So maybe the Spurs would have to take on Salmons, after all . . .
Wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit, but it might be a deal-breaker for the Spurs.
Thomas is a strong defender that can hold his own in the paint. I recently watched him guard Dwight Howard 1 vs 1 and he not only held his ground (Howard couldn't back him down at all) he forced Howard into a turnover.
In addition, he only looked an inch shorter than Howard. So I'm guessing he has grown taller from his draft day height of 6'8"
Get it done RC!
He's not a great on-ball defender, despite a good possession or two you saw against Howard. He's spectacular, at times, as a weakside defender and has great versatility out on the floor hedging, switching and disrupting a halfcourt offense, though -- Tim is, and has to be, the Spurs' resident 7-foot shotblocker everyone's been clamoring for.
He's 6-9, at best, in the right pair of shoes, but his length (greater wingspan than Blair) and explosive athleticism are more important than an inch or so of height -- you don't block or rebound a shot with your head, as Sean likes to say.
If Spurs have trades on the table for both Thomas and Haslem, I rather see them going after Haslem.
I'd go Thomas -- more upside, more versatility and not as duplicative to 'Dyess.
I see your point, but I also think it would be Haslem. he has written Spurs material all over him. and I think he would help more immediately. he is what Dice was five years ago and Dice from 5 years back is what the Spurs needed when they acquired the Dice from today.
I'm just not sold on Haslem being that huge of an upgrade or improving their chances all that much this year (I really don't see any of these moves discussed as being championship aspirational), so I tend to side with the youth and upside.
I would be a lot happier with Haslem if we could somehow get Wright in the deal, although that's probably unrealistic..I wouldn't really like Haslem all that much by himself, it still doesn't solve our athleticism issues up front, unless Pop has an epiphany about Ian..
This. TT at least gives us an answer for players like odom, david west, dirk, and other mobile pfs. Something we have been lacking for far too long.
I'm not completely sold on getting Haslem, but these are the types of players he defends too..
hmm...Only 29, I thought he was much older.
He was undrafted in 2003 (same class as Wade, Lebron, Bosh, etc.), but unlike most of the others, he stayed at Florida for all 4 years.
Haslem would be a better, more solid option for the here and now. But I suppose what you think that means for the Spurs, in the grand scheme of things, sways the thinking deciding between the two.
I don't believe Haslem changes the outcome for this year all that much, and unless they'd rather have him than 'Dyess moving forward, I'd rather take a shot on Thomas.
Exactly. We've seen the results of watching Dice chase the likes of LaMarcus Aldridge, Kenyon Martin, Jeff Green, Lamar Odom and Dirk - and the results were not favorable at all.
Blackjack, you have it correct. The Spurs do not need more older, +30 frontline players. They need more younger, versatile players with upside - and they need to put them on the floor.
if it involves dumping a 1st for either of these 1-year rentals (plus a QO for TT), then I'd rather the Spurs look elsewhere
Would you guys rather have Haslem and Wright or Thomas and Salmons?
Again, while I'm not completely sold on getting Haslem, he DOES defend those PFs that we have trouble with..
Tyrus would make a whole lot more sense, IMO as well. Nothing I have against Haslem, but Haslem has a very similar game to that of McDyess (difference being Haslem is a few years younger).
TT at least brings a different package to the Spurs regular rotation in which they need - athleticism in the frontcourt, along w/ better weak-side defense.
Of course Haslem is more of an assurance move, in a sense of his at ude compared to Thomas.
Wasn't it Harrington that was thought to be in play with Chicago prior?
Thomas and Salmons.
It's an easy choice IMO - Thomas and Salmons.
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The latter -- I prefer Thomas to Haslem (given skillset and upside) and Salmons to Wright (better insurance for RJ's play -- possibly Manu's departure), even if I do prefer Dorell to Johnny defensively.
Thomas and Salmons still, in my view, best addresses the team's needs in the here-and-now, while maintaining an eye towards the future.
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So do they maybe think that highly of Thomas or are they conceding that this year's become more about next year and giving minutes to Tyrus would aid in that effort?
Maybe they want Haslem and Thomas?
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