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    Visanthe Shiancoe has 10 td's
    Less than 500 yards though. Celek has 8 td's and almost 900 yards.

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    Moss definitely deserved it over Welker.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Can you really make a case for Asomugha? Look at the guys Revis shut down.
    This year? Nope.

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    Welker's been way more consistent. The dude has 122 catches and he friggin missed 2 games.

    If he played a full 16 game season he'd be on pace for 150 catches.
    Agreed. Wes Welker was the workhorse of the Patriots passing game this year and definitely deserved it over Moss. The guy just catches passes and doesn't complain like his more heralded receiving corps mate, Moss.

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    Aso still better.

    It's easy to have a nicer looking season in the secondary when your offense can score points and the front 7 can get some pressure. Aso doesnt have any of that, and still shuts his men down. Stick him on a good team, and the guy will be the best corner of all time.
    Sorry, as good as he's been--he's not going to be regarded as the best corner of all-time. Firstly, being the best all time is objective at the very least. Revis has been the best cornerback this year bar none. It will be his position to be top 5 CB for a long time to come. You can say because Nnamdi Asomugha has played longer he can be considered better, but this year belonged to Darelle Revis.

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    Aso got burned by Miles Austin, Revis shut down Moss twice. Enough said there.

    The only reason Moss has so many TDs is because Welker made all the catches to move the ball down there. Welker without a doubt.

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    I know the Bills don't really have much of a say only winning 5 games, but I think both Bills safeties shouldve been in. Byrd got in at FS, but George Wilson had a pretty good year for only starting 12 games.

    98 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF, 4 INT....not too bad for a former WR.

  8. #58
    IMO Welker & Marshall both deserved it over Moss & Vincent Jackson. Oh, and Moss has 13 TD's.

    Yeah I ed that up. In my head I was thinking he had 9 more TD's than Welker when I wrote that.

  9. #59
    And NE's run defense has been very good all year.

    22nd in the NFL.

  10. #60
    Revis shut down Moss twice.

    And Andre Johnson, probably his most impressive game.

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    He did get burned by Ginn tho...giving him his only TD of the season. I still have no idea how that happened.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    11th in the NFL. Given up 4 rushing TD's all season long, tied for best in the NFL with Minnesota.

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    11th in the NFL. Given up 4 rushing TD's all season long, tied for best in the NFL with Minnesota.

    They're 22nd in yards per carry (4.4, right next to Oakland). IMO, that's the most important rush defense stat.

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    Brandon Marshall - How he makes it over Moss and Vincent Jackson is beyond me
    Vincent Jackson is good, but he doesn't even have 75 catches. And he has a lot better QB throwing to him. But then again 21 of Marshall's catches came against a midget backup.





    Jared Allen - Will Smith got virtually the same numbers and didn't need two scrimmages against the Packers O-line to do so.
    But he got half of his sacks against the cheese Packers line! Goat!

  15. #65
    Then again right you're NE's run defense would be better if Wilfork was healthy all year. Now that I think about it, he's better than Casey fatass Hampton.

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    IMO Welker & Marshall both deserved it over Moss & Vincent Jackson. Oh, and Moss has 13 TD's.
    yeah Welker was obviously much more vital to that offense, Moss disappeared for stretches and just got a lot of touchdown tosses to keep his ego massaged, but Moss was quite the disappointment this year.

    and VJ, though he could have gotten better stats in a different system, doesn't deserve to be in over Marshall, Marshall basically carried that Denver offense.

    however, Rivers's deep ball is terrible, his average bomb to VJ is about 5 yards off. often times his throws are under or overthrown by 10 yards. If he could hit VJ deep, I'm sure VJ would have been in the Pro Bowl. frankly, I think VJ/Gates/Floyd/the screen pass make Rivers look like a better QB than he is.

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    calling Welker more vital to the offense. The only reason the middle of the field is always so open for Welker is because of the attention Moss draws from the safeties.

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    Rivers deep ball is terrible? He throws one of the best deep balls in the league. Everybody misses some but he gets the ball there as well as anyone. Sometimes the receiver doesn't run the route correctly and either hesitates, slows down, or breaks the route too much one way or another.

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    calling Welker more vital to the offense. The only reason the middle of the field is always so open for Welker is because of the attention Moss draws from the safeties.
    riiiiiiight. why don't you ask Brady who he would rather play without

    or wait until they don't resign Moss and watch Welker go for 10/100 no matter who the other WR is

    or just watch the games, welker could have 3 defenders keying on him and still get open, welker can't be covered when he's in sync with Brady

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    calling Welker more vital to the offense. The only reason the middle of the field is always so open for Welker is because of the attention Moss draws from the safeties.
    Moss is more important than Welker, but you can't deny Welker's production. Dude has brought it big time this year.

    And I think we all tried to erase from our memories what happened earlier in the year when Welker was out and Brady was forced to go to Joey Galloway instead.

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    Rivers deep ball is terrible? He throws one of the best deep balls in the league. Everybody misses some but he gets the ball there as well as anyone. Sometimes the receiver doesn't run the route correctly and either hesitates, slows down, or breaks the route too much one way or another.
    in the league? think about that man, start making a list:

    Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Schaub, other Manning, Favre, Warner, even guys like Roeth and Romo throw more accurate deep balls, and I haven't seen much of Flaco or that Atlanta QB, they might be on the list too

    pretty much every "franchise QB" throws a better deep ball than Rivers. Rivers is good because he always makes the right throw

  22. #72
    Moss is more important than Welker, but you can't deny Welker's production. Dude has brought it big time this year.

    And I think we all tried to erase from our memories what happened earlier in the year when Welker was out and Brady was forced to go to Joey Galloway instead.

    I'm not denying Welker has had a great year, my only point there is that Welker's production is largely due to Moss.

  23. #73
    welker could have 3 defenders keying on him and still get open

    This is based on what?

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    I'm not denying Welker has had a great year, my only point there is that Welker's production is largely due to Moss.
    you're not a pats fan are you? cause you're talking like a person who hasn't seen a single pats game this year

    you've got to be like a vikings fan or something, remembering the glory days of Moss, he's not that guy anymore

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    This is based on what?
    evens that have occurred in recent months, and were even filmed for all to see

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