The Official Meltdown Thread

[jag]

Cavs are dealing with new guys like Jamario Moon, J.J Hickson gets some burn. They also have Shaq, a big addition, and he was out with some injuries. Delonte West was out for some time too. I don't see the Cavs sucking. Moving on.

Orlando Magic, a team that has added Vince Carter. Loses him to an injury a few games. Lewis had a 10 game suspension. They introduced Ryan Andersen, Matt Barnes, Brandon Bass. Now, Nelson is down again. Don't see them sucking either.

Guess I don't have to mention the Mavs.

haha

AGAIN, it's ridiculous to try to compare the respective situations of each team. No matter how much you try to find common ground...it just isn't rational.

[JustinJDW]

Awesome idea to make a Meltdown Thread.

Seriously though, I keep myself from getting too angry about Spurs losses. I am pissed for like five minutes, and then it's all good. We need Tony though. Many bandwagon fans in here. One minute, they want everyone traded, the next minute they love everyone.

I am happy about Duncan's and Jefferson's performance. They both shot 50% from the field. Duncan put up 21 points and Jefferson put up 16. That is nice. I am happy to see that Duncan can still be consistent and put up great numbers when his Team needs him, but we are missing our All-Star Backcourt, and we can't make that up. We can't "pick up the slack" on that. We just have to try our best with what we have, and I think we did that tonight, even though it didn't get us the W.

The officiating was pretty crappy too, but I am not going to hate on that.

Still though, we settle too much and take way too many 3-Pointers. Shooting 60% from the Free Throw Line is also pretty pathetic. Finley played too much too and sucked, but Parker and Ginobili were both out, so he had to play. I just wish he wasn't too inconsistent.

I certainly can't wait until Parker and Ginobili are back though, especially Parker. I miss having good penetration and consistent scoring. I take Parker for granted. I really hope he plays Saturday against the Wizards, or we are going to struggle again and possibly loose...again.

Anyway, I can't wait until Saturday when we play again. Regardless of we win or loose, I love seeing my Spurs play. I am a true Spurs Fan.

[mexicanjunior]

These losses are like ammo being loaded into a clip, waiting to be unloaded on the poor sob's we face in the coming months. The Spurs will regulate.

The more losses, the more shots they will be unloading on an already moved target...assuming they ever get their act together.

[FkLA]

Annual slow starts? In the past decade, at least throughout the 1st 10 games, we had a record of.500 or higher and were .800 in 2005/07.

Spurs usually just hover a few games over .500 the first month or so...far from dominant or from the team that goes into the playoffs. And those are normally injury-free starts for the Spurs, this year there have been some key injuries already which affects our record even more. Considering those two factors the record is not meltdown worthy. I can understand being frustrated and concerned at the injuries, but at the record? You actually expect the Spurs to be elite without Manu and Parker? Or without Parker and Duncan? This team is equipped to be a legit contender when healthy and going into the playoffs when things have hopefully come together, none of which are the case right now.

By the way last two games couldve gone either way, couple plays here and there and we're 6-4 and all you drama queens wouldnt be talking about rebuilding 10 games in. Instead it wouldve been 'we're unstoppable because we beat two good teams without Manu and Tony, just imagine how unstoppable we'll be when theyre back!!!' Funny what a huge difference a few plays make.

[Zero_Twilight]

The more losses, the more shots they will be unloading on an already moved target...assuming they ever get their act together.

Sorry, I fail to understand your logic.

[mytespurs]

It's not fun watching them play poorly, but keeping a level head and using some logic would do a lot of people good.

Too many people here get extremely high after insignificant wins....those same people drop way down after insignificant losses.

Agreed. And there are those who thought that the addition of richard jefferson and a at the time healthy manu/duncan automatically = 5th championship.

I'm frustrated but I'm not ready to throw in the towel.

[jag]

If they can't get healthy or form chemistry...there will be no playoffs. The more of these "insignificant" losses they give up, the closer to that reality they become.

Exactly....so why worry about losses such as these???

If they never get healthy then don't expect anything.

They aren't healthy right now...so why are you expecting so much?

Do you see the logic involved here?

Moves need to be made if this season is to be righted, the current roster is too injury prone and inconsistent to be counted on to flip the switch when it matters.

I'd like to see a trade made for a quality shotblocking big man (as Mahinmi has not worked out).

Aside from that, there are no moves that can be made to offset the health of Tony Parker, Manu, and Duncan. 3 out of the Spurs "Big Three" have a history of injury problems. At this point all you can do is hope that they manage to get healthy...and stay healthy.

[ulosturedge]

The mentality just isn't there right now. Where's the swagger?! They are playing scared and confused. Some guy on the radio this morning was talking about how he has been disappointed in the Fans in the lower level of the arena not getting into the game. I kind of saw that tonight. When the game got close at the end the crowd did nothing to pump up the team. It was like the crowd was scared too. I just don't see any belief from the players nor the fans. Its like we are all under a hex lol. Like everyone is expecting the worst. Something needs to light a fire under their asses. They look lifeless out there.

[ShoogarBear]

That's something to look forward to, a Mavs season.

[slayermin]

The offense is stagnant and predictable. Our team is loaded with offensive talent. But there is no floor leader. There is no flow. Without Manu, this team is going no where again. It's gonna be a long week.

[Morg1411]

It's early.

2/3 of the big three are absent.

You don't win les in November.

If this team can't find health and chemistry by January...then i'll have some issues.

+1 This.

Chill, people. It's frustrating, yes, but come on. Just. Chill.

[rayray2k8]

Officially checking myself into the mental ward... I mean meltdown... thread.

FUUUUUUUUUUCKKKK!!!

[Chieflion]

Spurs usually just hover a few games over .500 the first month or so...far from dominant or from the team that goes into the playoffs. And those are normally injury-free starts for the Spurs, this year there have been some key injuries already which affects our record even more. Considering those two factors the record is not meltdown worthy. I can understand being frustrated and concerned at the injuries, but at the record? You actually expect the Spurs to be elite without Manu and Parker? Or without Parker and Duncan? This team is equipped to be a legit contender when healthy and going into the playoffs when things have hopefully come together, none of which are the case right now.

By the way last two games couldve gone either way, couple plays here and there and we're 6-4 and all you drama queens wouldnt be talking about rebuilding 10 games in. Instead it wouldve been 'we're unstoppable because we beat two good teams without Manu and Tony, just imagine how unstoppable we'll be when theyre back!!!' Funny what a huge difference a few plays make.

Did you read my posts? I could care less if we were 6-4 or 4-6. I don't care about those fluke wins. The Spurs were climbing uphill the entire game and never looked like they were going to win. There has been no progress on chemistry and those chronic injuries, which team has won a championship with a core that has chronic injuries throughout the entire season.

[mexicanjunior]

Exactly....so why worry about losses such as these???

If they never get healthy then don't expect anything.

They aren't healthy right now...so why are you expecting so much?

Do you see the logic involved here?

I expect more because I feel Pop isn't utilizing what he has to best help this team win without Parker and Manu. Where is Hairston's opportunities? Why not give Ratliff more chances to help with the rebounding? The more Finley and Mason are used, the further back we become. We were struggling when Parker and Manu were still playing as well, so saying health is the cure all for this team is misguided in my opinion.

[jag]

Did you read my posts? I could care less if we were 6-4 or 4-6. I don't care about those fluke wins. The Spurs were climbing uphill the entire game and never looked like they were going to win. There has been no progress on chemistry and those chronic injuries, which team has won a championship with a core that has chronic injuries throughout the entire season.

Coming from someone who acted as if the Spurs had just won the LOB after they beat the Mavs last week.

If you are constantly on an emotional roller coaster after wins and losses, no one will ever take you serious because you will never truly be objective.

Half the people in this place can't be taken serious. Try not to be one of them.

[Chieflion]

haha

AGAIN, it's ridiculous to try to compare the respective situations of each team. No matter how much you try to find common ground...it just isn't rational.

I know. The Spurs are so different even when there are so many similarities. LOL Jefferson having a bigger role than Vince Carter in the Orlando Magic, LOL Shaq "only" 3rd option on the Cavs. LOL Shawn Marion on the Mavericks.

[mexicanjunior]

Sorry, I fail to understand your logic.

Then I guess your gun metaphor wasn't what I thought it was...

[jag]

I know. The Spurs are so different even when there are so many similarities. LOL Jefferson having a bigger role than Vince Carter in the Orlando Magic, LOL Shaq "only" 3rd option on the Cavs. LOL Shawn Marion on the Mavericks.

Coming from someone who acted as if the Spurs had just won the LOB after they beat the Mavs last week.

If you are constantly on an emotional roller coaster after wins and losses, no one will ever take you serious because you will never truly be objective.

Half the people in this place can't be taken serious. Try not to be one of them.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This is the low point (hopefully... *gulp*).

It really feels today as if the window has slammed shut, but that's not fair to the team. I'll start to worry if we're 10-20 after 30 games.

[Chieflion]

Coming from someone who acted as if the Spurs had just won the LOB after they beat the Mavs last week.

If you are constantly on an emotional roller coaster after wins and losses, no one will ever take you serious because you will never truly be objective.

Half the people in this place can't be taken serious. Try not to be one of them.

Was I acting like we won the ing LOB after we beat the Mavs without Tony and Duncan? I wasn't. Just stating what it is. Lets just say I finally got tired of the injuries the Spurs have suffered for the past few years.

[FkLA]

Did you read my posts? I could care less if we were 6-4 or 4-6. I don't care about those fluke wins. The Spurs were climbing uphill the entire game and never looked like they were going to win. There has been no progress on chemistry and those chronic injuries, which team has won a championship with a core that has chronic injuries throughout the entire season.

First off those two things go hand in hand, there will be no progress on chemistry if there are significant injuries. Secondly I understand your frustration about the injuries Im frustrated as well but talk about exaggeration...Parker has a sprained ankle and Manu a hamstring strain. How exactly are those chronic? Theyre minor and common injuries especially considering the style of play of both of these players.

[jag]

I expect more because I feel Pop isn't utilizing what he has to best help this team win without Parker and Manu. Where is Hairston's opportunities? Why not give Ratliff more chances to help with the rebounding? The more Finley and Mason are used, the further back we become.

What the does it matter if Ratliff gets 0mpg or 30mpg?? If Manu and Parker aren't healthy then it won't matter if Ratliff swats 5 shots and Hairston drops 8 points every game.

We were struggling when Parker and Manu were still playing as well, so saying health is the cure all for this team is misguided in my opinion.

I distinctly recall mention both health and chemistry as necessities if the Spurs plan on playing in June. They can't develop chemistry if they haven't had time to play together.

[mexicanjunior]

Spurs usually just hover a few games over .500 the first month or so...far from dominant or from the team that goes into the playoffs.

08-09: 5-5

07-08: 8-2

06-07 : 8-2 - won championship

05-06: 8-2

04-05 : 8-2 - won championship

03-04 : 5-5

We hovered around .500 twice in the last 6 years. The teams that won les started strong and ended strong...

[Chieflion]

First off those two things go hand in hand, there will be no progress on chemistry if there are significant injuries. Secondly I understand your frustration about the injuries Im frustrated as well but talk about exaggeration...Parker has a sprained ankle and Manu a hamstring strain. How exactly are those chronic? Theyre minor and common injuries especially considering the style of play of both of these players.

Didn't Parker just reaggravate his injury in the Thunder game. Manu also suffered a mild left groin injury. Manu has been injured for three straight years. Parker may have just joined his ride. The entire team looks like they don't want to play and looks like .

[jag]

Lets just say I finally got tired of the injuries the Spurs have suffered for the past few years.

That's fine that you're tired of it, but i assure you that being irrational and bringing bad takes doesn't bode well for your credibility.