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    You wanna know why this trade will never happen? Because it's getting media attention before anyone has even spoken of anything. Everyone knows the Spurs are only serious about trades/acquistions when no one knows anything. Just like the RJ trade, and signing McDyess.

    If anything is going to happen, none of us will ever know before the ball is actually dropped.

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    Everyone knows the Spurs are only serious about trades/acquistions when no one knows anything. Just like the RJ trade, and signing McDyess.
    The Spurs were in trade rumors for Jefferson during last seasons trade deadline so it wasn't a big surprise that they traded for him.

    Also, it was well known the Spurs have wanted Dice for a few years now.

    If anything is going to happen, none of us will ever know before the ball is actually dropped.
    Not really.

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    You might as well Kerr's wife while you're at it.
    and his daughters

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    Manu for him? eh. I mean. Well....nah.

    Outside of that, well, sure. But just like Jefferson looked good on paper...

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    Jefferson's contract means the Spurs would be selling a $8 mil a year talent for $15. Won't be many takers.

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    And we think the D sucks now...

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    Can we trade for health?

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    How 'bout the Suns' training staff?

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    Was that really a necessary comment?

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    Y'all have to look at the team and ask if this team is good enough as currently constructed.

    Manu's the most valuable trade piece because of his expiring and his talent.

    Due to RJ's cap straining contract, the Spurs are very near the CAP even before re-signing Manu. So the Spurs are stuck with

    1) Manu re-signs
    2) A trade involving Manu
    3) Manu walking to another team as a FA

    Outside of those 3; any other impact trade scenario is highly unlikely.

    I can understand you don't want to part with Manu.

    But are you cool riding with the Spurs as currently constructed this year AND next year?

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    Manu for him? eh. I mean. Well....nah.

    Outside of that, well, sure. But just like Jefferson looked good on paper...
    Would be a non-issue if the Spurs still had Scola

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    I can understand you don't want to part with Manu.

    But are you cool riding with the Spurs as currently constructed this year AND next year?
    Thanks for ting all over the liquor bar.......

    But you're absolutely right unfortunately. It's Manu saddling up or nothing. We've got nothing anyone wants besides him (for a major piece that is).

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    Would be a non-issue if the Spurs still had Scola
    Isn't he a UFA next year?

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    Antonio's house in SA while with the Spurs wasn't even close to being the biggest in SA, it was a modest McMansion type home. He was building his current 10,000 sq. ft. home when he was traded. His current home isn't the biggest in SA either.
    Correction noted. So you're saying his house is small.

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    I highly doubt any significant trade happens. I think the most likely trades are salary dumps. I know that does not coincide with the seemingly new FO logic, but that is what my gut tells me.

    With regards to Xylus, he overrates Amare's trade value. No one is going to give up a ton to get a rental. Like Bruno said, if they are done with Amare, some expirings plus a good young piece should be enough because if they get under the cap it is an 11M dollar swing, plus they get to rebuild with the young piece.

    If the Spurs could negotiate an extension with Amare, sure you try and make this deal, but I doubt it. The Spurs, if they gave up Manu, would be sorely lacking play makers on the perimeter.

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    Thanks for ting all over the liquor bar.......

    But you're absolutely right unfortunately. It's Manu saddling up or nothing. We've got nothing anyone wants besides him (for a major piece that is).
    Sorry man.

    On a lighter note, superb 1st picture in your sig...unreal

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    Thoms is way better than Ian. No comparison. He is an athletic power forward that blocks shots. He did pretty good in the playoffs last year. I'm not a huge fan of his game, but I think he is a worthy gamble of Ian and Bonner.

    At worst, he does nothing and we are back where we started sans the trade Bonner threads. At best, he actually contributes to our aging front line.

    We still need someone to hound wing and guard scorers. Hill is getting in the mold, but we need to add someone else as well.
    Thomas is way better than Ian..is that comparison based on all the minutes we've actually seen Ian play in the NBA? Not sure how to say for sure since Ian has never had an opportunity. They're both athletic unproven tall players. Sounds like they would fill the same need. It seems crazy to trade for Thomas before actually seeing what we have with Ian. Ian already knows the defense and seems like a solid person. Thomas woul not learn the system in time and seems like a problem player c

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    My main concern about this is, how will he react without Nash being able to give him the ball.

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    Thomas is way better than Ian..is that comparison based on all the minutes we've actually seen Ian play in the NBA? Not sure how to say for sure since Ian has never had an opportunity. They're both athletic unproven tall players. Sounds like they would fill the same need. It seems crazy to trade for Thomas before actually seeing what we have with Ian. Ian already knows the defense and seems like a solid person. Thomas woul not learn the system in time and seems like a problem player c
    I base it on the several times in summer league that he has played and shown himself to be foul prone and a player with no post game.

    Thomas did his damage on the big stage: NBA playoffs against the defending champion Celtics. I think Thomas has way more upside than he is currently showing. Ian, I just don't think he is near as talented. Sure I haven't seen him play big minutes, but there's a reason for that.

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    So what's the reason? Pop is infallible?

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    Pop didn't even want to play Blair.

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    What we need is for Houston to continue their own losing streak. If that happens, they might be willing to make a trade to help shore up the height of their front line for next year. At that point a Scola + Splitter reunion might seem enticing to them, Splitter being a legit seven footer to back up a broken down Yao.

    Finley (or Bonner) + rights to Splitter for Shane Battier

    That's a trade that would help both parties....

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    What we need is for Houston to continue their own losing streak. If that happens, they might be willing to make a trade to help shore up the height of their front line for next year. At that point a Scola + Splitter reunion might seem enticing to them, Splitter being a legit seven footer to back up a broken down Yao.

    Finley (or Bonner) + rights to Splitter for Shane Battier

    That's a trade that would help both parties....
    Wow, Lets give the rockets a starting future center to go with scola for battier who is overpaid. Great plan

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    amare could suck pretty bad w/o a good pass-first point guard (hint hint nash), that said, i don't see him a good fit in SA.

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    With regards to Xylus, he overrates Amare's trade value. No one is going to give up a ton to get a rental. Like Bruno said, if they are done with Amare, some expirings plus a good young piece should be enough because if they get under the cap it is an 11M dollar swing, plus they get to rebuild with the young piece.
    I don't think I'm overrating his trade value by saying that the Spurs don't really have what the Suns are looking for, besides the fact that the Suns would never trade a player of Amare's caliber to a Western Conference rival.

    Also, I don't think I'm overrating his trade value by saying he's a very large improvement over Yi Jianlian. I mean, seriously. Amare generally averages 21 and 9 while shooting 55%. Compare that to tissue-soft Yi, who averages 15 and 7 on 42% shooting, while playing the same minutes. It's laughable to even compare the two players. Regardless of what general Spurfan bias might dictate, Yi is a worse defender than Amare Stoudemire.
    The Suns' primary weakness on the defensive end these past couple of years has been on the perimeter. Nash and JRich can't defend worth a , and Grant Hill is too old.

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