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The Suns lack both good defensive fundamentals AND athleticism. The Spurs don't lack defense both athletic players torch them.
He was born in France, because his father was stationed there while being in the U.S. Air Force.
The Suns lack both good defensive fundamentals AND athleticism. The Spurs don't lack defense both athletic players torch them.
It doesn't matter if Ben Wallace was athletic or not. Has nothing to do with my point. Obviously there are athletic defenders, and there are relatively non-athletic defenders. Athleticism isn't important in being a great defender.
at that offensive foul call on Dirk
lol honestly amare is no all star w/o nash
Didn't see that offensive foul on Dirk.
Xylus i know what you mean but jumping high and running fast isnt the only athelticism ...
Hayes sliding his feet to take a charge ....
bowen smacking a shooter on the elbow before th ref can see it ...
Battier face gaurding Kobe on a jumper withhout fouling that requires athelticism and skill
And defense requires great anticpation cuz the offensive player knows where they are going those guys have to beat them to it
Wallace is a great athlete Battier a good Raja a preety good athlete as well ...
Bowen not but he had quick feet that is athletic ...
Ben Wallace is VERY ATHLETIC. Trust me. The guy is one of the fastest and highest flying big men in recent years.
His problem has always been offensive skills, not athleticism.
But I will agree with you. To be a great defender you don't necessarily have to be athletic. But having athleticism will always help.
Maybe not being extremely athletic but having better lateral quickness than Jared Dudley is. Dudley hustles his ass off but isn't a lock down defender because of the quickness he gives up to the players he guards.
Already? Damn
My point is that a team as unathletic as Phoenix will never be good defensively.
Obviously all NBA players have some level of athleticism. They're some of the best players in the world. Athleticism is relative in the NBA. Lebron is super athletic. Chris Kaman isn't.
You guys talk about Amare like he should be naturally great at defense since he's amazingly athletic. It takes brains and motivation to be a good defender. I've played against so many guys who were more athletic than I was, but played matador defense. Conversely, I've played against guys shorter, slower, fatter, and much less athletic, and they kept me in check.
but it helps Xylus ...
scottie was a great defender because of his atleticism
Rodman in his pistons days as well..
Mike Cooper
normally the best defenders were good to geat athletes
Kobe when he wants to be ...
KG all
Look at the Last 10 DPOY many are great athletes a few: Artest for example are just good athletes but have great feet and or hands
Barea you
This is something I agree with. Athleticism doesn't = good defense, Amare lacks the natural bball IQ to ever be an elite defender.
Agree with that ...BUT as a coach I would first take somone who is comitted to defense ...over just an athlete ...but if an athlete is willing to give the effort your defense is sooo much better ...especially in a team scheme or to shut down a great player
Can pho more after every time they foul Dirk
Athleticism can give you an advantage, but defense is still 80% effort and IQ. The other 20% can be athleticism.
Dirk gettin da star treatment
you can still be a good team defender but that is only the case if all 5 guys on D are committed with help side D, etc and that isnt possible with guys like Amare on your team
This is just a ft shooting contest betweenn Dirk and Amare
Nash is way worse of a team defender than Amare will ever be.
OMG did JJ just make a defensive play?
If was building a dream defense for right now ...
PG Rondo (but no gambling)
SG Kobe (ditto)
SF Battier
PF Healthy KG if not Josh smith
C Howard
That team is SUPER athletic Except Battier but he is pretty good athlete ...
That team even with the lack of offense would destroy folks ESPECIALLY if rondo develops a jumper and Howard a post game
Pop or thibadeaux would be my coach or Larry Brown ...
wow JJ
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