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    i wonder if blair will grow a couple more inches...he's still young.

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    He probably will grow a few more inches...horizontally.

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    I know how much Kori enjoyed this when, in an effort to promote TallBall i did a Frankie Elson 20+ Spurs record in 2007. (It was like 20-2).

    Well, with the injuries to his beloved wife Michael and his mistress Matt Bonner, Lord Poppy has been virtually forced to give more minutes to the NBAs co leader in rebounds per minute, 60% shooting super rookie Dejuan "Grizzy" Blair.
    Besides the current 4 game winning streak (granted vs mostly patsies), the games in which Blair did play 20+, the Spurs are:
    8-2!!

    2 losses where in no way shape or form Blairs fault as he did 9-11 shooting with 11 boards to boot in only 22 minutes vs Boston as Moronovich limited his minutes.
    The other loss to Utah, Blair did 7-10 shooting and snapped down 9 boards (5 offensive) in only 21 minutes.

    If you want to drop it to 15 min per game, the record is 6-1.

    I'll let the board PopApologists do the math on Spurs record when Grizzly Blair is forced to sit and play less then 15 minutes. "I just don't know what to do with him" -Greg Popavich Nov 2009.
    of course we are 8 and 2 when blair gets 20+ min bc when a bench player gets significant min it usually means the starters were pulled bc the game was in the bag. im prety sure this is the case with blair

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    of course we are 8 and 2 when blair gets 20+ min bc when a bench player gets significant min it usually means the starters were pulled bc the game was in the bag. im prety sure this is the case with blair
    Could you actually start watching games? Do you have access to games on t.v.?
    Blair started plenty of these.

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    Could you actually start watching games? Do you have access to games on t.v.?
    Blair started plenty of these.
    It is not all Blair, the team as a whole has playef better...including Blair.

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    It is not all Blair, the team as a whole has playef better...including Blair.
    It's true.
    When FinleyBonner went out and Blair came in, the whole team started playing better. Pussy, 3 pt chucking stand around O and soft paint D vanished.

    101 to us basketball realists. A revelation to you Poppers.

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    There are guys who have been in the league for 3,4,5 years that don't have that understanding. To me, seeing the results of what he learned in two years of Big East play is the argument FOR college. Tall guys who come into the league have no clue how to play in the paint.
    +1
    See Ian Mahimi; if you can play the game it becomes apparent on the court. We got ourselves a player in Blair. Didn't take years for that to become apparent.

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    It's true.
    When FinleyBonner went out and Blair came in, the whole team started playing better. Pussy, 3 pt chucking stand around O and soft paint D vanished.

    101 to us basketball realists. A revelation to you Poppers.
    So Blair provides solid interior D? Basketball realists? Your questioning a coach who has lead the team to 4 les and the most wins of the last decade. Say what you want but what really puts me at ease is your opinion doesn't really matter nor will it change a thing.

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    So Blair provides solid interior D? Basketball realists? Your questioning a coach who has lead the team to 4 les and the most wins of the last decade. Say what you want but what really puts me at ease is your opinion doesn't really matter nor will it change a thing.
    Yes that's why you're responding to my post.

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    Yes that's why you're responding to my post.
    Ignorance...

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    Is Bliss for PopApologists.

    Go away. You Downers should stop attempting to rain on our Blair picnic.
    Surely there is a PollyAnna Popper thread you can find those of your ilk on.

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    9-2 as the Blairdog gets 26 minutes tonight and starts alongside Timmy Dunkar. (As he should).

    Spurs 112
    Detroit 92

    zero minutes for Mike Finley and Matt Bonner

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    Add another win!

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    Fabbs, you are too stubborn and dead set to even accept the possibility that the Spurs' play of late is more or less tied to Ginobili's resurgence; Mason's red hot shooting and ever increasing team chemistry (as would be expected the longer they become familiar with each other's games). Duncan's MVP-caliber play this season is a pretty big elephant in the living room as well... And here's a surprise... barring key injuries, the Spurs players will 'gel' even more and play better team ball as the season wears on; even as the opposition (the schedule) becomes more difficult. And especially during the long road trips...

    You're Pop hate is over the top...

    I agree, Blair has been amazing... he's got a great feel for the game, seems to be a fast learner, and has already shown more poise and character in his young NBA career, than many other NBA players...

    He deserves every minute he plays and more.

    You have to realize however that Bonner fills a very unique role and that your hate for him and Finley is not really justified. Sure, most here agree that Bonner shouldn't start for this team... to suggest that he's not needed at all, however, is rather myopic... especially when he has played fairly well from the bench this season... your incessant shtick is getting really, really annoying....

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    ^^^ Nice twist to everything I've posted but try to keep it real.
    Bonner 12th off the bench or earlier (situationally only) thus used properly is fine with me.
    You and Pop having him as a starter and doing 25 minutes (playoffs) is a joke.
    Ditto Findawg.
    Last two playoffs speak for themselves.

    Blair Duncan GNob and Mason make each other better.
    Never did say or imply it was all Blair, Twisty.

    Lots of posters ST who get it.

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    It was pointed out in the Detroit game how Blair has already exceeded what Kwame Brown has done his whole career. Not that it speaks volumes in Blair's situation but...it's a blessing that he fell into the Spur's lap.

    As the season progresses...I'm sure Blair will get better treatment from the officials as well if he continues to start. It seems that officiating sometimes is judged (fairly or not) according to a player's rotational standing on a team.

    That's not to say he's not getting better defensively. He is. But he's also learning faster than many in his position.

    If this keeps up...I don't see Bonner breaking into the starting lineup after he recovers from his injury. That should help quiet the Bonner haters. Which by the way I don't understand...until the emergence of Blair...the team hasn't had a "qualified" big to effectively start next to Duncan other than Bonner. It's not Bonner's fault that he isn't your protypical starting big.

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    ^^^ Nice twist to everything I've posted but try to keep it real.
    Bonner 12th off the bench or earlier (situationally only) thus used properly is fine with me.
    You and Pop having him as a starter and doing 25 minutes (playoffs) is a joke.
    Ditto Findawg.
    Last two playoffs speak for themselves.

    Blair Duncan GNob and Mason make each other better.
    Never did say or imply it was all Blair, Twisty.

    Lots of posters ST who get it.
    agree.....bonner is expendable and really not needed, but wouldn't hurt given few minutes. maybe like less than 10

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    ^^^ Nice twist to everything I've posted but try to keep it real.
    Bonner 12th off the bench or earlier (situationally only) thus used properly is fine with me.
    You and Pop having him as a starter and doing 25 minutes (playoffs) is a joke.
    Ditto Findawg.
    Last two playoffs speak for themselves.

    Blair Duncan GNob and Mason make each other better.
    Never did say or imply it was all Blair, Twisty.

    Lots of posters ST who get it.
    I twisted your premise??? That's laughable considering you've stated on many occasions that anytime Bonner steps on the floor he's receiving heavy minutes... How is my statement that Bonner fills a unique role, and better suited coming off the bench interpretted as suggesting that he should be playing 25 minutes a night??? Hyperbole much?

    If you do a search you'll actually find a couple of my posts suggesting that ideal usage for Bonner on this team (as currently cons uted) is around 14-16 mpg. So??? Pop is currently overusing your hated player by what? 4 minutes a game?? Geesh... the guy is playing lights out this year so he deserves to be benched for actually playing the way we thought he could? He's shooting 45% from beyond the arc (good enough for 6th in the league) and actually rebounding at a good clip.

    My ideal split this season... for front line minutes...
    Duncan's minutes should be restricted to ~28 mpg (save him for the playoffs)
    Blair ~22 mpg.
    Bonner ~16 mpg
    McDyess ~22 mpg (Same as Duncan, save him for the playoffs)
    Ratliff ~ 8 mpg (a couple of DNPs will allow Duncan to actually have games higher than 28 mpg but overall, we need to save Duncan's knees)...

    As for last season's playoffs; who else was going to play? We didn't have McDyess, Ratliff, Blair or Mahinmi? And Oberto had heart problems... Furthermore, if I'm not mistaken Kurt Thomas was averaging more minutes than Bonner in the series vs Dallas... until he strained his quads in Game 3. Having said that, I felt that Gooden should have played more (even if he didn't really know our playbook)... bottom line. Last season the Spurs weren't as deep or as athletic, Duncan was severely hobbled, and Ginobili (the only guy on the roster that other teams can't develop game plans for) didn't play a single minute...

    But in your eyes last season's 1st round loss came down to Pop playing Bonner and Finley... again, talk about myopia. Let me repeat it for ya. Last season the Spurs weren't as deep or as athletic, Duncan was severely hobbled, and Ginobili (the only guy on the roster that other teams can't develop game plans for) didn't play a single minute... Those are the reasons why the Spurs lost to Dallas last season.

    Many more posters here understood that much.

    Blair Duncan GNob and Mason make each other better.
    Also, it's funny that you would mention Mason in that group... by your standards he too sucked in last years playoffs... most here however, understood that his underachievement was a byproduct of having to play the point (excessively) which meant that he had no one creating for him (the role that he actually excels in)... Honestly, I don't hold that over his head. Pop's only mistake during last year's playoffs was not having played George Hill or Bowen enough... but even he admitted that much. Still you can look the other way for Mason, but not for Bonner? Again, your hate is rather unsubstantiated...
    Last edited by Phenomanul; 01-07-2010 at 02:23 PM.

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    10-2 and in such kick ass fashion that not even Cementovich could screw this one up, altho he certainly tried.

    Spurs 109
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    Grizzly Blair 28 pts 21 boards in only 31 minutes!!

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    i wonder if blair will grow a couple more inches...he's still young.


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    Blair does not promote tall ball.

    Nothing like being negative. Grizzly Blair promotes hustle which promotes WINS!!!

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    i wonder if blair will grow a couple more inches...he's still young.
    Some surgeons who have studied bones say that while most of us max out at 18 some do keep growing til 21.

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    It is not all Blair, the team as a whole has playef better...including Blair.

    Grizzly Blair's hustle is contagious!

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    11-4
    L Charlotte when Dumbassovich went smallballs again. 31 minutes 11 pts 16 boards (7 offensive)
    L Memphis Lakers 24 minutes 8 pts 8 boards. Coach StupidAss playing Blair half the time or less with Timmy Duncan. Jefferson on the other hand, 21 minutes 0-6 (0-4 treys) 1 fricking rebound.

    W Hornets 33 minutes 8 pts 13 boards (5 O). NumbnuttsOvich returned Blair to the starting lineup and Spurs bolted to a 29-16 1st qtr lead.

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    Fabbs is right and all the pop nuthuggers need to accept that fact that while YES he is a good coach and YES he has accomplished alot in the past, he is still a human being who DOES MAKE BONEHEAD decisions sometimes.

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