To me, it is not a question right now: Malik has shown better offense and defense than Bogans. The thing is though, that Bogans is so new, I (and surely the staff) know Bogans can turn it up defensively with some more time with the team.
Definitely. This is what I have been hoping the outcome would be...Hairston getting a chance to earn his minutes on the floor in the regular season. I'm really pulling for him to play well because it really opens up our personnel options if he does.
To me, it is not a question right now: Malik has shown better offense and defense than Bogans. The thing is though, that Bogans is so new, I (and surely the staff) know Bogans can turn it up defensively with some more time with the team.
Not only is Hairston a better player, but he knows the system better..as many of us have noticed, he's also developed great chemistry with Hill and Blair, 2 guys that are going to play a big factor off our bench this year..
Hill, Manu, Malik, Blair can be a high energy, good defensive second unit.
Out of those players however, I don't think Blair or Malik get very many minutes. Blair more than Hairston, but I have a feeling Blair will play less than Spurs fans are happy with.
Good luck Marcus. He's got enough talent to stick somewhere, whether it's here or overseas for a couple years until he can come back. He averaged a freaking triple-double in the final month or so of the D-league, he has potential.
Right now, I think Bogans has the edge defensively, but Hairston has a better, attacking-style offensive game. They both have value if there is an injury to one of the primary wing players.
First, I've never said that. I'm just disagreeing with your sympathy for him because of what some posters on an internet forum have said. Who gives a ? Everybody works hard, is my point. Look at James Gist, he's working his ass off and didn't even get an invite to camp. You called out the posters on this forum for not working hard. I was merely reacting to it.
No I don't see Blair getting many minutes to start the season, but I think his performance will force Pop to give him more minutes as we get deeper into the season.
And I hope this means Malik is in. I think he has the potential to get some meaningful minutes playing specific match ups throughout the season. Further development and who knows how much better Malik will be in the future.
I feel for Marcus Williams but his lack of assertiveness was his undoing. He just didn't show enough to warrant giving him a roster spot.
Nope, didn't mean it to sound that way. I'm sure they all work hard, but compared to some people's lifestyles and challenges, maybe it pales in comparison. How's that?
Next: Keith Bogans
This roster looks good to go now.
I can guarantee you they won't be cutting a guaranteed contract.
I can guarantee you won't regret that post
Theres really no need to waive anybody else. The roster is at the magic number 15. Hairston's contract will not be guaranteed for a while...thereby giving you time to take a longer look at him. And theres no need to waive Bogans as you're paying his salary regardless. The only reason you'd waive him is if he was your 15th man and you had another guy you wanted to bring in to fill that roster spot. At this point...not so much.
Take it forward as is.
You must be new here, and by here, I mean understanding the Spurs FO
I think Williams' game just doesn't quite translate, he's outdone by lack of athleticism, which is just exploited at the NBA level. He's a skilled player who can definitely dominate the NBDL, but the reality was that he had to go, he didn't have a role here this year.
He should go and make money in Europe. His height & passing ability make him a good fit in a motion(offense) & zone(Defense) system, fitting the Euro game better than he does the NBA game of Iso's and man to man.
He should work with a trainer doing work on athleticism, trying to improve it as much as he can(sprint work, jumping etc). If he can be a bit better athletically, he can have a role someday.
Best of Luck to Marcus
Good luck to Williams
Nice one by FinWilliams, an affable guard-forward from Arizona, found a far corner at the team's practice facility and sat, all alone, trying hard to maintain his composure.
Finally, Michael Finley, the team's oldest player and a role model for Williams' game, came out of the locker room and did his best to console him.
Williams will probably tear up D-League this year and get called up during the season to play in the NBA. He's got a good all-around game and someone will recognize it.
But unfortunately for him, Hairston improved his all-around game and has the athleticism to stick in the league. Williams was clearly the odd man out.
Like I said though, he's demonstrated good skills and solid work ethic...he'll stick somewhere.
I think Hairston is on the same role as Williams...
Umm there is no reason to waive Bogans. His contract and the luxury tax is all said and done. I just don't want them to try and give him minutes he don't deserve just because they did go out their way to sign him.
As much as I dislike Finley's role on the team, he's truly a class act and a guy to look up to for young players..
Like it or not but the most likely scenario for the start of the season is Bogans at the end of the bench and Hairston on the inactive list. Bogans should be useful on some specific defensive missions.
Bogans has been bad in the preseason but he has been a solid player for years and Pop doesn't give up on players because they are in a shooting slump.
He was a solid player, just did not have the tools to make it at the NBA level. Take it from Haislip, go play in Europe.
In news of another erstwhile Spur draftee, it appears Jack McClinton is headed to Turkey. From Thursday's Miami Herald:
Jack McClinton was back at BankUnited Center on Wednesday night, taking a sneak peek at what the University of Miami men's basketball team looks like without him.
The two-time All-ACC first-team guard and recent NBA second-round pick -- who is leaving Thursday to join his professional team in Turkey
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/co...y/1294381.html
There was no mention of him on the Turkish Basketball League official site.
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