Why are the Lakers a good team?

[Allanon]

Hahahaha. No. Marc Gasol will never be the 2nd option on a team with three shoot first guards like Iverson, Mayo and Gay. Not to mention Randolph what a disaster that team is.

He was pretty much the first option yesterday.

One game. One game where Memphis was blown out. Marc G. won't average 11 free throws or 12 defensive boards a game. I promise.

What do you think Marc Gasol will average this year?

[milkshakeballa]

The nets have gotten rid of Jason Kidd, Vince Carter and Richard Jefferson. That is a fact, the rest is your opinion.

Pau Gasol traded: Feb. 1, 2008
Richard Jefferson traded: Jun. 26, 2008 (after Kwame expired) for Yi +
Vince Carter traded: Jun. 26, 2009

Do you see the timeline of events?? Are you really that stupid or do you need me to explain it and make you a nice timeline like in 4th grade?

They didn't have Marc Gasol.

Marc Gasol at the beginning of 2008 was in Spain. In the middle of the year was in Spain. After Bynum went down...he was in Spain. Do you think the Lakers were going to bring Marc Gasol in for the playoffs? With 0 NBA experience? Once again...are you really this dumb?

In 08, the Lakers lost, and Pau/Lamar were criticized for not helping Kobe. It doesn't matter what they did in 08.

It has EVERYTHING to do in 2008. Let's go with your argument. Bynum goes down. Lakers don't get Pau. Kidd traded for Devin Harris (wait...we should have beat this trade and gave away Drew?!?!?!). Gasol kills in Spain. Drew doesn't return. Lakers fall middle of pack in WC. Playoff lineup:

Fish
Sasha
Kobe
LO
Kwame

Lakers lose in first round...or let's be nice...in the 2nd. Kwame expires. NO CAP ROOM. No flexibility. No way of getting help short of trading LO or Drew. Next year looks bleak. Kobe is APE . Kobe in 2009 is wearing a ing Bulls jersey. Or ing in some other city.

In 09, yes, Marc Gasol would have been fine. Let's not forget the only hard series the Lakers had in 09 was versus the Rockets. Every other series was pretty much, let's get this over with and move on.

Man...I wonder why we only had 1 difficult series. Could it be...now hear me out...could it POSSIBLY be we had a big man who put up 18,10,2 blcks, 3 asts, SHOT 58% and DEMANDED a double team EVERYTIME he touched the ball? Possibly just a little tiny tiny reason why? Don't forget absolutely DESTROYING Boozer. Absolutely shutting down the paint against the Nugs. And last but not least...shutting down and DOMINATING D Howard....WHILE ALSO getting his ass out on the wing and D'in up Rashard Lewis.
Do you honestly think Marc could do this as a rookie his first time in the playoffs? ...do you honestly think Marc Gasol will EVER be able to do this in his career? YES OR NO?

Wow, those are real powerhouses. Yes, Marc Gasol + a $13 million player would have been plenty.

Look up top when those players were traded. So I don't know what this $13 mil player you speak of. Marc Gasol if he were still in the org wouldn't have even played in the ing playoffs in 08. He was still in Spain.

You Pau lovers make me sick, Kobe's the MVP, not Pau.

Show me 1 quote of mine where I said Pau is MVP? If you do I will leave this ing forum forever. Stop your ing LYING dip .

Suck it Pau lover, Kobe doesn't need Shaq, he sure as didn't need Pau.

Sigh...Kobe is my favorite player. I think he is the BEST to ever play the game. With that said...

Take Shaq off the 3peat teams...the Lakers don't win ONE le...
Take Kobe off those teams...the Lakers don't win ONE le...

Give him a 12/10 Big man with Lamar/Ariza/Fish and he's good to go.

Hehe...this is fun. So replace Pau with:

Kaman
Okafor
Tyson Chandler
KRISTIC!!
Biedrins!!
Okur!!!!

They would win a le right?!?!?!

[Allanon]

Pau Gasol traded: Feb. 1, 2008
Richard Jefferson traded: Jun. 26, 2008 (after Kwame expired) for Yi +
Vince Carter traded: Jun. 26, 2009

Do you see the timeline of events?? Are you really that stupid or do you need me to explain it and make you a nice timeline like in 4th grade?

Oh I'm sorry you are an NBA GM you know those guys couldn't have been traded before those dates? Stop with the bull

Marc Gasol at the beginning of 2008 was in Spain. In the middle of the year was in Spain. After Bynum went down...he was in Spain. Do you think the Lakers were going to bring Marc Gasol in for the playoffs? With 0 NBA experience? Once again...are you really this dumb?

Uhmm, geez dude, obviously you don't know . From what I recall, the Lakers didn't do in '08.

It has EVERYTHING to do in 2008. Let's go with your argument. Bynum goes down. Lakers don't get Pau. Kidd traded for Devin Harris (wait...we should have beat this trade and gave away Drew?!?!?!). Gasol kills in Spain. Drew doesn't return. Lakers fall middle of pack in WC. Playoff lineup:

Fish
Sasha
Kobe
LO
Kwame

Lakers lose in first round...or let's be nice...in the 2nd. Kwame expires. NO CAP ROOM. No flexibility. No way of getting help short of trading LO or Drew. Next year looks bleak. Kobe is APE . Kobe in 2009 is wearing a ing Bulls jersey. Or ing in some other city.

Who said anything about trading Drew. This was the Kwame trade, remember? Or are you that dumb?

Man...I wonder why we only had 1 difficult series. Could it be...now hear me out...could it POSSIBLY be we had a big man who put up 18,10,2 blcks, 3 asts, SHOT 58% and DEMANDED a double team EVERYTIME he touched the ball? Possibly just a little tiny tiny reason why? Don't forget absolutely DESTROYING Boozer. Absolutely shutting down the paint against the Nugs. And last but not least...shutting down and DOMINATING D Howard....WHILE ALSO getting his ass out on the wing and D'in up Rashard Lewis.
Do you honestly think Marc could do this as a rookie his first time in the playoffs? ...do you honestly think Marc Gasol will EVER be able to do this in his career? YES OR NO?

You don't know Marc Gasol, obviously. You have this pre-conceived notion that all Euro players are soft and sad. You said this yourself, need a quote?

Look up top when those players were traded. So I don't know what this $13 mil player you speak of. Marc Gasol if he were still in the org wouldn't have even played in the ing playoffs in 08. He was still in Spain.

Yeah, Pau sure did a great job winning the le in '08.

Show me 1 quote of mine where I said Pau is MVP? If you do I will leave this ing forum forever. Stop your ing LYING dip .

You're saying Kobe can't win without Pau. I'm saying Kobe could have won it with any decent big man. Stop your ing Pau knobin.

Hehe...this is fun. So replace Pau with:

Kaman
Okafor
Tyson Chandler
KRISTIC!!
Biedrins!!
Okur!!!!

They would win a le right?!?!?!

Yes. Take your pick, any of these would do it.

Kobe/Marc Gasol/Lamar/Ariza/Fisher/Bynum/Kaman
or
Kobe/Marc Gasol/Lamar/Artest/Fisher/Bynum/Kaman

That's a championship lineup right there.

[adidas11]

The Lakers are a good team because they have the deepest roster in the league, with a legitimate 11 man rotation.

With that depth, they have good balance at all positions.

They are basically the 2002 Sacramento Kings, with more of a killer instinct.

The one weakness that they have is they can be a little soft at times, and might not respond as well to strong physical play.

[Culburn369]

The one weakness that they have is they can be a little soft at times, and might not respond as well to strong physical play.

Yep. And if people think Artest is the answer he ain't. He's a pussycat.

He talks as if, but, it's just that: talk. We'll need more than we've shown if it comes down to us & Boston. Perkins is a thug. He's a career away from state prison. He doesn't care. He "sees" no further than the court in which he operates. Artest cares. He "sees" everything.

[milkshakeballa]

Oh I'm sorry you are an NBA GM you know those guys couldn't have been traded before those dates? Stop with the bull

Haha I posted FACTS about when those players were traded. Your telling me the Lakers could have traded for either guy BEFORE they were traded for AND that we had the pieces too. And your telling me Im acting like a GM? I used facts. Your using your own speculation as the basis for your argument. LOL ... but I'm bull ting???

Uhmm, geez dude, obviously you don't know . From what I recall, the Lakers didn't do in '08.

?? What exactly are you trying to say? You said the Lakers would be better off with not making the Pau trade. Without the Pau trade...Lakers get booted out of the first round or second round at Kobe leaves. Without the Pau trade Kboe is probably not in LA right now...

Who said anything about trading Drew. This was the Kwame trade, remember? Or are you that dumb?

With the basketball a en you have displayed in this thread.,..I assumed you were one of the peopel that wanted to trade Drew for Kidd....

I realize who Kwame was traded for....thats the trade you didn't want to happen...

You don't know Marc Gasol, obviously. You have this pre-conceived notion that all Euro players are soft and sad. You said this yourself, need a quote?

Feel free to use a quote by me when I was trying to piss off KBP. Also..its funny your last post you accuse me of being a Pau lover and nuthugger. Yet your saying I hate Euro players. Which one is it????

Yeah, Pau sure did a great job winning the le in '08.

Thank God he helped us get to the finals otherwise Kobe might be gone! Lol would Marc Gasol have helped us beat the Celtics????

You're saying Kobe can't win without Pau. I'm saying Kobe could have won it with any decent big man. Stop your ing Pau knobin.

Lying once again. I never said Kobe couldn't win without Pau. Don't know where you got that from. A line before you say I hate Euro's and won't give Marc a chance...now you say I'm on Pau's ....

Kobe/Marc Gasol/Lamar/Ariza/Fisher/Bynum/Kaman

Nice!! Between Bynum/Gasol/Kaman/LO...they are going all get A TON of minutes and really get in the flow of the game.

Fish
Kobe
Ariza
LO
Bynum/Marc/Kaman


Any Laker fans think this is a championship team? 2nd round...WCF on a good year...just IMO

Kobe/Marc Gasol/Lamar/Artest/Fisher/Bynum/Kaman

Samething as above. Lots of minutes going around. Though I will agree this is a much better lineup with Artest. This team could do some damage. Win a le this year?? If Bynum is healthy I give them a shot.

But like you say....Marc Gasol is going to be the best C in the league and average 55/25!!!!!!! So not much PT for Drew!

[milkshakeballa]

Yep. And if people think Artest is the answer he ain't. He's a pussycat.

He talks as if, but, it's just that: talk. We'll need more than we've shown if it comes down to us & Boston. Perkins is a thug. He's a career away from state prison. He doesn't care. He "sees" no further than the court in which he operates. Artest cares. He "sees" everything.

Haha...Artest is just TALK?!?!?!

LMAO

Gm's survey 09-10

Toughest player in the NBA?
1. Artest
2. Kobe


Trust me...toughness is NOT a problem with this team....

[Allanon]

Haha I posted FACTS about when those players were traded. Your telling me the Lakers could have traded for either guy BEFORE they were traded for AND that we had the pieces too. And your telling me Im acting like a GM? I used facts. Your using your own speculation as the basis for your argument. LOL ... but I'm bull ting???

Yes, facts but our argument is based upon a hypothetical situation. Those guys hypothetically could have been traded at any time. To say they couldn't have been, you would have had to have been their GM.

?? What exactly are you trying to say? You said the Lakers would be better off with not making the Pau trade. Without the Pau trade...Lakers get booted out of the first round or second round at Kobe leaves. Without the Pau trade Kboe is probably not in LA right now...

Again, you're trying to say Kobe can't do it without Pau. Bring in Chris Kaman instead of Kwame Brown and Kobe's getting to the WCF. Then Marc Gasol joins the next year, that's an ass-kicking squad, Kobe ain't leaving that.

With the basketball a en you have displayed in this thread.,..I assumed you were one of the peopel that wanted to trade Drew for Kidd....

I realize who Kwame was traded for....thats the trade you didn't want to happen...

Yes, Kwame could have been traded for somebody else, it didn't have to be Pau and the Lakers still would be championship favorites today. The Lakers aren't favorites because of your boy Pau as you try to say, it's because of Kobe.

Feel free to use a quote by me when I was trying to piss off KBP. Also..its funny your last post you accuse me of being a Pau lover and nuthugger. Yet your saying I hate Euro players. Which one is it????

You're the one that's confused. You're back-pedaling, why isn't that surprising?

Thank God he helped us get to the finals otherwise Kobe might be gone! Lol would Marc Gasol have helped us beat the Celtics????

Yup. Marc Gasol will never be called "soft" like Pau was against the Celtics. Marc's toughness is his main advantage over Pau.

Lying once again. I never said Kobe couldn't win without Pau. Don't know where you got that from. A line before you say I hate Euro's and won't give Marc a chance...now you say I'm on Pau's ....

Wait, you're confusing me. Tell me. Would Kobe have won last year without Pau?

Nice!! Between Bynum/Gasol/Kaman/LO...they are going all get A TON of minutes and really get in the flow of the game.

Fish
Kobe
Ariza
LO
Bynum/Marc/Kaman


Any Laker fans think this is a championship team? 2nd round...WCF on a good year...just IMO

It's debateable, I say it is more than enough, you say it isn't. That's fine.

Samething as above. Lots of minutes going around. Though I will agree this is a much better lineup with Artest. This team could do some damage. Win a le this year?? If Bynum is healthy I give them a shot.

But like you say....Marc Gasol is going to be the best C in the league and average 55/25!!!!!!! So not much PT for Drew!

Nah, Marc is playing PF with Bynum, not Center. Odom as usual would be brought in off the bench and sub for Marc. Kaman would sub for Bynum. That's a seriously good lineup.

You keep avoiding the question but can make up a number like 55/25?

I'll ask you again. What do you think Marc Gasol will average this year?

Afraid to answer the question I've already asked like 3 times?

[Culburn369]

Haha...Artest is just TALK?!?!?!

LMAO

Gm's survey 09-10

Toughest player in the NBA?
1. Artest
2. Kobe


Trust me...toughness is NOT a problem with this team....

I'm not talking about that milquetoast toughness of the Western Conference. I'm talking about Boston in particular. Unless we've "evolved" I just don't see us conquering there. We've done nothing tangible. I'm not buying Artest. Sure, he's tough "off the court" and on the periferals, as well as hothead events like with Kobe there in '09 playoffs, but, he does not intimidate or impact with his "toughness."

[Donkeybong]

milkshakeballa, dont waste your time. Allanon is just weird. Unlike most of us Laker fans, he doesn't see what Pau brought to the table. Just let him enjoy his little "what ifs".

[Allanon]

milkshakeballa, dont waste your time. Allanon is just weird. Unlike most of us Laker fans, he doesn't see what Pau brought to the table. Just let him enjoy his little "what ifs".

Hi balla.

[milkshakeballa]

LOL ok Allanon...I have two questions for you and I'm done?

1) Who is the better player right now...Marc or Pau?

2) Who will be the better player for the next four years...Marc or Pau?

[milkshakeballa]

And one more question..

The Lakers are PROHIBITIVE FAVORTIES for the next 4-5 years while Kobe is in his prime.....agreed?????

How could it be BETTER than that....as you say???

[Allanon]

LOL ok Allanon...I have two questions for you and I'm done?

I agree, after these next couple of posts, I'm not responding further. I have a 10 page or less rule this year. You want to argue more, start a new thread.

I'm answering your questions with the least reply-provoking answers.

1) Who is the better player right now...Marc or Pau?

Pau

2) Who will be the better player for the next four years...Marc or Pau?

Marc

[Allanon]

And one more question..

The Lakers are PROHIBITIVE FAVORTIES for the next 4-5 years while Kobe is in his prime.....agreed?????

Agreed.

How could it be BETTER than that....as you say???

I'm not going to answer this , it's going to start another 10 pages.

[KSeal]

And one more question..

The Lakers are PROHIBITIVE FAVORTIES for the next 4-5 years while Kobe is in his prime.....agreed?????

How could it be BETTER than that....as you say???

Try 2-3 years. With the milage that's already on Kobe, he's not going to be Kobe in 4 years when he's 35.

[milkshakeballa]

Try 2-3 years. With the milage that's already on Kobe, he's not going to be Kobe in 4 years when he's 35.

Sorry brah

Kobe is the hardest worker in the game. IMPECCABLE SHAPE. He is going to be able to COAST during the regular season and will just turn it on come playoff time. Lakers favorites next 4 or 5 years. Also in that 4 and 5 year....Bynum is a 26 year old beast...Pau and LO are just exiting their prime as is Artest....4-5 minimum brah

[Donkeybong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pozJusNZyz4

[Agloco]

Yep. And if people think Artest is the answer he ain't. He's a pussycat.

He talks as if, but, it's just that: talk. We'll need more than we've shown if it comes down to us & Boston. Perkins is a thug. He's a career away from state prison. He doesn't care. He "sees" no further than the court in which he operates. Artest cares. He "sees" everything.

Don't worry about the stray cat in the stands folks, it's harmless.....