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    Anyone remember Charles "Chas" Freeman?

    This isn't the first Obama nut to go down over their -- let's, shall we, say -- extreme political views.

    At some point someone needs to ask how much of the views of Obama's appointees are in line with his own. And, if the mainstream media won't do it, thank God for Glenn Beck and The Gateway Pundit.

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    Beck apparently has a list Magic Negro's appointees that he's going after next.

    McCarthyism all over again. And we have McCarthy-ites right here in the forum.
    Its not a witch hunt when there are actual witches. And Glenn Beck is no senator.

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    The Washington Post profiles Van Jones

    Not quite a month ago, the Washington Post published Lois Romano's admiring profile of the former Obama administration green jobs commissar Van Jones. Romano takes the green jobs con straight while conceding the difficulty of selling the concept. In light of the recent revelations about Jones, one might say that Romano missed virtually everything of interest about this Marxist nutjob.

    Despite the limitations of her profile, Romano made one interesting observation:

    His career path was not unlike President Obama's. After graduating from Yale Law School, Jones worked as a community activist in Oakland, Calif., and founded the Ella Barker Center for Human Rights. A few years ago, he saw an opportunity to combine his commitment to racial and economic parity with work to solve the environmental crisis. He soon became a hero of the green movement as he talked about "greening the ghetto," appearing on hip shows such as "The Colbert Report" and sending out his message on YouTube.
    Romano's statement that Jones "saw an opportunity to combine his commitment to racial and economic parity with work to solve the environmental crisis," with its subscription to the party line implicit in Jones's presentation of himself, is almost comic in in its cluelessness. Almost.

    Try to count the axioms planted in that sentence, which could fairly be translated as "Jones saw how he might combine his racial hustle with his Marxist claptrap to seize on purported concern for the environment as the path to power."

    I don't suppose that Romano will be revisiting the observation that Jones's career path was not unlike President Obama's any time soon.

    The transcript of Romano's interview with Jones is posted here, the video here. The video displays the chummy air between Romano and Jones. It explains a lot.

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    You won't fnd many posts defending obama's policies rather you will find me defending the baseless, petty and immature attacks by the likes of you. You're to stupid to realize that because you suffer as a grave case of obama derangement syndrome.. I know your job is make sure he fails..we get it.. What is the next on the Fox New/Sean Hannity/ Rush Limbauigh schedule to attack? Wait for your orders brave keyboard GI..be brave and hide.


    ummm, yeah. Yeah sure. Whatever you say, buddy.

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    ummm, yeah. Yeah sure. Whatever you say, buddy.
    No . The (georgie) actually said you won't find many post defending Obama! God, he just spews out .

    Looks like Darrin S found his answer to the thread topic.

    I am still shocked he resigned. He was doing a outstanding job from no ones account! Quitting on Labor Day doesn't sound very American. Neither does communism.

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    Who is under the bus

    Van Jones became the first Van to go under the bus. But he is not the first man to go under the bus.

    Remember?

    Madelyn Dunham. He loved his grandma, but sometimes she said things about other races that made little Barry cringe. Under the bus, grandma.

    The Rev. Jeremiah Wright. He could no more disown him than he could disown grandma. And he just disowned grandma.

    Bill Ayers. Just some guy in the neighborhood. Thanks for arranging that first fund-raiser, writing one of my autobiographies, and giving me my first community organizing job. He’ll have to do that whole education conference again sometime real soon, say, 2027.

    Tony Rezko. Thanks for the house. Now have fun in the Big House. Keep quiet and there may be a Marc Rich-type pardon. I mean, Eric Holder is the attorney general.

    Nadhmi Auchi. Thanks for arranging that mortgage for the house. Hanging out with Iraqi billionaires ain’t cool.

    Hillary Clinton learned that the main job of the secretary of state in this administration is drive train inspections.

    Louis Caldera. Thanks for taking the fall for that Air Force One buzzing of New York City. Getting 1 million people to soil themselves is quite a feat. Say o to Bill Ayers.

    Ellen Moran. Lateral promotion from the White House communications office to writing press releases for the Commerce Department.

    Tom Daschle. Only one tax cheat per Cabinet and Tim Geithner got there first.

    Politico has a few more. Buckle up, it is going to be a bumpy ride with all those people in the undercarriage.

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    No . The (georgie) actually said you won't find many post defending Obama! God, he just spews out .

    Looks like Darrin S found his answer to the thread topic.

    I am still shocked he resigned. He was doing a outstanding job from no ones account! Quitting on Labor Day doesn't sound very American. Neither does communism.
    hey go find where I support his policies.. I figure I have had 300 or 400 posts since he's been president couldn't you find a few? Save your energy because you won't... you lose again jack.. can you read?

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    A Van Jones Postscript

    The defining accomplishment of Van Jones's life was his founding of the Ella Baker Freedom Center. While the controversy over his appointment was going on I meant to look into who she was, but didn't get it done. Ron Radosh, an expert on the hard left of which he was once a member, has the answer:

    [T]he name of Jones' Oakland group, The Ella Baker Freedom Center, is most appropriate. Most people have referred to the late Baker as simply a civil rights activist. I am writing from vacation in Nantucket, without benefit of my files at home. But in my book, Divided They Fell: The Demise of the Democratic Party, 1964-1996, I point out that the late civil rights lawyer Joe Rauh had noted that everything Baker said in the 60's might as well have been taken verbatim from The Daily Worker, the Communist Party newspaper. Baker was so pro-Communist that she attacked Hubert Humphrey and other liberal anti-Communists as ultra reactionaries. Known as the "grandmother of SNCC," Baker was aligned with those in the movement who were trying to push the organization to the far left.
    I think that sums up the Obama administration pretty well. If you think Hubert Humphrey was an ultra-reactionary, this administration's for you!

    UPDATE: At The Corner, Andy McCarthy takes Charles Krauthammer to task for suggesting that the demise of the Soviet Union means that Communism is no longer a threat. Andy's post is well worth reading in its entirety, but this paragraph fits well with the topic of this post:

    The Jones incident, moreover, does not indicate that "we had a communist in the U.S. government." [Quoting Krauthammer.] To the contrary, as I argued last night, we have a U.S. government in which Van Jones was quite consciously selected because his views are representative of the president who made him the "green jobs czar." Van Jones isn't Alger Hiss. There's nothing covert about him. He didn't snooker Obama into bringing him aboard. He is who he is, and that's why Obama wanted him. Having a Communist in that job was perfect since the "green jobs" initiative is an important part of the hard Left's agenda to use environmentalism as an additional justification for usurping command of the economy.
    "Van Jones isn't Alger Hiss." Brilliant.

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    "Jones had not carefully reviewed the language in the pe ion before signing, an administration source said last week"


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    "language in the pe ion"

    what's wrong with it?

    Why won't the govt open up the files of what dubya/ head/connie/rummy/nsa/cia/fbi were ing doing about terrorism from 1/20 to 9/11? why?

    9/11 happened on the Repugs' watch, the Repugs are fully responsible for not stopping it.

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    Most brazen extra-cons utional act? I would think Nixon would have that one locked up. Or FDR's jailing of Japanese citizens. Or Lincoln suspending habeas corpus.

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    I mean, previous administrations had czars as well. Are board conservatives upset because Obama has a few more than other Presidents? It's a matter of DEGREE, is it?

    And these are the same people who argue that it couldn't be torture to deprive people of sleep, or lower their body temperature, or put them in a stressed position for extended periods of time?

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    Obligatory Note: I haven't really read up on the Jones thing, and the above posting does not show support or lack thereof for anyone or anything.

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    I mean, previous administrations had czars as well. Are board conservatives upset because Obama has a few more than other Presidents? It's a matter of DEGREE, is it?

    And these are the same people who argue that it couldn't be torture to deprive people of sleep, or lower their body temperature, or put them in a stressed position for extended periods of time?
    Of course not. They only care because it's a democrat..

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    I'll let jackasses worry about the R and D. That is all. Have fun with that.

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    I'll let jackasses worry about the R and D. That is all. Have fun with that.
    I don't blame you for ducking it!

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    I'll let jackasses worry about the R and D. That is all. Have fun with that.
    So, when you said

    For all the caterwauling you people did about President Bush's end-runs around the cons ution, this governing with czars has to be the most brazen extra-cons utional act by any president in modern history.
    and

    No, I'm pointing out that Obama has done an end-around on many of the administrative roles normally handled by cabinet-level appointees that must face Senate confirmation by appointing all these unaccountable czars.
    ... you're really complaining about not just Obama but...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_branch_czars

    FDR: 12
    Truman: 6
    Esienhower: 1
    JFK: 1
    LBJ: 2
    Nixon: 2
    Ford: 1
    Carter: 2
    Reagan: 1
    GHW Bush: 2
    Clinton: 6
    GW Bush: 35
    Obama: 32

    Just keeping you honest Viva.

    Edit: I'm stupid, sorry Viva. That should have been directed to Yoni, as he was the one who made those claims.
    Last edited by LnGrrrR; 09-08-2009 at 11:59 AM.

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    So, when you said



    and



    ... you're really complaining about not just Obama but...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_branch_czars

    FDR: 12
    Truman: 6
    Esienhower: 1
    JFK: 1
    LBJ: 2
    Nixon: 2
    Ford: 1
    Carter: 2
    Reagan: 1
    GHW Bush: 2
    Clinton: 6
    GW Bush: 35
    Obama: 32

    Just keeping you honest Viva.
    He's not honest.

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    You're confusing Yoni and Viva. They have the same thought process... but I'm pretty sure they're different en ies.

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    oops. hit quote when i meant to hit edit.

    DP

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    It's funny how history repeats itself. It looks like Obama is going to take the full arsenal for these first years. As soon as election time comes around in 2012, I have a feeling he's going to go offensive, in Stalingrad-like pivotal fashion

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    You're confusing Yoni and Viva. They have the same thought process... but I'm pretty sure they're different en ies.
    Ah! My fault. Mea culpa, Viva! I will redirect that question to Yoni. Unless Viva wants to take it up.

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    Well... you could take him to task about claiming to be indifferent to the D and R, while he himself is one of the most partisan and bitter posters in this forum.

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    So, when you said



    and



    ... you're really complaining about not just Obama but...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_branch_czars

    FDR: 12
    Truman: 6
    Esienhower: 1
    JFK: 1
    LBJ: 2
    Nixon: 2
    Ford: 1
    Carter: 2
    Reagan: 1
    GHW Bush: 2
    Clinton: 6
    GW Bush: 35
    Obama: 32

    Just keeping you honest Viva.
    Thanks. I don't see how it's keeping me honest though. Did I deny how many bush 43 had? Bueller? I knew he had czars. Didn't know he had that many and Obama has more than 32. Does your number include the one that was appointed yesterday? Huh, honest one? If you're worried about any injustice than please present me with bush 43 czars and their mis speakings. I'll be right here waiting.

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    Well... you could take him to task about claiming to be indifferent to the D and R, while he himself is one of the most partisan and bitter posters in this forum.
    Ah yes. I distinctly remember our chat letting you know all of my political views. I am busted. Keep up the good work. You must be getting an A in Assume 101.

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