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    The only thing of interest to GS would be expiring contracts. Maybe Fin and Bonner (which I would doubt) But also could be current draft picks and future as well.

    Jackson would be a great piece of the puzzle for 2 to 3 years to come. But likelyhood is highly improbable.

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    Once again Ducks, when a player comes out and demands to be traded, he puts his team in a terrible position. Especially when he is older and has a long contract.

    So, please answer the question. Name a team that would offer good talent for Jackson? At least as good as Manu. I want names and salaries that match please.

    GS could use a guy like Bonner. He is a decent defender, runs the floor well and is an excellent 3 point shooter. He would be their poor mans Troy Murphy whom they liked.

    You could offer Finley, but that would mean you would have to add a 3rd player if Bonner was the other piece. And as I said before, Mason is more attractive to GS because of talent and age than Bonner. He is not Manu, but is a good coup for Jackson. Not to mention he is expiring.

    So please do not avoid this. Answer the question to back up your claims.
    suns might offer amare if they are afraid he will walk
    and gs is intersted in amare

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    Keep in mind, I am not saying the Spurs want or could get Jackson, or that GS would be willing to trade him.

    I am just saying that more than likely, they would not be able to get a guy like Manu for him.

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    suns might offer amare if they are afraid he will walk
    and gs is intersted in amare
    Why would you think this? Why would the Suns want Jackson over Amare? Not to mention you still would have about 9M in salaries to match from GS, who?

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    because AMARE has said their is a 50-50 chance he will resign with suns

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    That makes no sense. They would rather let him walk and get cap space then trade for an aging player with a long contract.

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    dude this is the suns

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    You have lost.

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    Jackson wouldn't go anywhere if he was guaranteed to start, and Pop wouldn't guarantee starting to anybody coming in.

    Jackson is a stupid head case, like his fight-friend Artest.

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    Dime: You made a big declaration earlier today by saying you wanted out of Golden State. When did you decide this?
    Stephen Jackson: It’s not about a decision I made. It’s just things are in the air right now. I really can’t get too much into it right now, but I’m just looking to go somewhere where I can go and win a championship.

    Dime: Are the Warriors aware of this?
    SJ: Yeah they all know.

    Dime: Is there anywhere specifically you want to go?
    SJ: Either Cleveland, anywhere in Texas or out here with Al in New York.

    http://dimemag.com/2009/08/breaking-...te/#more-18251

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    does sj think james is going to new york or something?

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    well we could always trade richard jefferson for him

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    Bring Jax back

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    This is why I can't ever ever rate Pop higher than Phil. Phil would look at a chemistry issue as a challenge. Pop would rather not deal with it.
    Understanding you have high intelect...go coach an NBA team and see if you can do better than what Pop has done with the Spurs.

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    Jackson is and has always been a role player. He's made a ton of $$$ but is really no better then he was as a Spur. He doesn't make teams better. He provides offense off the bench--period! Mentally, he goes where the $$$ is aka Claxton, Turkelu, etc.! LOSERS! Let him go to the Geldings--they need another headcase.

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    We all know jax wants out, so would you guys do this if Golden State wanted too as well?

    Manu + Bonner + Finley + Fill

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    Jax and Biedris?

    At first I said no, but then looking at our lineup...

    Parker/Hill
    SJax/Mason
    RJ/
    Duncan/Blair/Ratliff
    Biedris/Mcdyess/Ian

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    I'm predicting he's gone by the trade deadline, not so sure if he will actually get to a destination he would like to go.

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    It would be funny if he ended up with the Lakers

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    We all know jax wants out, so would you guys do this if Golden State wanted too as well?

    Manu + Bonner + Finley + Fill

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    Jax and Biedris?

    At first I said no, but then looking at our lineup...

    Parker/Hill
    SJax/Mason
    RJ/
    Duncan/Blair/Ratliff
    Biedris/Mcdyess/Ian

    Silly, why would anyone here want to trade Manu? So stupid... Biedrins doesn't fit into our team. We only really like bigs that can atleast shoot 15ft jumpers with some form of consistency. Biedrins can only score within 5ft of the basket.

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    Well, if we played Manu only 25-30 minutes (about right), and RJ 30-35 (about right), that leaves almost 30 for SJ.

    But I don't know if SJ would really help the team. He would need to be on the floor with either RJ or Manu, and there are only so many touches to go around. He would be the 3rd perimeter scorer on the team, and he is geared for being the number 1 guy. He would also want to be the guy in crunch time, and Manu and Parker already have that job.

    Further, I don't know if he wants to do the dirty work (play great d) that would make him a true benefit to the team.

    With that said, if we could trade Bonner and Mason for him (never happen), it would financially probably work; obviously talent wise GS would never do it, and could do much better...

    I don't think that SJ has much leverage with his team right now. They can tell him to shut up and play.

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    Jackson > Mason

    Sure Jackson is more of a headcase and takes more shots but if hes serious about winning more championships than he knows what is required of him in Pops system. Jax would have to accept that hes a role player with limited shots and primarily used for defensive purposes. Lakers are really long and with Mason in the lineup he makes the advantage for the Lakers even more noticible. Jackson is 6'7'' and can defend Kobe fairly well.

    I say if the offer is on the table you take it. Mason may be a better shooter but Jackson has proven to be the better defender and playmaker. A trade for Jackson would make the Spurs that MUCH better....

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    the numbers work mason,bonner,finley for jackson and we can also throw in a future 1st pick

    and then our bench is full of young future spurs with some veterans and jackson is not that bad of a defender but i dont think he is better than jefferson then defending

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    It would be funny if he ended up with the Lakers
    I would fail to see the humor.

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    S Jax has been proven as a Dirk stopper. R J hasn't been proven as non-stopper.
    rj has not played a minute as a spur
    yet so how could he be a dirk stopper yet

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    Jackson > Mason

    Sure Jackson is more of a headcase and takes more shots but if hes serious about winning more championships than he knows what is required of him in Pops system. Jax would have to accept that hes a role player with limited shots and primarily used for defensive purposes. Lakers are really long and with Mason in the lineup he makes the advantage for the Lakers even more noticible. Jackson is 6'7'' and can defend Kobe fairly well.

    I say if the offer is on the table you take it. Mason may be a better shooter but Jackson has proven to be the better defender and playmaker. A trade for Jackson would make the Spurs that MUCH better....
    chemistry wise NO
    mason shoots better
    and is a better teamate
    and less turnovers

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