This is ASB news of the last couple of days. As you and alchemist mentioned, Pau/Bynum don't play well together.
So, the news broke yesterday that the Lakers are probably sending Bynum to the bench and Odom to start.
Odom and Gasol is a much more effective combo than Pau+Bynum. And Bynum and Odom is very effective too so it makes sense that the Lakers are moving Bynum to the bench.
well either way if the Spurs could have an option like Thomas an athletic PF that could stay with Odom that would help neutralize one of the Lakers weapons.
right now with the Thomas/Salmons trade in my opinion Salmons would help more because he would bring stability to the SG/SF spot and is a playmaker, and when he gets on a hot streak he is hard to stop
yes he wouldWord this weekend is that Bynum is getting shifted to the bench to solve the Gasol/Bynum problem. They both play great apart from each other.
If that's the case, Gasol+Odom to start against Duncan/Dice?
Kareemshaqwilt jr off the bench would probably put up 20/10 on Bonner or Tyrus Thomas
and it hard to judge Thomas this year against Odom because he did not play in either game due to injury I think
I think this is the trade to go for TT and Salmons for expiring contracts. I'm not sure about adding either a first round pick or Splitter though to get it done, but I would definitely still think about adding extra if the trade requires it.
Iggy and Dalembert is next on my list.
I definitely think Mahinmi/Mason/Finley/Bonner For Ty and Salmons is a no brainer. This years pick can't be traded, and I think of the two, the 2011 pick is more valuable to the Bulls as it wouldn't affect their 2010 cap space in the way signing Splitter to a $4 mill a year type deal would. There aren't a lot of available centres that could be gotten easily that can do the job. Foster's injured, Haywood's gone, Nazr is part of Charlotte run. Then the other Centres available(or potentially available) are either too expensive(Dalembert, Unless it was for RJ), poor man defenders(Camby is great at help D, but his post play is suspect) or have long contracts like Biedrins. While I like Biedrins, I understand not wanting to commit to the last 5 years of his deal. The best available/conceivable possible deal is probably Thomas and Salmons for the Bonner/Ian/Finley/Mason platter, especially if there is some desire to keep some flexibility and keep 2011 space open(Which would rule out Biedrins, Maggette and Iggy), and Ty/Salmons gives us options and different looks defending against Denver(Salmons and Ty on Melo), LAL(Salmons on Kobe&Artest Ty on Artest/Odom and gives a different type of guy on Gasol), Dallas(On Butler, Ty on Dirk). They gives us that option. We're still a bit weak against Centres, but Tim can do Interior defense and this improves the Small Ball PF position significantly. Though We'd need to pick up a waiver wire shooter.
Blair/Dyess
Tim/Ty Thomas
Jefferson/Salmons
Salmons/Manu
Parker/Hill
as the playoff rotation, With Ratliff, Bogans and Hairston/Waiver Deadline shooter playing spot minutes.
Not perfect, but probably the best we can do.
I really dont see a Ty Thomas and J Salmons trade helping us that much...but I suppose we must try something. Although, I dont believe we will. I believe the team although a year older, will be better next year. Despite our cap situation I believe we will make signifigant alterations in the offseason. Well, at least I hope. it..If the Spurs ship sinks, I know I can swim...for as long as it takes.
just 4 more days until we find out if Salmons, Thomas, or any player will be a Spur. I hope there's a trade. With the Mavs doing a trade and possibly the Cavs, we need to try to see if we can get anything.
The Cavs are close to a deal with the Suns. Amare foe Zek. If Amare couldn't play with Shaq at first, what's gonna change with the Cavs?
I don't know bout giving up JJ for Amare though. He's young an plays better defense already. The Suns goona be nice in yrs to come with that young talent.
I really hope we pull off some sort of trade. After the Mavs trade, we certainly need a trade if we have any chance of making some noise in the playoffs. If there's no trade, this team may struggle to even make the playoffs imho.
If Bynum gets benched in favor of Odom you can believe he's going to go into full sulk and disinterested mode. Enough so PJ has no choice but to bring him back to the starting lineup.Word this weekend is that Bynum is getting shifted to the bench to solve the Gasol/Bynum problem. They both play great apart from each other.
If that's the case, Gasol+Odom to start against Duncan/Dice?
Kareemshaqwilt jr off the bench would probably put up 20/10 on Bonner or Tyrus Thomas
Spurs FO won't make a trade to "make noise" or as a response to any team but the benchmark, LA.
If the Spurs think that adding a guy like Thomas puts them in a position to legitimately contend, then they'll make the deal. If not, then they'll stand pat, hope for health and a second-half surge from their new additions.
For the record, Thomas is 215 and Bynum is 272.
This used to be my mentality to and while I still maintain that the Spurs need another center-sized player, the reality is they need a mobile power forward probably just as much. Thomas can theoretically guard Nowitzki, Odom, Aldridge, etc. These are the types of players who kill the Spurs.
Bynum? As much as I'd like to have another big to deal with the remaining true centers left, the reality is Duncan is a center at this point in his career and (particularly in the playoffs) he'll play the majority of the minutes and far more often than not, the Spurs will win that match-up.
The biggest problem with losing Bonner and Mason is that they are the best 3 pt. shooters on the team. Salmons is a decent 3 pt. shooter but not good enough to balance out the loss of Bonner and Mason. If this trade goes down, Hill, Salmons, and Manu become the best shooters on the team. This team would have to undergo a major iden y change and I don't think Pop wants that to happen. I don't really think a trade is gonna happen unless it involves RJ and either Mason or Bonner. I think Pop will want to keep one of those guys (probably Bonner). So RJ, Mason, and Finley are probably the guys that the FO is shopping.
There really isn't a move out there that would help us win it all THIS year. If we are going to make a trade, make it with the next 2 or 3 years in mind.
The loss in three point shooting isn't going to hurt us as much as you think. Mason has been woefully inconsistent and has spent more time in Pops doghouse then out of it. Over the last 15 games, he is only 19-53 from distance. Bonner is effective as a deep threat, but his physical limitations on the other end tend to offset that.
With Salmons we get a player that is not only just a good of a shooter, but a far better defender, ball handler and play maker. Thomas can't shoot the three, but he has a much improved jump shot and the things he will bring with his defense will help more than the loss of shooting will hurt. So in reality we only lose one three point shooter but get much better athletically and defensively.
If Thomas/Salmons for Bonner/Mason/Finley is on the table, then the Spurs should make the trade. The real questions are whether a package of expiring contracts will be enough to make that trade happen and how much should the Spurs be willing to add? I'd be very reluctant to part with a first rounder or the rights to Splitter to get this deal done.
While it doesn't affect my opinion on the trade, calling TT's jump shot much improved is technically true in the sense that he no longer one of the five worst jump shooters in the NBA, but he still makes less than 38% of his jump shots.
Will Bynum be healthy for the playoffs?
Tim would defend Bynum and TT would defend Pau.
timmy defending pau is better than TT guarding him....coz in the last game with the lakers, when timmy was guardin pau...pau was kinda strugglin to make shots...
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtop...6606&start=105David Aldridge said that 3 teams, Houston Portland and Denver, are all trying to get Thomas. In fact, he said Denver is REALLY after Tyrus.
big bigs to be had.
Brezec 7-1 255
Curry 7-0 295
Diop 7-0 280
Gray 7-0 270
Milicic 7-0 275
Pachulia 6-11 275
I have the same reservations about a pick/Splitter...but I think only Splitter would be a deal breaker. Giving away the rights to Splitter in a trade that is already a little questionable from a fruit standpoint has Scola 2.0 written all over it. If I was calling the shots and Chicago was saying they absolutely had to have a pick to do the deal I'd probably go ahead and do it.
Yeah...Thomas' jump shot is certainly not close to Dice automatic, but I think it's probably good enough to keep teams from just leaving him out there wide open. The Spurs need for a long mobile forward like him to help even out match ups with Dirks and Paus is greater than Thomas' iffy jumper IMO.
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