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    By failing to inform the public of critical information over which they should form their opinions.
    So then, Jimmy Carter, when expressing his personal opinion about a public controversy, owes it to the public to also state all other information germane to the debate, or he's stifling speech?

    How absurd.

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    So then, Jimmy Carter, when expressing his personal opinion about a public controversy, owes it to the public to also state all other information germane to the debate, or he's stifling speech?

    How absurd.
    No, the media reporting Jimmy Carter's opinion does.

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    Bull . People are responsible for informing themselves and thinking for themselves. So much the worse for them if they rely on the media to spoon feed them everything needful.

    Media coverage will always be partial. Your canon of comprehensiveness is bullcrap. Nobody ever lives up to it.

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    Bull . People are responsible for informing themselves and thinking for themselves. So much the worse for them if they rely on the media to spoon feed them everything needful.
    If the media omits information, where am I to get it?

    Media coverage will always be partial. Your canon of comprehensiveness is bullcrap. Nobody ever lives up to it.
    That's a sad statement on your expectations of the media.

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    This is great. I hope it keeps up. People are sick of race baiters like Gates and Carter.

    These guys are hanging themselves...give 'em all the rope they want I say.

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    That's a sad statement on your expectations of the media.
    Your own are unrealistic, and I think you know it.

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    Your own are unrealistic, and I think you know it.
    My source told both sides. They lived up to my expectations.

    Most of my sources tell both sides even if they then set about to discredit the side with which they disagree. And, if I think they aren't, I seek out the other side of the argument.

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    By failing to inform the public of critical information over which they should form their opinions.
    Like your blogs' never divulging the number of czars in the Bush administration for comparison after telling you to be upset by the number of czars in the Obama administration.

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    Those that impute race into two word, "You lie," should look at their own racial biases. And, they only do it because the American public isn't as incensed over the break in decorum as they'd hoped. Had to find something to about.

    This has been a clever campaign by the Democrats to color this outburst as a racial matter. I hope Joe Wilson hits the House floor, wears the rebuke as a badge of honor, and calls the president a liar again.

    Saying people oppose this president because he's black is paranoid...

    I predict we'll all be racists for fifteen minutes.


    he is a ing racist and that allowed him to be disrespectful.....end of story.

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    Carter has a point. It's the first time this happened in a Congressional meeting. Why did the Congressman from the south feel compelled to call the Pres a liar in such a public way? It could certainly be 'based on racism'. It's not really an outrageous or a far fetched observation.

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    Most of my sources tell both sides even if they then set about to discredit the side with which they disagree. And, if I think they aren't, I seek out the other side of the argument.
    Bull , Yoni. You're trying to universalize from the particular. No one familiar with you will be fooled.

    Your SOP is to seek out sources that conform to your prejudgment, then to belittle them as flawed if they do not include your view. Your relentless reposting of of right-wing blogs gives you away. If all you cared about was journalistic competence, you'd see a little more variety in your posts.

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    Carter has a point. It's the first time this happened in a Congressional meeting. Why did the Congressman from the south feel compelled to call the Pres a liar in such a public way? It could certainly be 'based on racism'. It's not really an outrageous or a far fetched observation.
    Please tell me this is sarcasm - you don't really believe this do you? How old are you?

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    Jimmy Carter is a disgrace.

    The downside of having a black president is that honest dissent becomes racism in the eyes of his bullying sycophants.

    Yes, that's right, saying "you lie" is honest dissent. Inappropriate? Yes. But racist? Come on.

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    I agree, doobs. But Jimmy Carter is just as en led to voice his opinion as Joe Wilson.

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    Carter's opinion carries a LOT of weight.

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    My point exactly. Carter's private opinion doesn't amount to much. Who takes their marching orders from ex-presidents?

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    Who takes their marching orders from ex-presidents?
    Evidently a bunch of school kids in Arlington were about to..............

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    Have any other irrelevant political figures weighed in?

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    I agree, doobs. But Jimmy Carter is just as en led to voice his opinion as Joe Wilson.
    Yes, but so what? He's still a disgrace.

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    Evidently a bunch of school kids in Arlington were about to..............
    i believe the kids in arlington will never be allowed to decide.

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    I agree, doobs. But Jimmy Carter is just as en led to voice his opinion as Joe Wilson.
    This sums up the whole argument.

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    In other Jimmy Carter news ....



    Jimmy Carter's book "Palestine: Peace not Apartheid" is endorsed by Osama bin Laden.

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/200...for-americans/


    I think he's going to start a book club, like Oprah.


    Oh ! That must be racist because Oprah is black!

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    In other Jimmy Carter news ....



    Jimmy Carter's book "Palestine: Peace not Apartheid" is endorsed by Osama bin Laden.

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/200...for-americans/


    I think he's going to start a book club, like Oprah.


    Oh ! That must be racist because Oprah is black!
    so....darrins...are you saying you don't like america's creation?

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    I'm all for the destruction of our economy, as long as it's done by a white person.



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    I'm all for the destruction of our economy, as long as it's done by a white person.


    grab your boss and bring him in here. let's ask his/her opinion on all your positions.

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