Great QB or Greatest QB?

[dirk4mvp]

I'll take Peyton over anyone. No QB has ever made an entire offense look exponentially better the way Peyton Manning does. He made a 5'11 posession receiver in Marvin Harrison (who is not any better than say Derrick Mason) even look better than Randy freaking Moss for a lot of his career. If it wasn't for Manning, Harrison wouldn't have had NEAR the success that he has had. Same for Reggie Wayne. Seriously, the majority of the players on the Colts offense right now are rather mediocre, but Manning makes them all look like Pro-Bowlers. The guy makes amazing reads, puts the ball on the money, and simply knows football like no one else. It's too bad that the Colts have consistently put ty players around him, but think that they are good because Manning makes them look a lot better than they seem. Can you imagine if he had Randy Moss to throw to? He would have had well more than 50 TD passes.

Manning is simply the best QB ever.

Good post except for the bolded which I don't think any sane person would say. Harrison is the best route runner and has arguably the best hands of all time. But he's not any better than Mason. rofl.

[LnGrrrR]

After some more deep statistical research, I don't think there is any question that Peyton Manning has proven to be the best QB the game has seen. And I would have to say that Tom Brady is probably the next best QB of all time.

check www.pro-football-reference.com and compare Peyton to other great QBs... he pretty much either has already, or is about to blow everyone else away in pretty much all categories.

Which is what's so great about the annual Pats/Colts game. We get to see a rivalry of two stars in their prime, and the game nearly always has post season implications.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

better than brees by a mile?

What has Brees ever done other than all over really bad pass defenses?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

So he's pre-2005 Manning?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So he's pre-2005 Manning?

Pre-2005 Manning still made the playoffs every year. The Saints have made it one outa three times with Brees.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Not only is he probably the greatest QB of all time, he is already the greatest actor on a skit show ever.

[monosylab1k]

Pre-2005 Manning still made the playoffs every year. The Saints have made it one outa three times with Brees.

pre-2005 Manning still took his team to AFC Championship Games with one of the worst defenses in the league. Brees leads his all offense/no defense teams to regular 8-8 showings.

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Good post except for the bolded which I don't think any sane person would say. Harrison is the best route runner and has arguably the best hands of all time. But he's not any better than Mason. rofl.

What is even funnier is his "great route running" and "best hands of all time" didn't do for him in the playoffs. I think people most definitely could make an argument that Marvin Harrison is amongst the most overrated players of all time, and there isn't a doubt in my mind that guys like Derrick Mason, Hines Ward, or others could put up the same kinds of numbers. , Reggie Wayne is doing it right now. Randy Moss and T.O. would have been hauling in 20+ TDs every other year.

Harrison = overrated.

[Ghazi]

pre-2005 Manning still took his team to AFC Championship Games with one of the worst defenses in the league. Brees leads his all offense/no defense teams to regular 8-8 showings.

Maybe cause uh, his teams have no defense?


If the Chargers kept him he would have had a ring guys!!

[symple19]

better than brees by a mile?

YES

For those trying to compare Peyton to Joe Montana, I won't even listen to that until he has another ring

[monosylab1k]

Maybe cause uh, his teams have no defense?

Are you even paying attention to what the is going on?

Someone compared Brees to pre-2005 Peyton. Which is crap, because alot of Peyton's teams never played defense and he still got them to the playoffs every year, while Brees doesn't.

Don't be a dumb , Ghazi.

[Phillip]

why is ghazi such a moron?

and where the has beefanus been? i want to see him tell us how worthlessburger is the best ever

[LOL texans]

Maybe cause uh, his teams have no defense?


If the Chargers kept him he would have had a ring guys!!

Thats a stupid excuse. Quit resting Brees nuts on your chin.

When have the Colts had a good defense? Never mattered because Manning always got them in the playoffs and won a game or 2 or 3.

If the Chargers had kept him he would still be ringless! AND have lesser stats that you are so in love with

[Dr. Gonzo]

Stats aside, what makes him the best QB ever is his ability to read a defense before the snap and command his offense. I have never seen a QB pretty much be the OC on the field and nail almost any pass imaginable. He has a great football IQ, great arm and is more mobile that he is given credit for. He will have a couple more rings before he retires and there will be no argument.

[bostonguy]

Manning is a great QB. Due to Bradys shaky start, I have to say he is the best in the league. If/When Brady gets it going again, he will slide back to #1 and Manning will be 1a. Brady at the moment is no where near Peyton or any other pro bowl QB.

[bostonguy]

Oh and Montana is the best QB of all time.

[Phillip]

If/When Brady gets it going again, he will slide back to #1 and Manning will be 1a.

Wrong.

Oh and Montana is the best QB of all time.

Wrong.

[LOL texans]

Manning is a great QB. Due to Bradys shaky start, I have to say he is the best in the league. If/When Brady gets it going again, he will slide back to #1 and Manning will be 1a. Brady at the moment is no where near Peyton or any other pro bowl QB.

Brady is rusty as but no doubt in my mind he'll shake it off. He'll be back to form by their 6th game I predict, setting up another classic Brady-Manning duel in November.

[bostonguy]

Wrong.



Wrong.

lol raiders
lol Brady>Manning
lol Montana>Brady>Manning

[bostonguy]

Brady is rusty as but no doubt in my mind he'll shake it off. He'll be back to form by their 6th game I predict, setting up another classic Brady-Manning duel in November.

I love those Colt/Patriot games. By then MAYBE we will see the 2 best qbs duke it out in Indy. Should make for a great Sunday Night game if Brady finally gets going by then.

[IronMexican]

2007 AFC Championship is on ESPN2. Not the whole game, but most of the good stuff in a hour and thirty minute thing.

[monosylab1k]

Great as Peyton is, there's still no denying that the guy is a world-class choker. The only clutch performance I can think of is the last Championship Game against the Patriots. He sucked ass in the Super Bowl but lucky for him, Rex Grossman sucked more ass.

[bostonguy]

2007 AFC Championship is on ESPN2. Not the whole game, but most of the good stuff in a hour and thirty minute thing.

Classic yet heartbreaking game. I won't lie, I rooted for the Colts in the superbowl that year. I wanted Peyton to get that ring.

[monosylab1k]

Classic yet heartbreaking game. I won't lie, I rooted for the Colts in the superbowl that year. I wanted Peyton to get that ring.

at the time, I seriously would rather have eaten a pound of fresh dog than see Peyton win that ring. Looking back now, I've got more respect for Peyton and the Colts than any other Pats rival, so I'm happy he got his ring.

[IronMexican]

Classic yet heartbreaking game. I won't lie, I rooted for the Colts in the superbowl that year. I wanted Peyton to get that ring.

I never root for any team I hate. I wanted Elway to end his career with none.