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    from your mother.
    She's dead, so you didn't get it from her.

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    Do you know about the Battle of Fallujah?
    Guerilla warfare.

    It's unconventional warfare

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    She's dead, so you didn't get it from her.
    sound of the defeated. no rebuttal yet.

    predictable

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    Guerilla warfare.
    How would you define it as Guerilla warfare?

    It's unconventional warfare
    Some of it might have been. Other parts were conventional.

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    sound of the defeated. no rebuttal yet.

    predictable
    You just said it you got it from my mother.

    You might as well wave a white flag, dumbass.

    You surrendered and you don't even know it.

    Look up "surrender" in wikipedia.

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    Guerilla warfare.

    It's unconventional warfare
    It was a very conventional battle from the US standpoint. Counterinsurgency tactics proposed by the Marines were rejected by those higher up in favor of a full-scale conventional assault.

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    How would you define it as Guerilla warfare?


    Some of it might have been. Other parts were conventional.
    US Military Dictionary: unconventional warfare

    A broad spectrum of military and paramilitary operations, normally of long duration, predominantly conducted by indigenous or surrogate forces who are organized, trained, equipped, supported, and directed in varying degrees by an external source. Unconventional warfare includes guerrilla warfare and other direct offensive, low visibility, covert, or clandestine operations, as well as the indirect activities of subversion, sabotage, intelligence activities, and evasion and escape.

    http://www.answers.com/topic/unconventional-warfare

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    What I was asking is what aspects of the battle would you define as Guerrilla?

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    Are you trying to say it was NOT unconventional warfare?

    Go ahead and prove your case.

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    US Military Dictionary: unconventional warfare

    A broad spectrum of military and paramilitary operations, normally of long duration, predominantly conducted by indigenous or surrogate forces who are organized, trained, equipped, supported, and directed in varying degrees by an external source. Unconventional warfare includes guerrilla warfare and other direct offensive, low visibility, covert, or clandestine operations, as well as the indirect activities of subversion, sabotage, intelligence activities, and evasion and escape.

    http://www.answers.com/topic/unconventional-warfare
    So there was nothing unconventional about the US assault on Fallujah.

    Thanks for kicking your ass for me.

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    Are you trying to say it was NOT unconventional warfare?

    Go ahead and prove your case.
    You just did it for us.

    Thanks again!

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    Pentagon admits using white phosphorous in Iraq
    Nov. 15, 2005. 07:22 PM

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Pentagon officials acknowledged Tuesday that U.S. troops used white phosphorous as a weapon against Iraqi insurgents during the battle of Fallujah last November but denied an Italian television report the flammable material was used against civilians.

    Lt.-Col. Barry Venable, a Pentagon spokesman, said while white phosphorous is most frequently used to mark targets or obscure a position, it was used at times in Fallujah as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants.

    "It was not used against civilians," Venable said.

    The spokesman referred to an article in the March-April 2005 edition of the U.S. army's Field Artillery magazine, an official publication, in which veterans of the Fallujah fight spelled out their use of white phosphorous and other weapons. The authors used the shorthand WP in referring to white phosphorous.

    "WP proved to be an effective and versatile munition," the authors wrote.

    "We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes when we could not get effects on them with HE (high explosive)" munitions.

    "We fired `shake and bake' missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out."

    The authors added, in citing lessons for future urban battles, fire-support teams should have used another type of smoke bomb for screening missions in Fallujah "and saved our WP for lethal missions."

    The battle for Fallujah was the most intense and deadly fight of the war, after the fall of Baghdad in April 2003. The city, about 55 kilometres west of Baghdad on the Euphrates River, was a key insurgent stronghold. The authors of the "after action" report said they encountered few civilians in their area of operations.

    Italian Communists held a sit-in Monday in front of the U.S. Embassy in Rome to protest against the reported use by U.S. troops of white phosphorous. Italy's RAI24 news television aired a do entary last week alleging the United States used white phosphorous s s in a "massive and indiscriminate way" against civilians during the Fallujah offensive.

    The U.S. State Department, in response, initially denied troops had used white phosphorous against enemy forces.

    "They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters."

    The department later said its statement had been incorrect.

    "There is a great deal of misinformation feeding on itself about U.S. forces allegedly using `outlawed' weapons in Fallujah," the department said.

    "The facts are that U.S. forces are not using any illegal weapons in Fallujah or anywhere else in Iraq."

    Venable said white phosphorous s s are a standard weapon used by field artillery units and are not banned by any international weapons convention to which the United States is a signatory.

    White phosphorous is a colourless-to-yellow translucent wax-like substance with a pungent, garlic-like smell. The form used by the military ignites once it is exposed to oxygen, producing such heat it bursts into a yellow flame and produces a dense white smoke. It can cause painful burns to exposed human flesh.



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    you have nothing else to say eh?

    Iraq insurgency is guerilla warfare, practicing unconventional warfare

    and the USA practiced unconventional warfare.


    You lose, american assholes.

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    The US assault on Fallujah was a nice example of conventional warfare.

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    Bush was not wrong. He was referring to major combat operations vs Saddam hussein. Did Saddam's government come back from the dead and start another war with us? no

    What is happening now is REBELS, insurgents are hiding amongst civilians and attacking and then running away. that is guerilla warfare.


    good night newbies.

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    you have nothing else to say eh?

    Iraq insurgency is guerilla warfare, practicing unconventional warfare

    and the USA practiced unconventional warfare.


    You lose, american assholes.
    Trenches and spider holes are examples of guerrilla warfare? Trenches. Are you trolling or are you just really stupid?

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    The US assault on Fallujah was a nice example of conventional warfare.

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    you're a troll. you just got owned so now you just repeat yourself and plug your ears.

    OWNED

    1) USA used chemical weapons at fallujah. no longer conventional war.

    and

    2) The insurgents in the battle of fallujah were practicing UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE


    hahaahahhaha

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    Bush was not wrong. He was referring to major combat operations vs Saddam hussein. Did Saddam's government come back from the dead and start another war with us? no
    He said "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

    That's the quote.

    He was wrong.

    You are wrong.

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    Well, technically ID was Jan. 20. It'll be 9 months in 9 days.

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    Bush was not wrong. He was referring to major combat operations vs Saddam hussein.
    He said major combat operations in Iraq, not against a certain man.
    Did Saddam's government come back from the dead and start another war with us? no
    They didn't start this one.

    What is happening now is REBELS, insurgents are hiding amongst civilians and attacking and then running away.
    Was the Revolutionary War a Guerrilla war? Also, that is not all that is happening and wasn't all that was happening during the battle of Fallujah.
    that is guerilla warfare.
    Not really.

    good night newbies.
    Night.

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    Trenches and spider holes are examples of guerrilla warfare? Trenches. Are you trolling or are you just really stupid?
    Ok, let's just skip the guerilla warfare of the insurgents

    let me nail the coffin on you

    USA used chemical weapons at fallujah. Conventional warfare does not use chemical weapons.


    The end. Ding dong the witch is dead.

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    you're a troll. you just got owned so now you just repeat yourself and plug your ears.

    OWNED

    1) USA used chemical weapons at fallujah. no longer conventional war.

    and

    2) The insurgents in the battle of fallujah were practicing UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE


    hahaahahhaha
    The US assault on Fallujah was conventional, as the counterinsurgency tactics the Marines wanted to use were rejected.

    It bears repeating because you don't get it.

    That and Bush said nothing about conventional or unconventional.

    He said "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

    That's it.

    Fallujah was a major combat operation.

    A conventional one.

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    Ok, let's just skip the guerilla warfare of the insurgents

    let me nail the coffin on you

    USA used chemical weapons at fallujah. Conventional warfare does not use chemical weapons.
    Based on what?


    The end. Ding dong the witch is dead.
    I thought you were leaving.

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    Conventional warfare does not use chemical weapons.
    World War I was a conventional war.

    DING DONG

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