West is a slightly better version of Drew Gooden. With the shooters we will lose this is a lateral move at best.
I was getting ready to say the same thing. West has better range but Gooden was a better rebounder and post player. I'd probably still do this trade but I think Mason is an underrated and under utilized Spur. Although he as been seeing more minutes lately.
True. Maybe he's having even more problems with his back now, and they want to get rid of him before it gets worse. This coincides with them being strapped financially. They do need to get rid of him.
I just can't see this happening via the Spurs. But, , look at what the Spurs did this summer. Shocked everybody.
You won't win a le relying on the shooters you will be giving up in this trade.
mason is playing lights out right now, if the spurs were to trade him or have doubts about being unable to resign him now would be a time to ship him. i love mason just as much as the next person and could live with him pulling up from 3 all game, but be serious now. he disappeared in the playoffs last year, he still plays below average defense and really isn't that much of a valuable asset to us.
david west would be a good fit here IMO. him next to duncan would work because he can still stretch the floor AND it gives us another player that can actually post up and score.. see the lakers. they can run the offense through bynum on one side and gasol on the other. that would be great for us.
if this were to happen i would actually want to try and keep fin around, but this isnt happening in the first place.
west is gonna get moved somewhere, NO is not gonna pay lux tax on a team that wont even make the playoffs this year. I would be shocked if they trade him to a division contender though. I would also hate to see Mason go...but if the front office thinks they wont be able to resign him this summer maybe they do this.
To finally be rid of Finley and Bonner + have a big to run alongside TD? YEA! I like it!
This would be an absolute no-brainer for the Spurs, but why would NO do it? His contract is pretty damn good for the level of production he gives ($9M this year, $8.3M next year, and a player option for $7.5M in 11-12). It's not like he's overpaid or anything. As much as NO wants to shed salary, why would they do it with someone worth what he's being paid? I can't see them moving West without the other team having to take the last 3 years of James Posey's deal too.
I've also noted that West's salary decreases in his remaining years and his contract expires in 2011/12, same as Tim's. I don't know if this is attractive to the Spurs but there could be a team that favors his decrease in salary.
Any guess as to whether the OP is Culburn369's troll though?
If there was any truth to this you would see a significant increase in play for either Haislip or Hairston as they would want to first prove they could man the back up SF position. Unless of course Bruce comes out of retirement. Gonna start a rumor you might as well start a big one.
As much as I don't care for West's personality, as a basketball player he's talented and is in his prime and he could put the spurs over the top. Key word there, "could".
Positives
1. This would move Blair back to the bench, where he'll be more effective. As a rookie, its going to be tough and I don't think he's up to that type of challenge yet.
2. West gives the starting unit a solid perimeter threat at the PF position. I believe West has a few post up moves as well. Better defender with more length at the PF than Blair. Solid upgrade all around.
Negatives
1. Lose 3pt shooting, depth, a few veteran locker room presence, and the corporate knowledge of those 3 players. Losing Roger would especially hurt this year, regardless of whether he's sticking around or not. He's been a big part of that bench success so far.
2. West has an ego. Which makes me nervous. He likes to shoot alot. Would that be a problem? His most recent game he scored 44 on 18-30. If he shoots almost 60% reguarily I guess the spurs could be accomodating.
Gut feeling: There is no question West is talented. But I think the ego thing could be a problem, esp if West doesn't get involved as much as he wants in the offense. There are already a limited # of touches for RJ which has been a problem. Adding West could potentially amplify this problem and create another.
I'm undecided right now.
Agreed.
It's possible that the Hornets move David West, but they wouldn't do it without getting comparable talent in return.
Even if they were thinking they would give away West for expirings. They could get that kind of a deal from a whole bunch of teams. They wouldn't do that within their division. They probably wouldn't do it within their conference.
Maybe put Ginobili into the mix and you might have something more realistic.
The Spurs need guys like Okafor, Haywood, or Camby
yeah it seems like this would be the fall back trade at the deadline if New Orleans absolutely can't move anybody else. Too soon to do this deal from a basketball business only perspective.
Agree with the 'no-brainer' and I understand the skepticism, but West might be their only movable significant contract:
Peja Stojakovic $13,392,000 (ETO)$14,256,000
James Posey $6,031,800 $6,478,600 $6,925,400
Morris Peterson $5,800,000 $6,200,000
Darius Songaila $4,526,000 (ETO)$4,818,000
I can't see them moving Okafor less than a year after acquiring him, so West makes sense; I don't see a team touching any of those other contracts unless some kind of bidding war ensues for West. And as we saw this summer, there aren't too many teams willing enough or in the right financial position to make such a move; the Spurs' all-in approach and desperation to capitalize in the here and now makes them one of the few.
West for expirings and a promotion for Hairston?
'Tis the season...
Great troll job nonetheless.
I kinda like this. West also has balls and at ude. Kinda what spurs need a little of right now.
I think West will be the bait they'll offer to get another team to take on Stojakovic's or Posey's contracts.
Nah, Okafor or Camby would be the only guys I would like, we have enough scoring we don't need someone to take the shots from RJ.
I agree that that's their hope, but the financial climate and marketplace doesn't set the stage for an abundance of potential suitors; West's contract could end up being their only way of shedding significant salary..
For those wanting Camby doesnt he expire this year though, so our expiring trash really wouldnt be as enticing to the Clips as it is to the Hornets...we shouldve jumped on that Camby deal last year.
I'll take West in a heartbeat.
This trade is a steal. Do it.
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