The Spurs have traded Theo Ratliff to Charlotte, source tells Y! Sports.

[blkroadrunners]

To keep Ian inactive.

Pretty much.

[ElNono]

Why not, was worth a shot at the time, now it isn't. Did you really expect him to play 20+ minutes a game?

Why not? Why not 5 or 10?
Is he injured? He has played games for us... Is Finley at PF better?

[baseline bum]

Having Ratliff was useless for a team that has no shot at contending, and at least Holt gets $1.6M or so back on the huge investment he made that blew up in his face this season.

[Libri]

I leave for half an hour and there's news the Spurs made a trade. Maybe I should leave again, this time for two hours.

[MrFundamental]

Why not? Why not 5 or 10?

Cause he wouldn't last the season playing 5-10 min/game. The last time he came close to playing an entire season was 03.

Is he injured? He has played games for us... Is Finley at PF better?

Yes, Finley is better... (see: false dichotomy)

[timvp]

Somebody remind me again why did we sign Theo at all?

They didn't know Blair would be this good. With Bonner starting, there are four legit bigs who need to be in the rotation. Add in small ball and Ratliff wasn't going to play much at all anymore.

[ashbeeigh]

Nevermind. I'm always late to the party.

[objective]

And if Mahinmi hasn't been traded, it's quite in-understandable.

Either Spurs tried to trade him and failed at it or they wanted to keep it.

Mahinmi hasn't been mentioned in a single trade rumor and I think he could have been traded quite easily to the Nets. It doesn't look like Spurs have really try to trade him.

I don't see the point in keeping Ian. It will cost some money and won't help the team short or long term wise. Short term wise, Ian is still raw and would do mistakes. Long term wise, his contract makes the situation extremely complicated.

I'm lost.

The plot of the tv show LOST makes more sense than how the Spurs have handled Mahinmi.

[ElNono]

Cause he wouldn't last the season playing 5-10 min/game. The last time he came close to playing an entire season was 03.

So you're telling me it didn't make sense to sign him up in the first place...
Which contradicts what you said 3 posts ago...

Yes, Finley is better... (see: false dichotomy)

How is it a false dichotomy? Has Pop not played Finley next to Duncan at PF while Theo was sitting on the bench?

[PM5K]

Great, now we can pick up Drew Gooden ;-)

[timvp]

And if Mahinmi hasn't been traded, it's quite in-understandable.

Either Spurs tried to trade him and failed at it or they wanted to keep it.

Mahinmi hasn't been mentioned in a single trade rumor and I think he could have been traded quite easily to the Nets. It doesn't look like Spurs have really try to trade him.

I don't see the point in keeping Ian. It will cost some money and won't help the team short or long term wise. Short term wise, Ian is still raw and would do mistakes. Long term wise, his contract makes the situation extremely complicated.

I'm lost.

Yeah, it really doesn't make much sense. Salary dumping Mahinmi seemed like a given. Now we'll have to see if the Spurs buy him out. If they don't, it'll REALLY be confusing.

If you play him this year, he'll likely suck and hurt the team or play well enough to the point he can't be kept in the offseason. Both seem like negatives.

Not playing him with the hopes of signing him in the offseason to a small contract may be the plan ... but they would have traveled a weird route to get to that point. Mahinmi remains a mystery.

Although, hopefully now a uniformed mystery

[ElNono]

They didn't know Blair would be this good. With Bonner starting, there are four legit bigs who need to be in the rotation. Add in small ball and Ratliff wasn't going to play much at all anymore.

Exactly. Like I said, further confirmation we're going with small ball all the way...

[ElNono]

Having Ratliff was useless for a team that has no shot at contending, and at least Holt gets $1.6M or so back on the huge investment he made that blew up in his face this season.

This makes sense too. Try to trim where he can. That's why I'm surprised we didn't dump Ian's salary also.

[MrFundamental]

So you're telling me it didn't make sense to sign him up in the first place...

Yes ...

I'm telling you at the time (considering the season isn't static) it was a decent move, now the negatives outweigh the positives in keeping him. Is it that hard to understand?

How is it a false dichotomy? Has Pop not played Finley next to Duncan at PF while Theo was sitting on the bench?

Just because I don't care that Ratliff is gone, doesn't mean Finley is better at PF. IOW, just because it's not Monday doesn't make it Thursday.

[Spursmania]

There is no "source" for the DJ Augustine part. It was only speculation on the board. Looks more like it's only for cap relief and maybe a second round pick or somethign of the like. Numbers woul dnever work with DJ for Theo. Theo is only making the veteran minimum.

Why am I not surprised? So, that's all we did. Unload Theo?
Great...

[MrFundamental]

Having Ratliff was useless for a team that has no shot at contending, and at least Holt gets $1.6M or so back on the huge investment he made that blew up in his face this season.

Bingo, it was assumed after the RJ trade that this team would go a ways into the postseason (and gain the extra flow of money that comes with it); now, not so much.

[Spurs Brazil]

Bonner starting

I can't believe we'll have to see this again. It failed big time last season and now we'll see Bonner starting again

UNBELIEVABLE

[crc21209]

Bonner sucks...plain and simple. On no other NBA team would this guy be starting, except the Spurs. Why? I don't know....

[ElNono]

Yes ...

I'm telling you at the time (considering the season isn't static) it was a decent move, not the negatives outweigh the positives in keeping him. Is it that hard to understand?

How is a decent move to sign up a vet that can't even play 20 minutes a night (according to you), that's 37 years old, that has a bad back (according to you), that has been unable to play an entire season in 7 years and when your plan is to play small ball anyways?

You need to step up your game, Mr Fundamental.

Just because I don't care that Ratliff is gone, doesn't mean Finley is better at PF. IOW, just because it's not Monday doesn't make it Thursday.

You're the one claiming that we shipped Ratliff because he's a washed up 37 years old. Yet, we have room to play a soon to be 37 year old washed up Finley playing the PF role.

I don't really care we moved Ratliff either since Pop was not going to play him. He's obviously in love with small ball, that he won't give anybody taller than 6'10 a chance. Young (Ian) or old (Ratliff). Just don't ask me to be pleased about it.

[Obstructed_View]

They are only gonna dress 11?

If he's in uniform sitting on the bench and not playing I don't quite understand how you think that's a change in the rotation. I know you're desperate to give Pop credit for this move as if it actually improves the team instead of being a strict salary/lux tax dump, but stop being obtuse. Even you aren't this dumb.

[objective]

Just because I don't care that Ratliff is gone, doesn't mean Finley is better at PF. IOW, just because it's not Monday doesn't make it Thursday.

SpursDays of the week . . .

Sunday : McDyess at the 4/5
Monday : Tall C/PF at the 4/5 (Ratliff/Ian) (mondays never happen)
Tuesday : Jefferson at the 4/5
Wednesday : Bonner at the 4/5
Thursday : Finley at the 4/5
Friday : Ginobili at the 4/5
Saturday : Bogans at the 4/5

Any day of the week, the ship be sinkin'.

[crc21209]

I can't believe we'll have to see this again. It failed big time last season and now we'll see Bonner starting again

UNBELIEVABLE

Hearing Bonner's name being yelled out by the PA announcer as the starting Center makes me wanna

[timvp]

I can't believe we'll have to see this again. It failed big time last season and now we'll see Bonner starting again

UNBELIEVABLE

Exactly. I have supported Bonner as a bench player. He's actually pretty useful in that role. But as a starter? It's literally mind boggling. I can't even type straight.

And then perhaps even worse, we have to watch Bogans start.

There's a good chance this will be a very painful final 30 games or whatever it is.

[Mr. Body]

Every time you hear the word 'Bonner' think the word 'Scola'. Because that's who we could have had.

[ElNono]

Every time you hear the word 'Bonner' think the word 'Scola'. Because that's who we could have had.

Scola thread!!