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    And Manu is probably experiencing similar feelings as Mason with regards to uncertainties about his contract and what that's doing to his head/play...it's just human nature to worry about your personal long term future...

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    LMAO at the Mason haters

    he plays hard on the court with 30 or 5 minutes. So what if he's in his contract year and wants more minutes.

    Spurs office is a bunch of pussies if they get ticked off at Mason.

    mason is a team player. stop rewriting history. Even he himselft tried to improve team chemistry by organizing BBQs, etc for the whole team.
    this. good post.

    Of course Mason production decreased, Pop has played him from 30 mn to 0, put him in a PG role, destroyed his confidence... Mase is not a bb genious but he was trying.

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    Jefferson is definitely quicker and more athletic than previous solutions at SF that played major minutes (excluding Bowen). I think the Spurs have gotten away with less athletic players in the past; the difference was those players had an overall better understanding of the Spurs system (I would argue).
    That aint saying much. The Spurs have typically been one of the least athletic team in the NBA for years. That was fine when they were executing and defending with surgical precision. Over the past couple of years, the core of the team has indeed changed. The Big Three have amassed a lot of basketball mileage and have gotten older. Consequently, it's not just the lack of familiarity with the new players, it's also a decline in play from the mainstays.

    To your point, I believe it's a combination of both new roster players with limited experience in the Spurs system. along with lingering deficiencies in age, athleticism and skill. Deficiencies the Spurs FO thought they were solving with the offseason acquisitions.
    But, I do agree with you completely regarding a missing element; a subject that I believe has been well discussed in some other threads. In the case of this team, I actually would say that two things are missing: will and then basketball IQ. Overall, this team seems to struggle with what they are supposed to do and where they are supposed to be.

    ...that and height and athleticism in the front court.
    The landscape of the NBA has changed. Younger, quicker, faster athletes have infiltrated the NBA and dominate rosters across the NBA. All of which make it even more difficult for older teams to win in this league. No longer is simple veteran experience and BBIQ a sure-fire recipe for success. Look no further than the Celtics and Mavs. Teams that are loaded with talent, albeit predominantly veteran talent. Now their rosters are also being ravaged with age & injury, which translates into lost man-games. The end result is terrible on-court chemistry.

    Back to the Spurs, there's a reason that Blair and Hill are the only 2 Spur players to play in every game. They are 2 of the youngest players on the roster. Older players are injury-prone.

    Despite the fact the Spurs FO thought they were making moves to get younger and quicker, it turns out they were not the correct moves. It's very obvious that this Spurs roster still has skill limitations and deficiencies for all the reasons HarlemHeat stated earlier.

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    Ahem. Chemistry is everything.

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    The guy is trying to market himself. You can't fault him, especially after word that the FO is looking to trade him. It's not like Mason asked to be traded. He only made mention of it after the organizations intentions were known. What did they expect with Mase, exactly? For him to play out of position and excel in a role he was never suited for?

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    RMJ is sounding more and more emo. Time to ship him out.

    In fact, shipping out a couple swingmen and a big would in itself help out. This team is actually too deep. Time to cull the herd.

    This.
    I'm sure that in a way, less options will mean an easier scenario for the players on the court...

    Even if Mason sounds "emo", he is not completely wrong!
    Look at what we did last year with less talent!!

    I don't know whitch player(s) has to be sacrified, but it's obvious to me that we need to fix
    1- The starting 5 (too many changes)
    2- Everybody's role (idem)

    Everything woll come off easily of that... (offense AND defense)

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    In fact, shipping out a couple swingmen and a big would in itself help out. This team is actually too deep. Time to cull the herd.
    I was thinking this myself only yesterday. A trade that involves 3-5 Spurs players for 1-2 coming in would reduce our depth but perhaps go a long way toward defining roles and establishing a rotation.

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    “Last year's team had less talent, but everybody's role was established,” said guard Roger Mason Jr., who through his agent has declared himself open to a trade. “This year, we've got new guys, a new system, you've got guys who aren't playing as much, guys you're incorporating. It doesn't surprise me we haven't jelled.”
    This is about as direct an indictment of Pop by a (current) Spur player as I've ever heard. Although I think Mason is valuable to us when he gets burn, it's just not going to happen at this point. Pop is past that by now. Mason only got burn in the Nuggets game because Parker was out.

    I'm with Timvp - time to ship him out.

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    So? It's a business right? He's in a contract year, let him earn his next one on the court not on the pine.
    It's only a business when ownership makes a choice for itself, but it is selfish when a player does the same thing.

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    It is easy to blame the new guys or Mason, but even Tim, Tony, and Manu don't have good chemistry on the court.



    How many people on here have said the exact same thing?
    Perhaps my understanding is incorrect but I was under the impression EMO was emotional and I see nowhere in the comment mention as emotional outburst just a good observation. Now again what justifies this le of EMO from the above statement only not something I know nothing about or do I have the wrong definition of EMO?

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    Perhaps my understanding is incorrect but I was under the impression EMO was emotional and I see nowhere in the comment mention as emotional outburst just a good observation. Now again what justifies this le of EMO from the above statement only not something I know nothing about or do I have the wrong definition of EMO?

    No, you're correct. Calling him "emo" is actually kind of emo though.

    Mason has only said what many of the people who are criticizing him have said themselves on this website. Is it a offputting to hear? Maybe, but I don't see how that statement could be disputed.

    Perhaps putting the players in their natural positions and allowing 4-5 man groups as much uninterrupted floor time together as possible to work out the kinks would have been a better route than the trial-and-error method that has dominated the season so far. I believe, looking at the players on the roster, most intelligent people can see what groups of guys have to play well together in order for the team reach its postseason potential (namely Tony, Manu, RJ, Dice, and Duncan), so what is the point of frittering away so many quarters, halves, and games on Tony-Roger-Manu-RJ-Blair type lineups when its clear from get-go the particular group on the floor will not be fielded against an opponent should we make it to the finals.

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    RMJ is sounding more and more emo. Time to ship him out.

    In fact, shipping out a couple swingmen and a big would in itself help out. This team is actually too deep. Time to cull the herd.
    One might say it's wide, but not deep.

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