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Well you've obviously convinced yourself.
I think his contract is too long. Also, the original decision to let him walk because of his at ude/mental stability was maybe the right decision.
Don't get me wrong in 2003 he came through, and if the Spurs do wind up trading for him I'd be excited for the short term possibility.
Well you've obviously convinced yourself.
Nice opportunity to get rid of Mason and Bonner.
Call me naive, but I dont see any reason why u dont do this deal. Jefferson will be 31 or 32 by the time his contract expires as well, I see this as a 2 yr experiment. I dont think theyll resign him and if they do it will be for much less than what he is currently making. I dont see why people are so concerned about Jax in 3 yrs, he's in his prime right now. Players dont normally go from prime to worthless in 3 yrs, he should still be productive and be more than capable of stepping in if RJ jets. Tony will be re-signed I dont really think there's any question about that.
This might be hypothetical, but than again this whole discussion is so take it as u will.
Is Jax worth almost 8 mil now...Yes. Will he be worth 10 mil 3 years from now?
The Spurs have never been opposed to paying somebody more than they're worth in the past if it meant that player helped them to championships now.
I don't see why they wouldn't if a deal meant:
1) Rid the team of Bonner (and his contract) who won't get much playing time anyway.
2) Bring in a player that can contribute at 2 positions that will be needed. (Regarding Manu's past 2 year history...how can the Spurs be sure he can last an entire season?)
3) The window of opportunity to win is now... not after Duncan and Ginobili are either decrepit or gone.
deepParker/Hill
Jax/Manu
Jefferson/Bowen
Dyess/Blair
Duncan/Ratliff
Damn, that was deep as well. So much depth around here lately.
The one thing that the writer doesn't take into account is Nellie's feelings towards the Mavs. Is he over the entire situation or does he still harbor a grudge? That alone could greatly affect any trade with Dallas.
Just a thought to entertain...
Did everyone forget that his son is the GM for the Mavs. Also, Don Nelson is only the coach of the Warriors. So, it's not solely his decision to make.
Half man, half unamazing
Don Nelson is a coach just like Pop is "just" a coach.
Second, Donny Nelson staying with the Mavs was not without controversy itself. Remember, Dad Nelson was more than too happy to beat the Mavs in the playoffs right after his departure. And I believe there's was (still?) a lawsuit filed against Mark Cuban by Dad Nelson.
So just because Son Nelson is employed by the Mavs, that doesn't mean Dad Nelson is a-okay with it.
Bottom line is....Don Nelson will deal with Pop & the Spurs before he deals with the Devil Cuban and the Mavs.
Much more likely to happen. Don Nelson actually likes Pop and vice versa. And given that the consensus is that the Spurs won't get Jackson, that should tell you all you need to know about Don Nelson and the Mavs.
Holy , people still can't face the fact that Bowen is not coming back.Parker/Hill
Jax/Manu
Jefferson/Bowen
Dyess/Blair
Duncan/Ratliff
+1. He's going to Dallas or going East. The only reason he considers Houston, is they are close to his hometown and he could possibly become the number one option on that team. But they are not a contender, with or without him.
It would be great to see him here, but I doubt it. Any trade combo that leaves out Tim, Tony, Manu, Jefferson, McDyess, Blair, Hill, Mahinmi, I'm happy to part with. I'd even give up Splitter rights. I just can't see it happening.
What part of "Don Nelson hates the Mavs" don't people understand?
Also, Donny Nelson isn't the GM of the Mavs, contrary to popular belief. The Mavs don't have an official GM, according to Mark Cuban that is.
The Spurs let Sjax walk the first time because of his questionable off the court decisions, the people he associated with, and the lifestyle he lived...none of which were up to Spurs standards. Even though he turned in some clutch playoff games, they still chose to let him go for the character reasons....regardless of how it may have been portrayed in the media at the time. IMO his involvement in the Palace Brawl reaffirmed what the Spurs FO saw in him all along.
That being saidNow that hes on the plus side of 30, has matured and managed to stay out of trouble for a few years, I think they have to consider bringing him back, especially if you can package a finley/bonner/mason for him. Its obvious Pop still likes the guy, and if Jax is truly willing to fall in place and serve a role, and only concern himself with winning a 'ship, then i think its a no brainer. His salary is not that bad for what you get in return, and we need someone with his fire and personality to liven things up.
the question is, does the FO still think he is that guy from a few years ago, and if he is do you take the risk now when you wouldnt before? Or do you worry about him going to another contender like Dallas or CLE and make this trade simply to prevent him from helping someone else.
things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
According to this page, Donn Nelson is still the President of Basketball Operations/General Manager of the Mavericks.
http://www.nba.com/mavericks/news/st...ry_010216.html
Business is business. I'm not saying GS is going to give them Jacks like Gasol/Memphis. The price will be high or it won't get done.
Holy , people still can't face the fact that Bowen is not coming back.
Theres still a chance he might....even though Pop denies it right now i think by mid season he will decide to cut a Dleague talent on the roster to bring in a fresh, battle tested Bowen for the end of the season.
The Spurs let Sjax walk the first time because of his questionable off the court decisions, the people he associated with, and the lifestyle he lived...none of which were up to Spurs standards. Even though he turned in some clutch playoff games, they still chose to let him go for the character reasons....regardless of how it may have been portrayed in the media at the time. IMO his involvement in the Palace Brawl reaffirmed what the Spurs FO saw in him all along.
That being said
the question is, does the FO still think he is that guy from a few years ago, and if he is do you take the risk now when you wouldnt before? Or do you worry about him going to another contender like Dallas or CLE and make this trade simply to prevent him from helping someone else.
things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
According to Mark Cuban, as he stated on the Bill Simmons podcast, there are no official les for GM because he feels they don't need them. Straight from his mouth.
It actually was a very interesting podcast, and even though I'm a Spurs fan, I wish basketball fans could see that side of Cuban more. He was smart, interesting, engaging, and generally very likable. The one thing he doesn't understand is that Mark Cuban the fan is a jackass and Mark Cuban the owner needs to reign that in a bit.
This is the best link I could come up with.
http://search.espn.go.com/mark-cuban-bs-report/
Not doubting Cuban would say that, but Donn Nelson is still with the Mavs and is somewhere high in that chain of player recruitment/signing regardless of his le. If Cuban had to deal with Don Nelson/Larry Riley, who do you think he'd send?
You are totally wrong about why the front office "let SJax walk". It was all about money. They offered him a 3 year 10 million dollar contract, but he wanted more. He took a one year deal w/ the Hawks for the about $1,000,000, had a great season and signed a big long term deal w/ Indiana. I remember everyone (including me) talking about what a dumb ass he was for taking $ 1 million over a guaranteed $10 million, but as it turned out he was right on the money (so to speak). They didn't "let him walk" he ran away.The Spurs let Sjax walk the first time because of his questionable off the court decisions, the people he associated with, and the lifestyle he lived...none of which were up to Spurs standards. Even though he turned in some clutch playoff games, they still chose to let him go for the character reasons....regardless of how it may have been portrayed in the media at the time. IMO his involvement in the Palace Brawl reaffirmed what the Spurs FO saw in him all along.
That being said
the question is, does the FO still think he is that guy from a few years ago, and if he is do you take the risk now when you wouldnt before? Or do you worry about him going to another contender like Dallas or CLE and make this trade simply to prevent him from helping someone else.
things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
they let him walk the first time because they didn't want to bid against themselves. they had the largest bid out there to him, by a decent margin, and instead he opted for the short term deal in an attempt to inflate his value (which worked).The Spurs let Sjax walk the first time because of his questionable off the court decisions, the people he associated with, and the lifestyle he lived...none of which were up to Spurs standards. Even though he turned in some clutch playoff games, they still chose to let him go for the character reasons....regardless of how it may have been portrayed in the media at the time. IMO his involvement in the Palace Brawl reaffirmed what the Spurs FO saw in him all along.
That being said
the question is, does the FO still think he is that guy from a few years ago, and if he is do you take the risk now when you wouldnt before? Or do you worry about him going to another contender like Dallas or CLE and make this trade simply to prevent him from helping someone else.
things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
you are full of
short stuff
do you want other people to book it since you can not reach the shelf the book is on
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