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    I don't see why some think they have to dump Finley just to save money. They seem committed to paying this year if it makes the team better. I think Finley would be more valuable to the team come playoff time than Williams or Hairston would. Especially if there's not a lot of minutes to be had after Richardson, Ginobli, Mason, Bogans.

    I'm sure if they have an opportunity to trade someone to save money they will do so. But it's not like they have to scramble and dump someone right away. If at all.

    They have some crazy depth now. Need to find out if it all comes together though. And with the way other teams have loaded up it's not a bad thing for the Spurs to be loaded either.
    With the roster we have now, I doubt Fin will get much if not any minutes during playoff time. Parker Manu Duncan Dyss Mason Jefferson we have enough fire weapons.

    Hairston Defense is the thing I want to see develop during the course of the year. Finley is done. IMO he should have retried before Bowen.

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    I suppose I could go back and find a post of mine that alluded to this acquisition.. Or, I could talk about Bogans being a 6-5'' body double for Billups and essentially a more laterally quick Udoka with less strength and ability to take on the majority of the Algerian NT -- Ya know, Mortal Kombat-style. -- but I'm going to hold off on the speculation...

    At least until Don Harris can confirm this 'rumor' with his sources, after which he can 'break the news.'

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    Good move by the Spurs; opens us a vista for one more trade.

    My best case scenario ( don't know if it is going to happen or not ) -

    Trade Matt Bonner and Michael Finley for Shane Battier. Battier can play as a tweener guarding short forwards,shooting guards and play help defense effectively against PFs such as Nowitzki. Besides, he is one guy with a high Basketball IQ - (the No Stats All Star cue Michael Lewis/ NYT). His contract is worth $6.9m and $7.3m till 2011.. nice tradeable commodity next year if things don't work out and is neither cheap nor atrociously expensive.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=nnguh4 says it can happen...

    Houston's offensive woes say it can happen (with Finley/Bonner's added scoring punch).. Trevor Ariza's arrival also makes it possible.. With Bonner & Finley's expiring + T-Mac's $20m expiring, Houston will be even more well positioned for 2010's FApalooza to add to a recovered Yao & company.

    What say,you?

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    jefferson + , mason
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    they know they can not count on manu being healthy in finals

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    I would have probably rather just let the young guys get the final spots. Bogans doesn't provide much in terms of D in my opinion, just because he's so short. Either way, you can't really complain about a possible 14th man.

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    Good move by the Spurs; opens us a vista for one more trade.

    My best case scenario ( don't know if it is going to happen or not ) -

    Trade Matt Bonner and Michael Finley for Shane Battier. Battier can play as a tweener guarding short forwards,shooting guards and play help defense effectively against PFs such as Nowitzki. Besides, he is one guy with a high Basketball IQ - (the No Stats All Star cue Michael Lewis/ NYT). His contract is worth $6.9m and $7.3m till 2011.. nice tradeable commodity next year if things don't work out and is neither cheap nor atrociously expensive.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=nnguh4 says it can happen...



    Houston's offensive woes say it can happen (with Finley/Bonner's added scoring punch).. Trevor Ariza's arrival also makes it possible.. With Bonner & Finley's expiring + T-Mac's $20m expiring, Houston will be even more well positioned for 2010's FApalooza to add to a recovered Yao & company.

    What say,you?
    bogans is kind of like battier
    they are both good on d

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    How does this turn into a trade Manu thread? Bogans is a solid defender, not fantastic, but much better than Finley or Udoka.

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    bogans is kind of like battier
    they are both good on d
    No comparison between Battier and Bogans. Battier is 6'8 and considered one of the better wing defenders in the league. Though I think his D is overrated, he's light years ahead of Bogans.

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    They can't be serious with this move. He better be on the inactive list EVERY game. Bogans is COMPLETE GARBAGE. The only thing he is, is strong. His defense is average. Everything about him is decidedly average or worse. He can't shoot. He can't put the ball on the floor. Finley is WAY better, even at his age. It isn't even close. This is seriously a TERRIBLE move.
    God damn you're a ing idiot. they got him for his defense you moron, not his offensive game. That was made VERY clear in the articles. And yeah, signing a 14th man to a minimum contract is never a terrible move. Dumbass.

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    i don't like this because it restricts the development of hairston or williams if the team is kept as is. but the move is definitely low risk and the spurs might even move finley back further in the rotation.

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    This really isn't good news for Malik, sorry to say..

    Bogans' game really fits the system pretty seamlessly in the Bowen/Udoka role with his corner-3's and defensive disposition, while Malik is an intriguing talent but the likes of which they've never really seen succeed in the program; not that they've had a player with a similar skill set to experiment with in the past.

    Marcus was an R.C. special and a guy the team has really showed an affinity for as of late, so I don't see this signing hurting his chances as much. He brings a unique skill set combined with good size, who when you think about it, despite the concerns over his lack of foot speed, could potentially defend and rebound as well as the recently departed Ime. Throw in the potential to play the point and maybe even have him play alongside Hill for stretches, and he just brings a potential and aspect that the others fighting for a spot just don't have.

    I think Bogans made sense all along because he was a known, solid commodity. You could easily see his game fitting within the Spurs' concept and, as a periphery player, the Spurs would be looking for known, dependable commodities to compliment all the talent they added. They weren't likely looking for upside, just some guys they could count on night-in and night-out to do their job and fill a role.

    Bogans is exactly that type of player.

    I will remain a staunch Hairston supporter and believer that, despite the addition of Bogans, he remains a top-3 perimeter, on-ball defender in the Spurs' program. -- The three being: Hill, Jefferson and Malik. -- but I understand the need for a veteran whose gained the respect of the officials and gives the team some added assurance with the experience he brings.

    It's the percentage-play and the typical, classic way in which the Spurs go about their business.

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    great move

    always like bogans espcially when he played for the rockets was a good 3 point shooter but never remember him making one really

    never noticed his defense though

    i hope finley and bonner will be shipped out and hairston and williams two guys who will be players if given the chance will fill those spots, and possibly play alot in garbage minutes if spurs blow out alot of teams this year and mclinton and gist spend the year in austin

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    Picking up Bogans for such a cheap price is pretty damn good. I am looking very forward to this season! I can't wait!

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    Spurs trying to get an all former Bucks team to beat the Bucks (RJ, Haislip, Bogans).

    on a serious note, i like the pickup. but hopefully Hairston makes the squad.

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    My hopeful Spurs 2009-2010 roster

    Starters:
    C:Tim Duncan
    PF:Antonio Mcdyess
    SF:Richard Jefferson
    SG:Roger Mason
    PG:Tony Parker

    Bench:
    C/PF:Ian Mahinmi
    PF: Dejuan Blair
    SF:Keith Bogans
    SG:Manu Ginobili
    PG:George Hill
    C:Theo Ratliff
    PF/SF:Marcus Haslip
    SF/PG:Marcus Williams
    SF/SG:Malik Hairston

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    My hopeful Spurs 2009-2010 roster

    Starters:
    C:Tim Duncan
    PF:Antonio Mcdyess
    SF:Richard Jefferson
    SG:Roger Mason
    PG:Tony Parker

    Bench:
    C/PF:Ian Mahinmi
    PF: Dejuan Blair
    SF:Keith Bogans
    SG:Manu Ginobili
    PG:George Hill
    C:Theo Ratliff
    PF/SF:Marcus Haslip
    SF/PG:Marcus Williams
    SF/SG:Malik Hairston
    interesting

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    i don't like this because it restricts the development of hairston or williams if the team is kept as is. but the move is definitely low risk and the spurs might even move finley back further in the rotation.
    do you want to win now.. or never?

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    the spurs average ago would be 28 years but if the spurs want to go to a full 15 man roster and have a 3 point shooter in close games to maybe knock down a 3 or cause defenses to collapse and pay attention to him if we need a 3 i think we need to add mcclinton but i hope he is a player for the spurs in the future just not now the same thing for gist but i believe haslip could do the same thing as gist but more athletic and better shooter and defender and extremly good dunker

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    My hopeful Spurs 2009-2010 roster

    Starters:
    C:Tim Duncan
    PF:Antonio Mcdyess
    SF:Richard Jefferson
    SG:Roger Mason
    PG:Tony Parker

    Bench:
    C/PF:Ian Mahinmi
    PF: Dejuan Blair
    SF:Keith Bogans
    SG:Manu Ginobili
    PG:George Hill
    C:Theo Ratliff
    PF/SF:Marcus Haslip
    SF/PG:Marcus Williams
    SF/SG:Malik Hairston
    heh. you forgot about me
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    heh. you forgot about me

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    well haslip can knock down 3's and is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more athletic than bonner but would be nice to get 2 2nd round picks for bonner and finley for some role players for the future

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    do you want to win now.. or never?
    there's no guarantee bogans will play better than hairston. hairston has good potential and i doubt the 14th man will be the difference maker. like i said, at least bogans is low risk with the only disadvantage being taking away minutes from hairston/williams.

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    Damn, I like low profile defensive players. Good move by the Spurs.

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    there's no guarantee bogans will play better than hairston. hairston has good potential and i doubt the 14th man will be the difference maker. like i said, at least bogans is low risk with the only disadvantage being taking away minutes from hairston/williams.
    Please, Marcus Williams sucks, and Hairston is no gaurantee.

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    well haslip can knock down 3's and is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more athletic than bonner but would be nice to get 2 2nd round picks for bonner and finley for some role players for the future
    Quit

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    MASON AND BONNER


    STOP WITH THE ING INSANITY PEOPLE!

    Christ!

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