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The Bobcats are going to trade their 2 best players on a Larry Brown-coached team for Richard Jefferson and a project player in his 2nd season?..
I got 2 trades that would put us on top, first we trade Jefferson, Malik Hairston, and 1st round pick to the bobcats for Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace. The bobcats were shopping wallace around earlier in the season and I don't think Jackson is in their long term plans, so this is scenario isn't totally impossibly. If I were the spurs would even throw in splitters rights to make this deal happen, also the trade saves the bobcats money after next season.
Then after that I would trade Bonner, Finley, Mason, Mahinmi, and 2nd round pick to Philedelphia for Samuel Dalembert. I know everyone in Philedelphia thinks this guy is an underachiever, but he might just be in the wrong system. Philedelphia is an offensive minded team, while Dalembert's talent and skills are on the defensive side. Put him in San Antonio and he will flourish because the spurs will get the most out of his skills and he will be appreciated here for what he does best Block shots, rebound, and finish around the rim, thus making him a more motivated player. This trade is very possible, because Philedelphia has been looking all year for anyone to take him. But I wouldn't do this trade unless we did the trade above first. Both trades work salary wise and would give the spurs what they need defense, versatility, length, offensive creativity and athletism.
The Bobcats are going to trade their 2 best players on a Larry Brown-coached team for Richard Jefferson and a project player in his 2nd season?..
I would like to trade small ball for conventional ball and keep all the same players.
Jefferson, Hairston, and a crummy 1st round pick for the Bobcats 2 best players?? Larry Brown would break his hand slamming the phone after hearing that proposal. Not gonna happen.
Bon, Fin, Mason, Ian for Dalambert is more reasonable but that would leave the bench paper thin.
Would you send Mason and Ian for JR Smith?
What about Kevin Martin? there was rumor Dallas was trying to trade howard for him? Spencer Hawes isnt a bad Center just kinda slumping and Sacramento really likes brockman. Jason Thompson has been struggling too..but im sure he would be hard to get.
dude, my man, thanks for providing some great laughs before I head to bed
Last edited by ffadicted; 01-25-2010 at 01:05 AM.
it's funny that he wrote Wade AND Beasley, as if Wade wasn't enough LOL..
Any Spurs or trade rumors of any team you heard about recently?
The Iguodala-Dalembert trade, while it's my preference, I don't expect that one will even be discussed, much less consummated, but Camby, Haywood, etc. I fully expect the Spurs to, if not put on a full court press for, at least ask about.
Ultimately, this is what it comes down to and this is the question the front office has to ask themselves: even if we improve immensely, are we good enough, barring something unforeseen, to beat the Lakers in a playoff series? Duncan is obviously more than fine as the first big, McDyess is fine as the third big, but they still don't have that second big. The only other Spurs big who matches up with the Lakers front line is Ratliff, but I can't see him being a twenty minute plus player against them and being part of a three man big rotation. He should be the fourth guy, used for spot minutes.
I think I heard something about Haywood and the Nuggets. I got some information from RealGM but I need confirmation.
Honestly, you shouldn't take that "Haywood won't be dealt" headline very seriously. It came from a reporter in Denver's twitter feed, and he probably just got word that the low ball Nuggets offer's were rejected. What he should have written would be "Denver package for bigmen hopelessly inadequate; laughed off the phone".
Splitter is probably the deal breaker for Haywood (or Camby, for that matter). Yeah, the Spurs can offer expiring contracts, but so can other teams and those guys are already on expiring contracts to begin with, so forget that, that's not going to be considered value in either of these deals.
Here's what is value...
1st round pick: True, it likely won't be a high (or low, depending on how you look at it) pick, but it has value nonetheless, even if it ultimately probably falls somewhere in the low-mid twenties.
Mahinmi: Minimal, I know and he does fall into the expiring contract category as well, but because he has intriguing physical tools, is cheap and has no guaranteed money coming to him next year, he's a worthwhile project to take on.
Splitter: He, when paired with the 1st, has to intrigue teams. A young, big, skilled, relatively athletic player who should be an instant contributor next season and will likely play on a reasonable contract.
Maybe some other contender overpays, but think about it, which one of them is desperate A) for a starting quality big man and B) for the type the Spurs need? The Nuggets will probably end up getting a backup big, such as Foster or someone of that ilk. The others? The Mavs could use one, but I've yet to hear of them being interested in one. The Cavs are in the market for a stretch four, such as Jamison, Murphy, etc. Basically, I don't see an overwhelming amount of compe ion.
If you're the Spurs, the 1st isn't that big a deal, but Splitter, do you sacrifice him for an in his 30s upcoming free agent (one with durability issues)? I think it depends on if they believe he's coming over this summer, how much he contributes immediately and if he takes them up a notch as a team. Personally, I don't care if two-three years from now he's producing 12/8. Within' reason, the sole goal should be to get Duncan one for the thumb. If the Spurs can get Camby/Haywood to help them (theoretically) revert to being a contender for this year and next, then I'd probably do it. Having a young big like Blair should make Splitter somewhat more expendable.
Found another one.
NBA sources said the Washington Wizards had “light conversations” about sending center Brendan Haywood(notes) to the Portland Trail Blazers for guard Andre Miller(notes), but nothing is imminent. The transition of the Wizards’ ownership has complicated any changes the team is considering making to its roster. One NBA executive said Portland still hopes it can use Miller to net a center or small forward.However, according to Chris Tomasson's twitter account sources close to the situation expect Haywood to remain a Wizard throughout the rest of the season. Haywood, whose $6 million deal expires at the end of the year, is having one of the best seasons of his career with averages of 9 points and 10 rebounds. He'd be a nice short-term solution for the Blazers that could help them significantly in their playoff run while providing them with a mulligan of sorts for the Miller signing.
It might be absurd but it's possible, why? Wade will not be in Miami next season, their FO knows that and coach Erik is having problems with Beasley with his off-court antics and lack of motivation. I don't think any team is willing to offer anything better than Parker-Dice Knowing Beasley's Gooden-like at ude and the non-guarantee of Wade resigning. Unlikely, but possible.
So Miami would even think of trading Wade ???
It is reasonable, but I expect both teams to turn it down. Not sure why, just my thought. It may be because of Iggy because the 76ers value Iggy way higher than the Spurs. Iggy is a damn good passer too.
Pssh. They should. They're going nowhere this season. Might as well dump the bad contracts and tank.
Trade machine is a fun tool but making trades that make at least a little sense would be a good start.
I cannot see the Spurs doing that at all. That is wayyy to big of a move that has wayyy to many financial ramifications. Not to mention, I don't think the Spurs are that far off. I think they are a good ways, but not that much.
No way Spurs would do that.
Subs ute Dalembert for Brand and they probably would consider it then.
You subsi ute Brand for Dalembert, there is no way the 76ers take Jefferson's larger contract and Anotnio McDyess's contract. The main motive to move Iggy is if the 76ers think Thaddeus Young is good enough to step into Iggy's shoes and to remove Brand's contract.
76ers wouldn't be able to move Brand's contract period.
I have too much on my hands right now to respond to such a rebuttal.
But TD 21 explained it nicely:
Another 2 cents:
76ers would clear 12 million off the books for this summer and 14-15 million in the summer of 2011. Wise move for a team that's 2nd to last in the East and looking to rebuild. IMO
The 76ers would not have enough cap space to make a move in 2010, so there is no point in doing the trade anyway. I think they would rather watch Dalembert expire by himself and keep the better player in Iggy. That was why I thought the two teams were bad trading partners. Iggy is better off the 2nd option because of his creating abilities and slashing ability, no knock on Parker and Ginobili, but Iggy is really the underrated player of the NBA.
Last edited by Chieflion; 01-25-2010 at 08:03 PM.
Do your really think Spurs are going to take all these big contracts?
We both know the answer at that question.
And my post wasn't specifically directed at you. When there are some trade like Parker for Wade and Beasley...
What type of players do yall think the Spurs need? Do most people think the Spurs need a player the caliber of Amare or will Haywood or a Camby do? What about the lower end like a Collison or Joel Anthony?
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