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    Yelling "Allah Akbar!" and then opening fire on a large crowd was probably just caused by stress.


    Sincerely,

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    Suggesting that Islam caused it is just as simpleminded.

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    Why don't you bags go to the previous page and read my response to Dumpster? That's as clear and direct as I can possibly communicate.


    You only serve to reinforce my previous statement.

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    Should Muslims be singled out at airports simply for being Muslim?

    Yes!

    But pretty soon, technology will be available that will be available that can detect these people (regardless of ethnicity) and we won't have to do anything that will offend anyone.

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    Why don't you bags go to the previous page and read my response to Dumpster? That's as clear and direct as I can possibly communicate.
    Your reasoning there is elliptical too, though your inference is clear enough. I guess the closest you come to clear and direct is obvious innuendo.

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    Yes!

    But pretty soon, technology will be available that will be available that can detect these people (regardless of ethnicity) and we won't have to do anything that will offend anyone.
    fort hood is an airport?

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    Yes!

    But pretty soon, technology will be available that will be available that can detect these people (regardless of ethnicity) and we won't have to do anything that will offend anyone.
    Why couldn't you just stop at yes without all the stupidity that followed?

    Is that really as clear and direct as you can possibly communicate.?

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    But pretty soon, technology will be available that will be available that can detect these people
    a computer program to guess one's religion?

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    Your reasoning there is elliptical too, though your inference is clear enough. I guess the closest you come to clear and direct is obvious innuendo.
    What part of my post was unclear?


    An Islamic extremist committed an act of terrorism on a US military base.

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    fort hood is an airport?
    now, now...one "teachable moment" at a time. It'll probably take 2 more pages to drag out the answer to my original question.

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    Darrin started off by wondering if foreigners were somehow involved, and has ended by blaming Islam.

    He's a 21st century Know-Nothing.

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    a computer program to guess one's religion?
    =if(koran>=1,terrorist="true")

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    =if(koran>=1,terrorist="true")
    get the patent now, you're gonna be rich I tell ya!

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    What part of my post was unclear?
    It wasn't unclear but it was indirect. You clearly blame Islam per se, in the total absence of evidence that Major Hasan's religious practice was in any way extreme.

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    It wasn't unclear but it was indirect. You clearly blame Islam per se, in the total absence of evidence that Major Hasan's religious practice was in any way extreme.

    He has written on the Internet that he sympathizes with suicide bombers. He also yelled out "Allah Akbar!" and opened fire on a crowd of unarmed people.

    That seems pretty extreme.

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    Should Muslims be singled out at airports simply for being Muslim?
    Yes.


    See how easy that was.


    Muslims blow up, White dudes are Serial Killers, Black dudes like dat ass. It is what it is. No need to get butt hurt.

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    Any creed at all can be invoked to justify violence. Instead of blaming the kook, you blame the creed.

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    fort hood is not an airport.

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    Yes.


    See how easy that was.


    Muslims blow up, White dudes are Serial Killers, Black dudes like dat ass. It is what it is. No need to get butt hurt.
    The last couple of plane hijackings were committed by a Bolivian and a Jamaican repsecitvely.

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    Enlightened Americans -- at least those who trace their patriotism to Thomas Jefferson, a man fascinated by and respectful of Islam and whose library contained copies of the Koran -- should be unsettled by the rush to judgment regarding not just this one Muslim but all Muslims

    .....

    "I'm sad for those killed and wounded by a traitor to both God and our country, and I regret that I even feel that I have to write something on the subject. Words cannot express my emotions and the instant headache I received when notified by my dear sister Sheila Musaji over at The American Muslim (TAM) concerning the alleged culprit," wrote Salaam, who served in the Marine Corps, within minutes after learning the gunman's name. "They have not yet released further details such as the motive but I will state for the record that no true Muslim could ever commit such a crime against humanity. As Muslims we are reminded that to take one innocent life is as if one killed all of mankind. Muslims are also commanded to keep their oaths when given."

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    The Council on American-Islamic Relations, the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy group, issued a statement that read: "We condemn this cowardly attack in the strongest terms possible and ask that the perpetrators be punished to the full extent of the law. No religious or political ideology could ever justify or excuse such wanton and indiscriminate violence. The attack was particularly heinous in that it targeted the all-volunteer army that protects our nation. American Muslims stand with our fellow citizens in offering both prayers for the victims and sincere condolences to the families of those killed or injured."
    Salam Al-Marayati, executive director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, declared that, "Our entire organization extends its heartfelt condolences to the families of those killed as well as to those wounded and their loved ones. We stand in solidarity with law enforcement and the US military to maintain the safety and security of all Americans."



    http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebe...e_islamophobia

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    He has written on the Internet that he sympathizes with suicide bombers. He also yelled out "Allah Akbar!" and opened fire on a crowd of unarmed people.
    and once those su ions can be verified or supported, you'll probably see a shift in the reporting to include questions/conclusions/opinions about whether the shooting was an act of terrorism. for now, it's a little early to expect responsible journalists to call this anything but a tragic shooting.

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    Any creed at all can be invoked to justify violence. Instead of blaming the kook, you blame the creed.

    I don't blame the entire religion of Islam -- just the fraction of it that does ed up .

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    I don't blame the entire religion of Islam -- just the fraction of it that does ed up .
    But you do want every person who practices that religion to be singled out at airports.

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    soon after news of the ft. Hood shooting had reached the airwaves, the council on american islamic relations released a statement saying, "we condemn this cowardly attack in the strongest terms possible." the name of the alleged assailant, major malik nidal hasan, had necessitated a quick response from the group because of the fear that muslims as a whole would be assigned collective responsibility for the actions of one man whose religious affectations were, at that point, unknown. Some reporters began pontificating about the dangers of post-traumatic stress disorder, which was just as irresponsible.

    But cair's fears were sadly confirmed quite quickly, as john nichols wrote yesterday evening. mic e malkin, whose book in defense of internment advocated for the use of racial profiling against arabs and muslims, quickly recycled a 2003 column suggesting that there was something wrong with allowing muslims to serve in the armed forces. "political correctness is the handmaiden of terror," malkin tweeted. Don't you see? If we had just listened to her, and treated those people as enemies to begin with, this would never have happened. There are thousands of arab-americans serving in the armed forces, and many have given their lives defending this country -- malkin would have us see all of them as potential traitors.



    ...


    In the past few months, we've seen a number of shootings performed by white men with right-wing fringe beliefs. But while an attempt to assign the responsibility for the murder of george tiller, or the killing of police in pittsburgh, or the assault on the holocaust museum to white men as a whole would rightfully be seen as idiotic, there are those who sit poised and prepared assign the alleged actions of one man to an entire people. this is, quite frankly, the best reaction groups like al-qaeda could hope for: The strength of their narrative of a war between islam and the west ultimately rests on our own actions. We should not indulge them or those that share a similar worldview.


    http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/t...=better_angels

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    He has written on the Internet that he sympathizes with suicide bombers. He also yelled out "Allah Akbar!" and opened fire on a crowd of unarmed people.

    That seems pretty extreme.
    Do you have links to those writings?

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    But you do want every person who practices that religion to be singled out at airports.

    How do you distinguish the good ones from the ed up ones?


    This is where the new technology will come into play and we won't have to hurt anyones feeewings.

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