How little they know

[Winehole23]

He'll say real life intruded, but it's a clear sidestep.

[Winehole23]

[Winehole23]

mogro clearly wanted us to to attempt to recap the homework he assigned to us in another thread, so he could criticize it authoritatively.

When asked to pose and answer the questions himself, mogro sometimes seems to falter a bit, as he did just upstream.

Maybe showing his own work is passe' for the profe.





At any rate, mogro has a very long list of citations that prove he is correct.

[mogrovejo]

A quick little nuts would suffice, just to give us a correct idea of what you're talking about.

Have pity on us: your style is not pellucid, Maestro.

I call upon your magnanimity to forgive this message board for not being on exactly the same page as you, and for being somewhat less well acquainted with your own hobby horses than you are yourself; and to answer my legitimate request for clarification of your post, just as you demand others do from time to time.

You know, the reciprocity thing. If you don't do what you ask of others, you can lose it.

Clarification from my post in a quick little nuts ? I didn't understand that's all you wanted. You asked what was the alternative to economic interventionism from the state, right? Well, it's non-interventionism. I thought you wanted me to expand on what non-interventionism, minimalist, classical liberalism style of government is. It's not the case then.

So, there's your answer, sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Winehole23]

Well, it's non-interventionism. I thought you wanted me to expand on what non-interventionism, minimalist, classical liberalism style of government is.

Thank you.

That's much clearer than a naked reference to Hayek.

[Winehole23]

I didn't understand that's all you wanted.

I don't believe I asked for any more.

If I start to comment on your understanding of what you think I want, I don't believe an infinite regress can be avoided. In the interest of crispness and topicality perhaps we can agree mutually to discuss it no more, eh? Of what possible interest could it be to anyone else?

[mogrovejo]

Yeah, we can settle that the alternative to state interventionism is non-interventionism and that you were ignorant of that.

[Winehole23]

Yeah, we can settle that the alternative to state interventionism is non-interventionism and that you were ignorant of that.

Perhaps your post was less than completely clear at the time.

[Winehole23]

Your prose style in English has, ahem, many infelicities, profe.

[mogrovejo]

Perhaps your post was less than completely clear at the time.

Which post?

[Winehole23]

You seem to count it a fault of intelligence that I did not read your mind, or finish your sentence for you. Perhaps a surfeit of self-regard led to this conclusion.

Perhaps you will respond to this post by quoting something you have already posted. Again.

I assure you, Sir, it would have been much easier to for me do so had you at some point finished clearing your throat and set about actually making your point.

[mogrovejo]

You seem to count it a fault of intelligence that I did not read your mind, or finish your sentence for you. Perhaps a surfeit of self-regard led to this conclusion.

Perhaps you will respond to this post by quoting something you have already posted. Again.

I assure you, Sir, it would have been much easier to for me do so had you at some point finished clearing your throat and set about actually making your point.

Sure, sure. So, which post? Which post of mine was less than completely clear?

[mogrovejo]

So, which post, ForumCop?

[ChumpDumper]

So,

What is your definition of recession?

[Winehole23]

Asked and answered, asshole. The naked reference to Hayek upstream.

[mogrovejo]

Asked and answered, asshole. The naked reference to Hayek upstream.

Why are you resorting to high-school insults? Isn't that kind of childish?

I thought I had read texts posted by yourself with a variety of references to Hayek. You mean not only you were unable to figure out by yourself that one alternative to interventionism is non-interventionism, you've also posted stuff you don't understand? You had no idea what Hayek, broadly speaking, stood for?

[Winehole23]

I thought I had read texts posted by yourself with a variety of references to Hayek. You mean not only you were unable to figure out by yourself that one alternative to interventionism is non-interventionism, you've also posted stuff you don't understand?

Forgive me. My own familiarity with Hayek is passing. I believe I have previously characterized it as being glancing, slight. Is that ok with you?

You had no idea what Hayek, broadly speaking, stood for?

Certainly I did. I just wanted to see what you would say for yourself. Given your pattern of sly and captious bantering, I was wary of being led into a trap. Can you blame me?

[Winehole23]

Why are you resorting to high-school insults? Isn't that kind of childish?

It's very irritating that you keep asking me to restate points I've already explicitly made.

It's the mr. magoo thing again. Obliviousness to cir stances.

[TeyshaBlue]

I think it will be especially challenging to call this recession due to the role global economics is playing in this one. We could very well, classically, recover from this whilst continuing to post double digit unemployement figures which illustrates the disconnect between the stock market and the rate of unemployment. Apparently, the global economy is not as dependent on U.S. consumption as was believed. On the other hand, there is no question that the staggering quan y of government cheese that Bush and then Obama pumped into the U.S. economy and international bond markets helped to restore confidence in the global economy. What's significant is that the U.S. economy is not leading the global recovery any more.

Huge S&P mainliners like Coca Cola are able to pad their weak domestic numbers with increasing volume of sales overseas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/business/22coke.html

[mogrovejo]

Forgive me. My own familiarity with Hayek is passing. I believe I have previously characterized it as being glancing, slight. Is that ok with you?

Certainly I did. I just wanted to see what you would say for yourself. Given your pattern of sly and captious bantering, I was wary of being led into a trap. Can you blame me?

I see. So you're familiar with Hayek, the concepts of non-interventionism, minimal government, etc. Yet, you asked what was the alternative to a government where politicians use others people money to fix the economy. I'm puzzled. What prompted that question of yours?

[Winehole23]

Which question? About the probable co-existence of socialism and capitalism?

[Winehole23]

Sheer ornery insistence on reality, I guess.

[Winehole23]

I live in the USA. Surely the USA is an example of what I was talking about.

[mogrovejo]

This one:

How else does one run a government?

[ChumpDumper]

Still no takers?

What is your definition of recession?