Nov 3, 2009 Elections to Watch

[Viva Las Espuelas]

GMAFB

No.

Polls had Hoffman ahead with 18% undecided. And the undecideds doubled over the weekend. Obviously, they aren't pulling the lever for the s bag. That's what you get for eating your own.

s bag?

[Wild Cobra]

ah. just looking at cnn.com
wish they have the area maps and all that stuff. looks like the gap is closing. what's the population of that district?

654,360 by the 2000 census. 2008 turnout was 199,103.

Hoffman's not going to win.

63% reporting

46,646 49.3% Owen
42,958 45.4% Hoffman

[Wild Cobra]

GMAFB

No.

Polls had Hoffman ahead with 18% undecided. And the undecideds doubled over the weekend. Obviously, they aren't pulling the lever for the s bag. That's what you get for eating your own.

Call it what you want, but I like RINO season.

[MannyIsGod]

Interesting if the Dems really do pull that seat out. I thought it was far more likely they'd hold on to NJ. I don't know what to think if they actually win NY23.

[Wild Cobra]

Interesting if the Dems really do pull that seat out. I thought it was far more likely they'd hold on to NJ. I don't know what to think if they actually win NY23.

My thought is that many Scozzafava supporters decided not to vote. Some are still voting for her. She has 5.4% of the vote after withdrawing. maybe some are supporting Owens since she endorced him also.

Still, it is a historical democrat district. Democrats 1923 to 1973 and 1979 to 1993. Republicans 1973 to 1979 and 1993 to 2009.

Much more time represented by democrats.

[George Gervin's Afro]

i like election nights...

[baseline bum]

Interesting if the Dems really do pull that seat out. I thought it was far more likely they'd hold on to NJ. I don't know what to think if they actually win NY23.

That association with Palin still remains a kiss of death for one's campaign?

[Wild Cobra]

That association with Palin still remains a kiss of death for one's campaign?

I think the kiss of death was the republican endorcing the democrat.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

That association with Palin still remains a kiss of death for one's campaign?

yep. a resounding 2.

[MannyIsGod]

That association with Palin still remains a kiss of death for one's campaign?

Actually Palin's endorsement helped Hoffman a lot.

[MannyIsGod]

My thought is that many Scozzafava supporters decided not to vote. Some are still voting for her. She has 5.4% of the vote after withdrawing. maybe some are supporting Owens since she endorced him also.

Still, it is a historical democrat district. Democrats 1923 to 1973 and 1979 to 1993. Republicans 1973 to 1979 and 1993 to 2009.

Much more time represented by democrats.

Thats some nice spin, but a look at the past 20 years of election coverage shows how much of a kick in the nuts this is to the GOP if a Democrat takes over.

I laugh just thinking about using your spin on the last congressional election.

[Wild Cobra]

Actually Palin's endorsement helped Hoffman a lot.

We agree there. I think Scozzafava being a vindictive , and endorcing Owens screwed it all up.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

and i was waiting for the spin on this lone victory later on in the news.


didn't have to go far.

mmmm.mmmmm. mmmmm.

[Wild Cobra]

Thats some nice spin, but a look at the past 20 years of election coverage shows how much of a kick in the nuts this is to the GOP if a Democrat takes over.

I laugh just thinking about using your spin on the last congressional election.

Spin?

I pulled out those statistics because much of the media has been spinning it as a republican stronghold. This district actually splits rather evenly on other races. Definately not a republican stronghold.

As for a kick in the nutz for the GOP. Fantastic. I love it. If those ers keep running liberals, they can rot in .

[MannyIsGod]

It IS a republican stronghold - that is the point. You trying to paint it as a liberal district is amazing. What happened early in the 20th century is completely irrelevant.

Look at the recent margins and the fact that Dems haven't won here in 20 years.

[spursncowboys]

The fact that two obama states govenors went conservative should be the news, not NY23.

[spursncowboys]

Did Corzine lose because he didn't distance himself with the President?
Does Obama have the kiss of death?

[MannyIsGod]

The fact that two obama states govenors went conservative should be the news, not NY23.

Why? Both are news worthy. Why do you believe one is greater than the other?

[MannyIsGod]

Did Corzine lose because he didn't distance himself with the President?
Does Obama have the kiss of death?

According to exit polls no on both accounts.

[balli]

The legs are still moving.

[Wild Cobra]

It IS a republican stronghold - that is the point. You trying to paint it as a liberal district is amazing. What happened early in the 20th century is completely irrelevant.

Look at the recent margins and the fact that Dems haven't won here in 20 years.

I wasn't painting it as a liberal district.

I found a link earlier that had the other races about evenly mixed. This 20 year stronghold was only since 1993, and because of two well liked individuals.

Where did you learn math, or did I lose a few years. Is it already 2012?

[MannyIsGod]

You got me WC, I suck at subtraction. But at least you acknowledged it was a stronghold of the GOP.

Was.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, now is the time for everyone to read way too much into three races.

Have at it.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Did Corzine lose because he didn't distance himself with the President?
Does Obama have the kiss of death?

not hardly. just one less than palin apparently. he better watch it.

[TheProfessor]

Did Corzine lose because he didn't distance himself with the President?
Does Obama have the kiss of death?

I don't think you know much about Corzine and New Jersey. He's awful and thoroughly corrupt.