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I agree with that. Before the RJ trade I wanted to see Mason Jr traded but with RJ on the team Mason Jr we'll need to be only Mason Jr and then he'll be fine
Barring any kind of situation where we move Finley, I think its safe to say we are ready to head into the season. Let's do this.
I agree with that. Before the RJ trade I wanted to see Mason Jr traded but with RJ on the team Mason Jr we'll need to be only Mason Jr and then he'll be fine
I said nothing like that.
If the Spurs can pull it off I'm all for it. But realistically the bar at what you can expect to get back from a Finley/Bonner package is going to be pretty low. It's going to be a guy making $5+ mil a year who has multiple years left on his contract and whose previous team is content to give away for pretty much nothing.
I forget, is Haislip guaranteed?
If we can get back a piece for Roger Mason like Andres Nocioni. You do it.
Andres Nocioni may not shoot 42 percent but he shoots in the high 30's. Nocioni rebounds better, defends better, can create off the dribble better, has more length to contest shots, has a higher BB IQ, all those things make Nocioni a no brainer for Mason.
Mason's role will be to play 20-23 minutes a game and shoot open threes. He brings nothing else on the other end.
Moving RJ to the 2 and having Nocioni at the 3>> RJ at the 3 and Mason at the 2. IMO
Mason can be replaced but it has to be for the right price.
Yes. For the first year I believe.
thats cool any suggestions?
Indeed you are.Damn I'm good.
Agree, although won't Finley be kept for injury insurance?
With Bonner's role duplicated by Haislp, and now Bogans freeing up Finley, those guys have become even more expendable by the deadline. We may be able to pick up a nice player for $5.75mil +/-.
As for Bogans, he's very solid - good defender, hits the 3, happy to play a role. Yet another hit to add to the home runs that were Jefferson and Blair, and the triple that was Dice.
Best off-season in recent Spurs history.
2007-08 season: The poor man's Bruce Bowen, Bogans is clearly modeling himself on the shoot-3s-and-defend blueprint created by San Antonio's veteran stopper. More than two-thirds of his shot attempts were 3-pointers, and that was about all he did offensively -- Bogans had the fourth-lowest usage rate among shooting guards and the sixth-lowest turnover ratio.
He handled his offensive role fairly well, hitting 36.2 percent of his 3-pointers, and threw in a nice surprise with the low turnover ratio -- he cut it nearly in half from the previous season, largely a result of removing ill-fated drives from his offensive repertoire. He filled his defensive role reasonably well too -- Orlando gave up 2.4 fewer points per 48 minutes with him on the court, and he got his foul rate under control after hacking like crazy a year earlier.
Scouting report: Bogans is 6-5 and a decent ball handler, but lacks the jets to get to the rim and the skill to finish once he arrives. As a result, he does nearly all his damage as a spot-up shooter, and in recent years he's embraced this role and stopped trying to be a scorer.
Bogans is a tough-minded defender who plays physical and has decent quickness, but he's not quick or springy enough to be in the elite category; short arms also hurt him on close-outs. He's a stay-at-home guy with low rates of blocks and steals, but has value as a specialist because he'll make his man work for his points and is a quiet sniper at the offensive end.
2008-09 outlook: The arrival of Mickael Pietrus and Courtney Lee is certainly a threat to Bogans' minutes, but chances are he inherits a major role off the bench as the primary wing reserve. He probably won't match last season's 26.9 minutes a game, a number inflated by his heavy minutes prior to the Mo Evans trade, and that will hurt his per-game averages. But he's been very consistent year-to-year in shooting percentage and PER, and he should continue at that level for the foreseeable future.
Most similar at age: voshon lenard
Quick Question...Wasnt Pop working Hill to become the "lock down" guy. I remember him playing D against Kobe in one Laker game but since hes a bit small he didnt do so well
Not true, Kobe didn't get to the rim once while GHill was guarding him. You cant stop kobe, you just want to take away his high % looks, Hill did that. Kobe beat the spurs with jump shots, one was a deep corner 3.
There's your answer.
Against other point guards, and smaller 2's maybe.
i like it. he can shoot the 3 too.
Bogans, Williams/Hairston, Finley, Bonner picks whatever for Nocioni would negate the need for a shot blocker. Even if it takes Money Mase, that is one heck of a "world class" pick up (anyone that has seen Noc play with Manu will agree.)
That would be SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK.
SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ing sick.
Therefore, I feel like it's impossible for us to pull it off.
He shot 44% from the field AND from 3pt last season.
We should not trade Mason and Finley together for Camby. While giving us most likely the BEST defensive bigs in the game (including my main man Blairzilla) it really would take some ability to spread the offense for Tony of our backcourt. It might work if we had Barry back from 2 years ago to play his 5-10 minutes a game.
We are not sitting bad as we are.
No, not at all. Not at all.
If Spurs trade Finley and Bonner they can get D. Diop from the bobcats. Diop's Contract is 6million for 3 years. I dont like that but I do like that he is 7-0 tall and can block shots. He is also big size-wise and can still move well to defend the Pick N Roll. Downside is ofcourse the 3 year contract and that he doesn't have an offensive game. However we need that Size to compete with the Lakers and a guy like him might be the answer starting next Tim for 20 mins a game and Having Mcdyess take care of the rest.
26.8M for 4 yrs
Course, I'd trade one of my balls for SJax.
Solid move. This probably makes Finley expendable. If not, then this is definitely not looking good for either Hairston or Williams.
Marginally better than some younger players with more upside and size???
At 6'5" he's not gonna guard many SFs.
Hairston SHOULD definitely be better than Bogans in at least a year or 2, he clearly has better tools..I don't know if he would be a better option right now though..a guy like Malik with that role at this stage is dangerous, since he's inexperienced, and he won't get any respect from the refs..
Bogans obviously has experience, since he's been used as a defensive stopper for years now..he's also a veteran, so he'll obviously get more respect from the refs..
HarlemHeat37 brings up a good point about being a veteran and getting respect from the refs. That's important. Not that Hairston would have been in the playoff rotation, but in the event the Spurs need another defensive minded wing to guard Bryant, Roy, etc., it's better to have a veteran fulfilling that role.
Bogans may not be all that much better than Hairston right now, but at least in his case you know what you're going to get. Like I said though, I'd like to see Hairston kept in the pipeline in the form of another year on the Toros, before being given a legit chance to stick full time next year.
Bogans is a strong 6'5'' though, like Udoka. Udoka is 220, Bogans is 215. He'll primarily spend his time guarding high scoring wings period, whether it's at SG or SF.
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