" about winning 46 games. That's not a lottery team, that's a power inbalance between the conferences.

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    Another comprehension fail. I said that he does not have the tools to be good, so it would be wasteful. He is a system player.

    If he was as good as Bowen, then you bet your ass that I would say he should play much more defense.

    If you watched as many Suns games as I have, you would know it's not only about effort. It's about his habit of ballhawking. If he took some plays off when the guy he was guarding just drive by him, it'd be a different story. When he runs around and ball hawks ignoring the fact he's supposed to be guarding someone, it's inexcusable.

    I know Parker and Duncan take plays off a lot, but neither of them ball hawk.

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    You look foolish right now. You look like an ex girl friend that a guy screwed over.

    hath no furry like a DOK scorned.
    DOK is a very good poster except on the subject of Nash. There are many villains responsible for the Suns fall from the elite and Nash is one of them, but to hear DOK tell it, Nash is the only one.

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    And I thought I instigate ...
    So you calling him a ?
    To late to recover.

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    DOK is a very good poster except on the subject of Nash. There are many villains responsible for the Suns fall from the elite and Nash is one of them, but to hear DOK tell it, Nash is the only one.
    I agree.

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    I want to know what's "embarrassing" about winning 46 games.

    The nature of it was embarrassing. When your the starting PG and a large reason why your team didn't win 50+ games is because of the career highs dropped on you all season, it's embarrassing, or at least it should be.

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    DOK is a very good poster except on the subject of Nash. There are many villains responsible for the Suns fall from the elite and Nash is one of them, but to hear DOK tell it, Nash is the only one.

    I agree there were many factors. I try to rotate. Up until a few months ago, I never blamed Nash. Now it's time he pays.

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    DoK, was there a player on the Suns dynasty that played harder than Nash?

    Suns Dynasty?

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    Findog, would you be embarrassed if you were Nash and a season that involved Rondo, Westbrook, Brooks, Mo Williams, and Devin Harris all dropping what was at the time a career high on you?

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    The nature of it was embarrassing. When your the starting PG and a large reason why your team didn't win 50+ games is because of the career highs dropped on you all season, it's embarrassing, or at least it should be.
    What about Shaq's inability/refusal to guard the p'n'r? What about the fact that they brought Porter in with a mandate to win with defense when that's not the kind of personnel they had? D'Antoni made the Shaq experiment work better than Porter could.* What about trading two very good defenders for a very ty one? What about Amare missing the last two months of the season with an eye injury? Lots of reasons the Suns failed to win 50 games, and Nash is one of those reasons, but like I said, you never harp on these other factors.

    * I don't blame Porter for getting fired, he was given his marching orders and tried to follow them, but the personnel they had and then the Richardson trade made his job that much tougher. If they wanted to keep running SSOL, they should've kept D'Antoni.

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    DoK, was there a player on the Suns dynasty that played harder than Nash?
    No, the team was full of people who didn't play hard. Everyone is assuming I only blame Nash, and they're wrong.

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    Findog, would you be embarrassed if you were Nash and a season that involved Rondo, Westbrook, Brooks, Mo Williams, and Devin Harris all dropping what was at the time a career high on you?
    Those are all quick, speedy young guys.

    Here's an example: I have a Tuesday night pickup game I'm in. I'm 31 years old and my game is Battier/Bowen/Prince-like. I pride myself on my ability to check guys. Last week this 20 year old shows up. I'd played against him before and checked him before. He's definitely a good player. This time though, he was on fire. Just destroyed me. I couldn't check him. He was way too quick for me. It was hot and muggy out and as the games wore on, I tired quicker and he didn't. I tried to check him as best as I could, but he just toyed with me and did whatever he wanted. He's got a 20 yr old's joints, stamina and endurance and I have the joints, stamina and endurance of a 31 yr old. I probably would've been better off not expending so much energy checking him and looked for my shot more. It happens. Now I know how Kidd must feel trying to check Paul or TP.

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    What about Shaq's inability/refusal to guard the p'n'r? What about the fact that they brought Porter in with a mandate to win with defense when that's not the kind of personnel they had? D'Antoni made the Shaq experiment work better than Porter could.* What about trading two very good defenders for a very ty one? What about Amare missing the last two months of the season with an eye injury? Lots of reasons the Suns failed to win 50 games, and Nash is one of those reasons, but like I said, you never harp on these other factors.

    * I don't blame Porter for getting fired, he was given his marching orders and tried to follow them, but the personnel they had and then the Richardson trade made his job that much tougher. If they wanted to keep running SSOL, they should've kept D'Antoni.

    Porter is gone, I stopped talking about Porter once he was fired. I'd stop talking about Nash if he was traded.

    You know I blame Amare for plenty.

    The point is, Nash is supposed to be the leader. He's supposed to do whatever he could to make the team the best it could be, and he didn't.

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    Yeah, I don't doubt this at all. Shaq may be the most entertaining person in Sports but he's a total sucker.

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    And furthermore, if Porter was given a two year extension for his performance last year, I'd be kicking and screaming about that.

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    Those are all quick, speedy young guys.

    Here's an example: I have a Tuesday night pickup game I'm in. I'm 31 years old and my game is Battier/Bowen/Prince-like. I pride myself on my ability to check guys. Last week this 20 year old shows up. I'd played against him before and checked him before. He's definitely a good player. This time though, he was on fire. Just destroyed me. I couldn't check him. He was way too quick for me. It was hot and muggy out and as the games wore on, I tired quicker and he didn't. I tried to check him as best as I could, but he just toyed with me and did whatever he wanted. He's got a 20 yr old's joints, stamina and endurance and I have the joints, stamina and endurance of a 31 yr old. I probably would've been better off not expending so much energy checking him and looked for my shot more. It happens. Now I know how Kidd must feel trying to check Paul or TP.
    Again, if Nash ONLY got burnt by quick and speedy guys, I'd see your point.

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    Again, if Nash ONLY got burnt by quick and speedy guys, I'd see your point.
    The only guys you listed as having career highs in your previous posts were quick, speedy guys.

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    Nash is trash. . If he really wanted to do it then he should've done it and not told anyone about it, ESPECIALLY Shaq.

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    The only guys you listed as having career highs in your previous posts were quick, speedy guys.
    Those are career highs, 19 points and 20 assists isn't a career high for Kidd, but if I were Nash I'd still be embarrassed I gave that up.

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    Another example is the 18 point night JJ Barea had on Nash. It's not a career high, but it sure as isn't a number you should be letting JJ Barea get.

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