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Christians aren't a group of people. I also wouldn't include Muslims in a major religion category. But going up more recently, would be Abraham. With his son Isaac to the Jews and Christians and his other son Ismail to Muslims.
I understand about supercession of the Old Testament by the New. The tradition still includes Moses. A kook can focus on any part he wants to justify his aims. He's not limited by the doxa of the true believer, and never has been. This has been as true of Judaism and Christianity as it is of islam, historically speaking. Nobody's got the corner on violent zealotry.
Christians aren't a group of people. I also wouldn't include Muslims in a major religion category. But going up more recently, would be Abraham. With his son Isaac to the Jews and Christians and his other son Ismail to Muslims.
Yeah. Whether it is their culture or their religion. Islam is attacking the free world. No other religion is doing this with no condemnation of their fellow religious leaders.
How no?
Why not?
#2 worldwide, behind Christianity.
Not true.
No condemnation? This is surely false. You're not paying attention, SnC. Islam may not bless our wars, but it does condemn terrorists as un-Islamic. It's practically a ritual by now.No other religion is doing this with no condemnation of their fellow religious leaders.
Your right. Mi mal.
Is it still your contention that Islam's 1.5 billion adherents worldwide are at all war with us? That the creed, as such, is our enemy?
Yes you always see huge demonsrtations of muslims outraged by islamic terroriest acts.filling the streets of say...............Barump nevada,
There was a candlelight vigil in Tehran after 9/11, and not for the perished jihadists.
also Islam is a political movement and well as a religous movement.
All religions have political dimensions. The US Conference of Bishops lobbies against abortion? So what? What are you talking about? More Caliphate tinhat?
Yeah some of them may still be alive.Probablly the same guys that were in the streets for democracy that this regime ignored. Wow to dredge this small vigil up to prove your point is pathetic, when you compare it the mul udes across the muslim world that where dancing in the streets for joy on 9-11.There was a candlelight vigil in Tehran after 9/11, and not for the perished jihadists.
To have another Ottoman Empire, you'd need another Turkey behind it.
You forget. We had the whole world on our side, including the lion's share of Muslims and even the Iranians.
And we blew it. That's what's really pathetic.
Let's see when was the last time the Bishops I guess you mean by that the catholic bishops, sent out a fatwa to kill say an author, or anyone that was "heretical".
Yeah Islam just like a real religon huh.
what are you rambeling about
The Ottoman Empire wasn't a calaphate.
I guess the difference is between a political lobbying group like the Catholic Bishops, and a Government like Sharia, or the caliphate.
Didn't you read the link to Greenwald? Islam doesn't have a monopoly on this sort of thing.
From it's ing conception Islam was a political movement it was about gaining control of the trade center of Mecca
So? There is no considerable political power behind islamofascism, nor does it exist as a coherent movement in its own right. In order to become a political power, it would need a regional base and a political party. It has neither.
Christianity took over Europe and much of the Mediterranean. There's a materialist take on everything. Are you a historical materialist, micca?
Greenwald...Oh Greenwald.....Oh my God Greenwald.......There are plenty of people not named greenwald who disagree , and alot of of them are muslims, and a lot of them are muslim scholars, and muslim Imams, so when the leadership of this inane cult spout this crap to their millions or adoring followers, who am I to believe,..... them or....... "greenwald".
What inane cult? Which leaders?so when the leadership of this inane cult spout this crap to their millions or adoring followers, who am I to believe,..... them or....... "greenwald".
O>>> O>>>> O...It is 2009...Are you seriously suggesting that having survived the Catholic Churches Europe is now obliged under some politically correct insanity to once agian put up with terrorists.
Europe was attaked already by the muslim world's effort to conquer Europe and were stopped at the gates of vienna.This isn't the first attack the west has had to deal with
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