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This year's Lakers, including crazy Ron Ron, will be considered the best since the 80's Showtime.
If not, I'll never dare to argue with you again.
Giving them confidence, passing them the ball every time the play calls for it (no matter how many times they ed up before), beign a positive leader on and off the court. In other words playing the game in the right way.
This year's Lakers, including crazy Ron Ron, will be considered the best since the 80's Showtime.
If not, I'll never dare to argue with you again.
That ain't Kobe Byant.
and then lose?
Y'know, I always thought of it as writers making up a BS reason for Kobe not to get a season MVP.
But I'm starting to understand what really makes a great player like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Duncan while other super talented players like Shaq are a cut below them. Shaq and LeBron are just flat out dominant and win through their own sheer greatness but I don't think they make their teammates better.
Kobe might yell, slap, hit, punch his teammates, but they all still respect and want to do well by him. As did MJ. They throw them the ball and "trust" them to make the shot when it's more like "you better make that ". And these guys want to make that shot so they earn Kobe's respect while at the same time, dodging a slap to the head.
Duncan does it through nurturing mostly and holding guys accountable.
It's for this very same reason that Kobe's gone from a spectacularly good player and ballhog into a winner "sans Daddy".
These guys get the most juice out of the guys that play with them.
Last edited by Allanon; 10-23-2009 at 01:12 PM.
Disagreed. IMO making teammates better might be the most important part of sports.
If you play the game in "the right way", you've a lot more chances of winning.
Kobe...that is all. King James will only be a Prince until Kobe retires. He's still the best player in the league.
yah with Kwame, Luke, Cook and Smush as your starters. Bring on the rings!
Making teammates better is very important. Take the Billups/Iverson-Denver/Detroit case for example. I think 99,9% of the people will agree that Iverson is a more talented player than Billups, however Billups teams did much better than Iversons, that's 'cause Chauncey makes people around him better while AI makes them worst.
the right way is always better then the wrong way....but there is a thin line.
Knocking Kobe because he is winning with Gasol but couldnt with Smush and Kwame is just DUMB.
Of course that besides "playing the right way", you need talent. But with talent alone you don't win . In fact I'm pretty sure that a team full of average players that play in "the right way" would beat a team of talented players that don't.yah with Kwame, Luke, Cook and Smush as your starters. Bring on the rings!
Who is doing that?
I don't like it, but Kobe > Lebron.
Both guys can carry a team, but Bryant has done so with better results. Kobe has won many times on the biggest levels. Lebron has not.
Lebron is all muscle, athleticism, and hype. Kobe is a downright assassin on the court, and has been even after losing some of his athleticism.
Kobe has hit countless big playoff shots. ESPN lost its load last spring when "King James" hit what seemed to be his first.
But yeah, let's give it to the guy that can run fast and dunk hard.
That certainly wasn't LeBron's first big playoff shot. And let's not act like Kobe has never blown up when it comes to big shots in the playoffs. I'm sure you forgot about his performance against the Piston in 07 or his game winners against the Wizards.
lol at all hype. That's an ignorant statement. He was the most hyped player of all time coming out of high school and he's delivered and more. What exactly was Kobe doing when the Lakers 2nd best player was about as good as Mo Williams?
And using the Finals sweep against him is ever more re ed logic you're using. That's the most mediocre Finals team in the last 10 years probably (and that's including the Nets and Pacers) and it was a feat in itself he even got that team to that point.
Last edited by dirk4mvp; 10-23-2009 at 01:26 PM.
yah...i see that every time i play ball at the gym...when you see 5 black guys lose against 5 small asian dudes. LOL
So you agree with me that "the making teammates better" thing isn't a dumb cliche.
Making the Playoffs in the West with 0 All Stars and Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Luke Walton as starters. Seriously, those 3 guys wouldn't even make 3rd string on most NBA rosters but there they were, starters on a Western Playoff team.
But that was young selfish Kobeshow. Today's Kobe would take that morbid team into a 4th seed and possible WCF.
no its still a dumb cliche to base it on a player.
LeBron took a ty team to the Finals. Kobe took a ty team to the first round or even didn't make the playoffs at all.
its tru thoe. lol
You'll see it when Artest cost you the championship this season.
Lebron should win an award for taking his ty team to the finals.
Damn, good point laker fan.Lebron should win an award for taking his ty team to the finals.
ahh so if artest does good, he was a good player all along, but if he blows up, its kobe's fault for not making him better.
Therfore, "Making teammates better" is a dumb cliche.
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