Obama Will 'Indoctrinate" your Children!

[jack sommerset]

My kid won't be going to school that day. After they will have a q and a about how great this liar is.

"How does Obama inspire you" My 6 year old does not need to be asked a question that is intended only to have a good answer for someone who does not need any more ego boosting. He will take those "written" answer on his next campiagn mission. He is dirty.

Leave my kid alone Obama. The country did not ask Obama to spend a hour with our kids and then attempt to talk about what a great guy he is.

[clambake]

There, fixed that for you.

you see right through me.

[hope4dopes]

As if the curriculum is free from politics.

You are aware that Government officials address our children all the time, right? You'll see PSA's from Governor JFK-Hair, local politicians, and even Congressmen run in our school A/V material as well as excerpts in textbooks.
Mayors and Senators speak at schools, regularly.

I guess only certain government officials should be excluded, right?
Nah...that's not blind party adherence.

I think people's feelings are, that this regime has acted with unprecedental repressive measures and dishonesty, along with insane attacks on those who dissent. People don't trust them and therefore are weary.
I think it's ridiculous of you to expect a citizenry who've been tarred "swahstika carrying mobs" and "racists" for simply voicing dissent, should trust those who lead this repression to act in good faith.

[coyotes_geek]

There's a differance in allowing teachers to teach what they are paid to teach and having a government official address our children by means of public education in what they feel is needed according to their own political agenda.

I would be opposed to this if this was a republican or democrat president.

Is it any different than government officials telling teachers what they are paid to teach? Evolution for example? Don't get me wrong, I'm with you in the sense that it would be 100% inappropriate for Obama to turn his speech into something encouraging children to follow his political agenda. But let's not lose sight of the fact that politicians are already deeply involved in what goes on in the classroom.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I've seen parents pull their kids from school FOR ONLY ONE DAY for far less reasons. Trust me...I've been sending children to school for over 24 years and have several more years of doing so left.

And I do allow my children to freely choose their decisions. I'm just not a proponent of having government using a public forum telling my children what they should or should not think. Again...if the speach is only about the importance of education...my child will see that speach at a later time.

Tell you what...let Obama do what he promised to do when running for election...post on the internet any bill or speach he may be proposing or making 24 hours prior to the act so we as Americans can decide for ourselves.

Let's agree that all politicians should live up to their promises. If someone you support hasn't lived up to all their campaign promises then you should expect the same from them as you do the president. Fair?

[hope4dopes]

[QUOTE=TeyshaBlue;3667029]I wasn't aware that GGA was advocating replacing parents. Straw-man much?[/QUOTE
I wasn't speaking with you, I was wondering about a statement george made.

[clambake]

My kid won't be going to school that day. After they will have a q and a about how great this liar is.

"How does Obama inspire you" My 6 year old does not need to be asked a question that is intended only to have a good answer for someone who does not need any more ego boosting. He will take those "written" answer on his next campiagn mission. He is dirty.

Leave my kid alone Obama. The country did not ask Obama to spend a hour with our kids and then attempt to talk about what a great guy he is.

why should you worry? if the teachers don't share your opinion about obama....then you should remove them, permenantly, from that school.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I think people's feelings are, that this regime has acted with unprecedental repressive measures and dishonesty, along with insane attacks on those who dissent. People don't trust them and therefore are weary.
I think it's ridiculous of you to expect a citizenry who've been tarred "swahstika carrying mobs" and "racists" for simply voicing dissent, should trust those who lead this repression to act in good faith.

[TeyshaBlue]

I think people's feelings are, that this regime has acted with unprecedental repressive measures and dishonesty, along with insane attacks on those who dissent. People don't trust them and therefore are weary.
I think it's ridiculous of you to expect a citizenry who've been tarred "swahstika carrying mobs" and "racists" for simply voicing dissent, should trust those who lead this repression to act in good faith.

I have even more trust in my kid's ability to detect bull and my ability to discuss it with him....it's really not difficult and I'm hardly unique.
I've, apparently without even knowing it, been tarred as a "Swashtika carrying mob" and a "racist". Dude, enough with the herd-think. If you act like a mob, I guess you'll be included with mobs. If you repeat mob bumperstickers, guess what?

[ploto]

I don't know of any time my children were forced to watch any message a president was commuting.

You did not bother to notice because it was your guy Bush making the address, and his opponents were not crazy enough to suggest that school kids should not listen to the president speak specifically to them about the importance of education.

[TeyshaBlue]

[QUOTE=hope4dopes;3667055]

I wasn't aware that GGA was advocating replacing parents. Straw-man much?[/QUOTE
I wasn't speaking with you, I was wondering about a statement george made.

I'm speaking with you...and anybody else who can read.

[rjv]

schools are just a microcosm of the real world, so as CG pointed out already, might as well have the kids realize politics is everywhere.

[George Gervin's Afro]

So who do you intend to replace the parents with???????????the state?

No I think it's brilliant to expose your children to entertainers to get their news. Never exposing your kids to an opposing opinion should do them well when they happen upon someone they may disagree with (see the attack mobs at the townhall meetings).

[hater]

schools are just a microcosm of the real world,

say what???

[SpurNation]

As if the curriculum is free from politics.

You are aware that Government officials address our children all the time, right? You'll see PSA's from Governor JFK-Hair, local politicians, and even Congressmen run in our school A/V material as well as excerpts in textbooks.
Mayors and Senators speak at schools, regularly.

I guess only certain government officials should be excluded, right?
Nah...that's not blind party adherence.

I'm not a member of any party adherence. Maybe that's what makes me...

But to accuse me of being a bad parent by some after seeing my children grow to achieve Master's degrees, become Manager's of business, Teaching Certifications, Scholarships to College, and one currently excelling at their preferred sport is ludicrus.

Oh whoa are my children for having a parent that cares enough about them to allow them to make their own decision after I their parent helps guide them to making conscience decisions.

Yep...that's my kids alright...a detriment to society....

I've got a question...why is it important to take up the time of an entire nation through public education to discuss the importance of education when most of the children there already know the importance of education because they are already being taught this by their parents and teachers?

Shouldn't the one's that are not in school be the one's being addressed?

And shouldn't addressing our economy be top priority of our president at this time?

That's what I taught my children. Address that which needs addressing first.

[jack sommerset]

why should you worry? if the teachers don't share your opinion about obama....then you should remove them, permenantly, from that school.

I'm not worreid. She is not going. This is a public school. I shouldn't have to remove her because some elected officials wants to sell a six year old a bunch of his bull . One thing so many americans do agree on is all politicians are corrupt is some way or fashion. You point out what a liar Obama is, someone will point out the samething Bush does. Leave our kids out of it. This guy has zero of my consent to speak to my kid. leave the politics for the adults.

I read these questions on another site. I think D magazine.

"Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?What is the President asking me to do?What specific job is he asking me to do? Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?"

[coyotes_geek]

say what???

It made sense to me. In the real world we're forced to sort through all the information we receive, knowing full well that all of it contains some level of bias. Same thing at the school level.

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm not a member of any party adherence. Maybe that's what makes me...

But to accuse me of being a bad parent by some after seeing my children grow to achieve Master's degrees, become Manager's of business, Teaching Certifications, Scholarships to College, and one currently excelling at their preferred sport is ludicrus.

Oh whoa are my children for having a parent that cares enough about them to allow them to make their own decision after I their parent helps guide them to making conscience decisions.

Yep...that's my kids alright...a detriment to society....

I've got a question...why is it important to take up the time of an entire nation through public education to discuss the importance of education when most of the children there already know the importance of education because they are already being taught this by their parents and teachers?

Shouldn't the one's that are not in school be the one's being addressed?

And shouldn't addressing our economy be top priority of our president at this time?

That's what I taught my children. Address that which needs addressing first.

ROFL...take a moment and re-read my post. I didn't call you a bad parent. I thought what you are doing is stupid, but it takes alot of stupidity to create a bad parent...not just one topic on a discussion board. Put down that ing hammer already and apply just a tiny amount of critical thought.

We're not taking up the time of an entire nation (WTF!?). If they were convinced of the importance of education, they probably wouldn't drop out later. It's call proactive. You try to get to them before they drop out...not after.

[clambake]

I'm not worreid. She is not going. This is a public school. I shouldn't have to remove her because some elected officials wants to sell a six year old a bunch of his bull . One thing so many americans do agree on is all politicians are corrupt is some way or fashion. You point out what a liar Obama is, someone will point out the samething Bush does. Leave our kids out of it. This guy has zero of my consent to speak to my kid. leave the politics for the adults.

I read these questions on another site. I think D magazine.

"Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?What is the President asking me to do?What specific job is he asking me to do? Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?"

you are making a terrible mistake. if these teachers are obama fans, they're gonna really turn the screws on your kid.

i don't think you can afford to take the chance, here.

you should remove her immediately and home school her delicate little ass.

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm not worreid. She is not going. This is a public school. I shouldn't have to remove her because some elected officials wants to sell a six year old a bunch of his bull . One thing so many americans do agree on is all politicians are corrupt is some way or fashion. You point out what a liar Obama is, someone will point out the samething Bush does. Leave our kids out of it. This guy has zero of my consent to speak to my kid. leave the politics for the adults.

I read these questions on another site. I think D magazine.

"Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?What is the President asking me to do?What specific job is he asking me to do? Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?"

How do you know what President Obama is going to say is bull ? Are you just going to make that assumption and run with it?

[hope4dopes]

I have even more trust in my kid's ability to detect bull and my ability to discuss it with him....it's really not difficult and I'm hardly unique.
I've, apparently without even knowing it, been tarred as a "Swashticka carrying mob" and a "racist". Dude, enough with the herd-think. If you act like a mob, I guess you'll be included with mobs. If you repeat mob bumperstickers, guess what?

I guess you missed Pelosi,well no matter you've adopted her rhetoric with the herd thing
Let's all lower our voices and put our hands in our laps because,. what you think you see is not really true.....cause your to stupid, and to much of a dumb to decide these things for yourselves.
Now we got us hear is real smart feller whose gonna put all you dumb rednecks on track.You have faith in your kids ability to detect bull ..huh well why don't you try and wrap your head around the idea that there are lots and lots of people out there that are at least as smart as your kid, and the think they are detecting some bull comeing out of Obama
What's so hard for you to grasp people don't trust the jerk,hey it may be just political grandstanding, it may desire to teach the young, whatever but it boils down to people don't trust the guy, and from every thing I've seen they're at least as smart as you.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I'm not worreid. She is not going. This is a public school. I shouldn't have to remove her because some elected officials wants to sell a six year old a bunch of his bull . One thing so many americans do agree on is all politicians are corrupt is some way or fashion. You point out what a liar Obama is, someone will point out the samething Bush does. Leave our kids out of it. This guy has zero of my consent to speak to my kid. leave the politics for the adults.

I read these questions on another site. I think D magazine.

"Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?What is the President asking me to do?What specific job is he asking me to do? Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?"

yes. it's a conspiracy and we are all in on it!

[SpurNation]

Let's agree that all politicians should live up to their promises. If someone you support hasn't lived up to all their campaign promises then you should expect the same from them as you do the president. Fair?

Fair!

Is it any different than government officials telling teachers what they are paid to teach? Evolution for example? Don't get me wrong, I'm with you in the sense that it would be 100% inappropriate for Obama to turn his speech into something encouraging children to follow his political agenda. But let's not lose sight of the fact that politicians are already deeply involved in what goes on in the classroom.

Agreed. But is it wrong for me to want to see his speach first before allowing my child to be subjected to what could turn out to be a political objective?

[jack sommerset]

How do you know what President Obama is going to say is bull ? Are you just going to make that assumption and run with it?

I am already running with it. Half of what comes out of his mouth is a lie. I don't want him to lecture my kid. LOL What gives him the right? He has none.

[coyotes_geek]

Agreed. But is it wrong for me to want to see his speach first before allowing my child to be subjected to what could turn out to be a political objective?

Wrong? No.

An overreaction on your part? Respectfully, in my humble opinion, yes.