Phil Jackson: Kobe Is Right Up There with MJ

[namlook]

and not one of those quotes was said DIRECTLY TO THE MEDIA. Every player in the league es about their team privately. Not every player is a little got like Kobe who cries directly to the media and demands a trade.

LOL. You don't know who he said each of those statements to.

The fact remains, Jordan was a whining, crying, complaining when he played on bad teams.

[Rogue]

and not one of those quotes was said DIRECTLY TO THE MEDIA. Every player in the league es about their team privately. Not every player is a little got like Kobe who cries directly to the media and demands a trade.

sup mono.

[namlook]

Yes I do, you got every one of those quotes from The Jordan Rules, where Sam Smith was given permission to go into PRIVATE AREAS like team practices and team meetings. Not one of those quotes was from Jordan talking directly to the media.

You don't know where each of those quotes came from. Period. Sam Smith took information from everywhere, including Jordan's statements to the media.

[namlook]

Jordan whined and cried when he played on bad teams. Go back and read those quotes again. LOL.

I know what book the quotes came from but I'm saying Sam Smith used a lot of different sources for the quotes he published in his book and some of the sources for material for his book came from statements Jordan made to the media.

[23LeBronJames23]

namlook just made him self look dumber than tacker. If thats possible

[namlook]

Pippen did not have a better career than Hakeem but that's irrelevant to what I said. I said that many people felt Pippen was the best player in basketball for a period of time. That many people held Pippen in such high regard is a fact that cannot be disputed.

[namlook]

namlook just made him self look dumber than tacker. If thats possible

Yeah I'm dumber than a tack by posting facts. Haha. LOL. I have a graduate school degree and have been following basketball since the late 70's. Yeah I'm really dumb. LOL.

How about you? High school diploma? Yeah...that's what I thought.

[LakeShow]

namlook just made him self look dumber than tacker. If thats possible

I don't know how you can say that. We're obviously reading different threads. Namlook OWNED the out of this thread.

[LakeShow]

lol, rockets fan.

lol, mono

[Tacker]

Theres not one Great player who doesnt constantly get on his teammates to make sure they are doing what they're supposed to do, this is what separates great leaders from wannabe ones. For MJ to get on his teammates like this just shows how compe ive and how much leadership he has and how much he wants to win. This is why he is the greatest player to ever the game.

You think Kobe doesn't on his teammates? The other day on Sports Center they showed a clip of Kobe Bryant elbowing Sasha Vujaic and jawing at him during practice. They were about to get in a fight. So what if MJ gets on is teammates, thats what Great Leaders are supposed to do.

Didn't Kobe ask to be traded when he wasnt surrounded with good teammates back in the 07 season?

[LakeShow]

good comeback Rockets Fan

Give it up man. He already owned the out of you.

[resistanze]

I don't think Pippen was considered better than Robinson and Shaq, let alone Hakeem during Jordan's retirement.

[namlook]

It sure the can.

NOBODY thought Pippen was the best player in basketball EVER. and NOBODY thought he was better than Hakeem during Jordan's retirement.

Yes, It's true, many people thought Pippen was the best player after Jordan for a certain period of time. It's not that hard to understand why. The Bulls had won three rings and Hakeem hadn't won anything at the time. DOH!

[Mavs_man_41]

Give it up man. He already owned the out of you.

yeah, namlook sure owned the outta him, with his awesome pippen > the 2nd best player of the modern era takes

[namlook]

Theres not one Great player who doesnt constantly get on his teammates to make sure they are doing what they're supposed to do, this is what separates great leaders from wannabe ones. For MJ to get on his teammates like this just shows how compe ive and how much leadership he has and how much he wants to win. This is why he is the greatest player to ever the game.

You think Kobe doesn't on his teammates? The other day on Sports Center they showed a clip of Kobe Bryant elbowing Sasha Vujaic and jawing at him during practice. They were about to get in a fight. So what if MJ gets on is teammates, thats what Great Leaders are supposed to do.

It's a clear double standard though. When Jordan whines and gets on management and teammates he is showing leadership, when Kobe does it he's just whining. Jordan punched teammates in practice. Jordan was an asshole of a human being. Great player, but he was an asshole, he was self-absorbed, egotistical and a jerk. Go ahead and call Kobe that too if you want, but Jordan was the same way.

[namlook]

yeah, namlook sure owned the outta him, with his awesome pippen > the 2nd best player of the modern era takes

READING COMPREHENSION PEOPLE.

I didn't say Pippen was a better player than Hakeem. I said for a period of time many people felt Pippen was the best player in basketball. At that time Pippen and Jordan had won three rings and Hakeem had won nothing. After Hakeem won a couple rings those feelings changed.

[21_Blessings]

Pippen was top 5 or 3 in MVP voting the year after MJ retired. The Bulls were a bad call away from the ECF without Jordan.

[Iceman101]

I am stating a fact that I know to be true:

MANY PEOPLE FELT PIPPEN WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN BASKETBALL WHEN JORDAN RETIRED AND THE BULLS WON 55 GAMES. MANY PEOPLE ALSO FELT PIPPEN WAS THE SECOND BEST PLAYER IN BASKETBALL DURING SOME OF THE BULLS CHAMPIONSHIPS.

If you dispute that many people felt this way you either weren't following basketball at the time and you are speaking out of ignorance, or you are lying.

That doesn't make it true

[21_Blessings]

So you're saying that many people DIDN'T think he was the best player since he didn't win MVP. Thanks for stating the obvious.

No I'm saying Jordan won 6 les next to the greatest defensive shooting forward ever. A top 5 overall player in the NBA during that era.

Kobe would have won 6 with that Bulls roster.

[Iceman101]

No I'm saying Jordan won 6 les next to the greatest defensive shooting forward ever. A top 5 overall player in the NBA during that era.

Kobe would have won 6 with that Bulls roster.

You got your sarcasm working great for u

[namlook]

so you're talking about one offseason?

and I'd still like you to prove that "many people" thought this, because so far it's just you.

I'm saying that when Pippen and Jordan were winning rings and Pippen won 55 games leading the Bulls without Jordan that many people were calling Pippen the best player in basketball. He was playing at that high of a level.

[Iceman101]

Kobe models his game after MJ...When MJ came along he didn't have to model it after anybody, it just came natural to him

[j.dizzle]

this forum is in comedy..i wonder how many ppl here spend half their days arguing for & against kobe..pretty sad

[namlook]

That doesn't make it true

You're right, it doesn't make it true. It was only an opinion. I'm not saying that this was my opinion either. I'm saying Pippen was playing at such a high level in his prime, that many people felt this way.

[Tacker]

I'm saying that when Pippen and Jordan were winning rings and Pippen won 55 games leading the Bulls without Jordan that many people were calling Pippen the best player in basketball. He was playing at that high of a level.

Bull , I highly doubt that after one season and after all those les Jordan led them to and after all those years of Jordan Dynasty that people are stupid enough to all of a sudden slap the GOAT tag on Scottie Pippen...