Article: Popovich on Gasol deal

[Chieflion]

Your regrets are your own.

I was more of an advocate for VC to the Spurs, not Jefferson, ya but it has been a regret, he been playing well Cubby.

[namlook]

Jefferson is way overpaid, Gasol is not overpaid and has way more impact than Jefferson, you act like Jefferson is an all-star calibre player. He has not even been to a single all-star game.

A player who averaged 20 PPG over the past six seasons (as RJ did) is all-star caliber. If the Spurs had a passing PG like Kidd, Deron Williams or Chris Paul you would really see RJ shine.

Gasol had only made one all-star game in 7 seasons yet people cried like the Lakers got the second coming of Wilt. The fact is Gasol fit into the Lakers system like a glove so it looks like more of a steal than it was. It was the perfect piece the Lakers needed. Put Gasol on another team and he is a good big man who might a couple all-star games in his career and he would not have nearly the impact.

[mogrovejo]

The Lakers gave up capspaceKwame, Euroleague MVP Marc Gasol, Crittenton (a 17th overall pick who had excelled in summer league), and 2 future first rouders. Marc Gasol had proven worth, to what worth you compare it to Jefferson's worth is debatable. To sum up, that is 3 first round picks + a young but Euroleague MVP center + $9million in expiring money.

Marc Gasol last season in the Euroleague: 3.1 ppg, 1.3 rpg.

When the trade was made, Gasol was a guy who had to left Barcelona because he was buried at the end of the bench.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

lol jim rome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8

[mogrovejo]

MGasol + 2010 cap space + 2 first rounders > Jefferson/Gomes/Telfair.

LOL

What about Ratliff's $12M expiring, plus the first round picks including Minnesota's 2008 lottery one that ended up being OJ Mayo --> Kevin Love?!?

[Purple & Gold]

Marc Gasol last season in the Euroleague: 3.1 ppg, 1.3 rpg.

When the trade was made, Gasol was a guy who had to left Barcelona because he was buried at the end of the bench.

Actually he was Spanish League MVP. Not as impressive as Euroleague but still very impressive and a good indicator he was gonna be a good NBA player.

[mogrovejo]

Lakers fans mentioning how great it was for Memphis to get Kwame Brown's expiring and 2 late first round picks while forgetting to mention that Sota got a similar expiring in Rattlif plus first round picks including a top-3 one is very illustrative (and I don't believe they "forget" as in trying to make their argument stronger, they just aren't aware of things and they aren't even capable of reasoning that at least a huge expiring the Celtics were forced to send back due to the CBA rules... this kind of details are simply too deep to their minds). Lakers fans are the know-nothings of the NBA.

[mogrovejo]

Actually he was Spanish League MVP. Not as impressive as Euroleague but still very impressive and a good indicator he was gonna be a good NBA player.

At the moment of the trade, he wasn't. I can tell, I used to see him play almost every week by that time.

Still, what the Lakers fan claimed was that he was Euroleague MVP. More amazing, I can easily dig a same claim made by the Lakers fan in this same forum a couple of weeks ago that I corrected. Yet, Lakers fan is unable to learn. They got feed that MGasol was an Euroleague MVP and they'll keep repeating it till the end of their lives.

[mogrovejo]

Only a Lakers fan would convince himself that the reason Memphis did the trade was because they loved Marc Gasol. The Lakers would never trade Gasol's NBA rights for less than an All-Star. At least. Jesus Christ...

[cobbler]

lakerfan showing his IQ

comparing today's Marc Gasol in a trade that happened 2 years ago. 2 years ago Marc was an unproven euro with zero value.

So with your logic.... Charlotte made an outstanding trade getting a proven Vlade for an unproven Kobe.

Hate again with no vision. Go figure.

[Purple & Gold]

And celticfan is still concerned about Lakerfan. How about you go enjoy your teams success. Hopefully you guys make it out of the East cause you know the Lakeshow will be there and waiting. Lakers got a score to settle this year.

[Def Rowe]

Lakers fans mentioning how great it was for Memphis to get Kwame Brown's expiring and 2 late first round picks while forgetting to mention that Sota got a similar expiring in Rattlif plus first round picks including a top-3 one is very illustrative (and I don't believe they "forget" as in trying to make their argument stronger, they just aren't aware of things and they aren't even capable of reasoning that at least a huge expiring the Celtics were forced to send back due to the CBA rules... this kind of details are simply too deep to their minds). Lakers fans are the know-nothings of the NBA.

Which trade does Memphis do, hindsight being 20/20?

[mogrovejo]

LOL at Lakers fan pretending that Memphis wanted Marc Gasol NBA rights (they couldn't even be sure he'd agree to a contract!) the same way the Lakers wanted Kobe Bryant. Unbelievable.

[mogrovejo]

And celticfan is still concerned about Lakerfan. How about you go enjoy your teams success. Hopefully you guys make it out of the East cause you know the Lakeshow will be there and waiting. Lakers got a score to settle this year.

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[Purple & Gold]

At the moment of the trade, he wasn't. I can tell, I used to see him play almost every week by that time.

Check your dates again. He was tearing up the Spanish League at the moment of the trade. I know I used to watch him play almost every week too

[mogrovejo]

Check your dates again. He was tearing up the Spanish League at the moment of the trade. I know I used to watch him play almost every week too

You did? How? I don't need to check dates, the ACB MVP at the moment of the trade was Luis Scola. And why am I discussing with a Lakers fan? In a couple of weeks I'll read again that Marc Gasol was the Euroleague MVP when the Lakers traded him.

[Purple & Gold]

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You got anything older?? celtics got fat on the early days of the NBA. Still took it to the Lakers but the tide definitely changed in the 80's. The hiccup 2 years ago hurt, but the Lakeshow is still there. Will the celtics make it though or duck like they did in the 80's again?

[Purple & Gold]

You did? How? I don't need to check dates, the ACB MVP at the moment of the trade was Luis Scola.

At the moment of the trade he was tearing up the Spanish League and was already number one in the running for MVP. He won the MVP only a little after the trade but he was already tearing up the League and was MVP for the month of December if I remember. If you saw him play before the trade you know it was legit. And no he wasn't at Barcelona at the time of the trade. Which were the dates I was telling you to check.

[namlook]

I'm pretty sure the Grizz scouted Marc Gasol and knew he had potential to be good. NBA teams don't trade for players without checking them out.

[Dunc n Dave]

Jefferson is a "post scorer" that can barely shoot 50% for his career. That's pretty sad. A guy like Dirk shoots 47% and he lives on the perimeter.

So by your standards KG sucks, since he is not a career 50% shooter? And Duncan must be just above average since he shoots 50.8% for his career, compared to Jefferson's 50.2%? I guess they are all pathetic bigmen?

What's sad is your bull standards for being an elite post scorer. Marc Gasol has never been the focal point of an offense like Jefferson has, and never will. Gasol gets his scores off put backs and easy feeds 3 feet from the bucket to get his inflated percentages. He doesn't face double teams on a nightly basis like Jefferson, Garnett, and Duncan have. If he did, he'd be lucky to shoot 45%.

And whether he chases blocks or not (no one said he was the world's best 1 on 1 defender), doesn't change the fact that Jefferson averaged more blocks than Marc before the ACL tear took him out. Your "empty stats" claim is blowing up in your face. What "non-empty stat" is Marc so much better in than Jefferson other than FG%, which is a mis-leading stat anyway (see above).

And I've forgotten more basketball that you'll ever learn in your lifetime, which is obvious by your continued denial that the Pau trade was way more lopsided than the KG trade. Keep dreamin out there in La-La Land.

[mogrovejo]

At the moment of the trade he was tearing up the Spanish League and was already number one in the running for MVP. He won the MVP only a little after the trade but he was already tearing up the League and was MVP for the month of December if I remember. If you saw him play before the trade you know it was legit. And no he wasn't at Barcelona at the time of the trade. Which were the dates I was telling you to check.

Who said he was in Barcelona at the time of the trade? Geez, your screename could be IluvTimmie or DirkizGod and I'd still know you're a Lakers fans. You're not even able to read elementary things. I mean, if you guys are simply unaware that the Celtics sent a huge expiring and a top-3 lottery pick to Minny, I guess I shouldn't expect any different.

[mogrovejo]

I'm pretty sure the Grizz scouted Marc Gasol and knew he had potential to be good. NBA teams don't trade for players without checking them out.

I doubt it and immaterial. They could have traded an early 2nd round for his NBA rights if they liked him that much.

[ezau]

This again? It's been two years and one championship and people are still talking about the Gasol The-NBA-wants-to-make-the-Lakers-better trade? It's time to move on and seriously, the Celtics already showed the league how to beat this Gasol-amped Lakers two years ago. I don't see any reason why a topnotch defensive-minded team can't bring down this current version of the Lakers.

[mogrovejo]

Which trade does Memphis do, hindsight being 20/20?

What?

[Def Rowe]

What?

You were comparing Ratliff's expiring with Kwame's. What trade scenario would have been better for the Grizz that season?