Hairston already proved he is better then Bogans

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Some people are underestimating how stupid of a decision Pop made by putting Hairston in the game at that point..

-He's played 1 actual game all year..
-He hadn't played all game..
-It's a pressure situation that he's never been in..
-He has to cover Steve ing Nash..

What kind of idiot coach does that?..

If Extatic's any indication, then the move was a love note to all the Popsuckers so they have some evidence of why Malik Hairston is a horrible player that shouldn't be getting minutes over Keith Bogans and Michael Finley.

[Warlord23]

Pop's just putting him into situations, trying stuff, combos. The failure is on him. If he can't handle ball/man/score/situation now, how's he going to do it in the playoffs?

Going by that logic, Pop's put Bogans into many more "ball/man/score/situations" and Bogans hasn't done . How's he going to do it in the playoffs?

[DPG21920]

You are being incredibly dense lately. That was as much of Tim's fault as Malik's. Tim should sent. What about Amare going for 40? Who sits for that? Or who sits for the Rockets having 3 guys go for 30+?

LMFAO at you saying something like that when he thrusts a guy into the game out of no where at the worst possible time on one of the best shooters in the NBA.

Pop's just putting him into situations, trying stuff, combos. The failure is on him. If he can't handle ball/man/score/situation now, how's he going to do it in the playoffs?

Can you answer my question? What are the other guys going to do in the playoffs? What is Tim going to do if he does not step out further on Nash?

If Pop gives the guy time to get into the game and acclimated, then you can judge.

[FeZZy]

as long as he goes over the screens when your up 4 with a minute left to one of the most cluth players in the game

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If Extatic's any indication, then the move was a love note to all the Popsuckers so they have some evidence of why Malik Hairston is a horrible player that shouldn't be getting minutes over Keith Bogans and Michael Finley.

Exactly... The hate the guy gets is lame, pretty stupid and undeserved. But since Pop hates to play hairston the Popsuckers do to.

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I simply don't understand the glee some Spurs fans seem to get at any mistake a young player gets. I get no satisfaction out of watching Bogans and Mason continue to stink and hurt the team, nor do I get any satisfaction of watching tall guys rape the Spurs in the paint on both ends of the floor.

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It would make sense if he had minutes EARLIER in the game..he's sitting on the bench all game and isn't in a rhythm, but Pop puts him in at that point with those cir stances?..ridiculous coaching..

It really looks like he's putting him in a position to fail, even though it sounds strange..

Fail. As a deep bench player, you have to be ready. This isn't the first time he's been put in that situation.

If he can only come in for defense when he's been coddled, hand held, and played 20+ minutes in the game, he's useless to this team. Your floor outcome in limited minutes determines your further minutes on this team.

[HarlemHeat37]

BTW, if you check the game blog, I called Pop an idiot for putting Hairston in even before this play happened, so I'm not saying it as a reaction..it was obvious that something bad was going to happen if you had him covering Nash(even though Duncan deserves a large part of the blame too)..

[Warlord23]

Remember Popsuckers, the question is not about Hairston making mistakes in the 30 seconds he gets every other game. The question is about Bogans being an epic failure after starting 30+ games, and still getting minutes. Why is Pop doing that?

Put yourself in Pop's shoes (you'll have to get out of his jock first) and answer that.

[DPG21920]

Fail. As a deep bench player, you have to be ready. This isn't the first time he's been put in that situation.

If he can only come in for defense when he's been coddled, hand held, and played 20+ minutes in the game, he's useless to this team. Your floor outcome in limited minutes determines your further minutes on this team.

This logic is fail. You obviously never played sports.

[HarlemHeat37]

Fail. As a deep bench player, you have to be ready. This isn't the first time he's been put in that situation.

If he can only come in for defense when he's been coddled, hand held, and played 20+ minutes in the game, he's useless to this team. Your floor outcome in limited minutes determines your further minutes on this team.

So why couldn't he get any minutes after having a good game vs. Houston and dominating Kevin Martin on defense?..

Sure, a deep bench player should be ready, but not when he hasn't played all year..NO coach in the NBA would be stupid enough to put in a guy like Hairston under those cir stances..it's unbelievably bad coaching..

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I simply don't understand the glee some Spurs fans seem to get at any mistake a young player gets. I get no satisfaction out of watching Bogans and Mason continue to stink and hurt the team, nor do I get any satisfaction of watching tall guys rape the Spurs in the paint on both ends of the floor.

I don't want to see Malik fail, but I won't sugarcoat it when he does.

That was a horrible play. I don't expect a shot block or tip. What I'm looking for is a contest, a hand in the face. Maybe Nash makes it anyway. Good for him. If you do that EVERY TIME, though, he'll miss more than if you just go under the pick and get pinned.

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Fail. As a deep bench player, you have to be ready. This isn't the first time he's been put in that situation.

If he can only come in for defense when he's been coddled, hand held, and played 20+ minutes in the game, he's useless to this team. Your floor outcome in limited minutes determines your further minutes on this team.

So Bogans should never play. Who sits for allowing Amare to go for 40? Who sits for allowing 3 Rockets to go for 30+?

[DPG21920]

I don't want to see Malik fail, but I won't sugarcoat it when he does.

That was a horrible play. I don't expect a shot block or tip. What I'm looking for is a contest, a hand in the face. Maybe Nash makes it anyway. Good for him. If you do that EVERY TIME, though, he'll miss more than if you just go under the pick and get pinned.

So you are mad at Tim? It was just as much his fault.

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Fail. As a deep bench player, you have to be ready. This isn't the first time he's been put in that situation.

If he can only come in for defense when he's been coddled, hand held, and played 20+ minutes in the game, he's useless to this team. Your floor outcome in limited minutes determines your further minutes on this team.

LOL at you not being able to explain how Bogans is useless to this team even after being coddled and hand held, but still starting and getting minutes

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Fail. As a deep bench player, you have to be ready. This isn't the first time he's been put in that situation.

If he can only come in for defense when he's been coddled, hand held, and played 20+ minutes in the game, he's useless to this team. Your floor outcome in limited minutes determines your further minutes on this team.

Thats just it, you dont throw an end of the bench player who has no minutes and has only played 1 game in the season at the end with the game on the line like that.Thats just doing everything in your power to try to get the man to fail so you can say you were right. Name a team that has done this!

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So why couldn't he get any minutes after having a good game vs. Houston and dominating Kevin Martin on defense?..

Sure, a deep bench player should be ready, but not when he hasn't played all year..NO coach in the NBA would be stupid enough to put in a guy like Hairston under those cir stances..it's unbelievably bad coaching..

The time when there is no one there to feel sorry for you or to cheer for you is when a player is made.

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So you are mad at Tim? It was just as much his fault.

Yep, from what it looked like it was more a Team defencive mistake not just Hairstons or Tims individual mistake in general. They both could have done better on that play. However Popologist will use this anyway they can to try to make Pop look like a guinness.

[Warlord23]

The time when there is no one there to feel sorry for you or to cheer for you is when a player is made.

You're a joke. Posting clever quotes doesn't mask the fact that you haven't answered the key question:

Why is Pop starting Bogans when Bogans hasn't done ?
Why is Hairston's play (in 1 minute) enough to justify benching him, but Bogans' play (in 11 minutes as a starter) not enough to bench him?

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So why couldn't he get any minutes after having a good game vs. Houston and dominating Kevin Martin on defense?..

Sure, a deep bench player should be ready, but not when he hasn't played all year..NO coach in the NBA would be stupid enough to put in a guy like Hairston under those cir stances..it's unbelievably bad coaching..

Exactly.

[anakha]

Sorry to interrupt this latest session of 'As the Pop turns', but I do have to question the logic some posters are using in this thread.

I have no problem questioning putting a cold shooter onto the court for crunchtime (see Dunleavy and Steve Novak), but does that neccessarily apply to subbing in a guy who's asked to defend? Is defense really as dependent on minutes and 'getting into the flow of a game' as shooting?

[HarlemHeat37]

You're a joke. Posting clever quotes doesn't mask the fact that you haven't answered the key question:

Why is Pop starting Bogans when Bogans hasn't done ?
Why is Hairston's play (in 1 minute) enough to justify benching him, but Bogans' play (in 11 minutes as a starter) not enough to bench him?

Bogans' getting 11 minutes is a rare sight too, he's been sucking for more time on the floor in past games..

Also, why is Hairston's good play from the Rockets game not enough to get him minutes?..

[HarlemHeat37]

Sorry to interrupt this latest session of 'As the Pop turns', but I do have to question the logic some posters are using in this thread.

I have no problem questioning putting a cold shooter onto the court for crunchtime (see Dunleavy and Steve Novak), but does that neccessarily apply to subbing in a guy who's asked to defend? Is defense really as dependent on minutes and 'getting into the flow of a game' as shooting?

No, usually it isn't..

These aren't the same cir stances though..you don't think it's strange putting in a guy that has played ONE GAME all year and have him guard Steve Nash in the 1st pressure situation of his career?..

[DPG21920]

Sorry to interrupt this latest session of 'As the Pop turns', but I do have to question the logic some posters are using in this thread.

I have no problem questioning putting a cold shooter onto the court for crunchtime (see Dunleavy and Steve Novak), but does that neccessarily apply to subbing in a guy who's asked to defend? Is defense really as dependent on minutes and 'getting into the flow of a game' as shooting?

As a coach, your job is to put players in a situation to succeed. If you put them in that type of situation and they fail, that is on them.

What Pop did to Malik is not that. Putting RJ on Amare is not that. If Malik was good enough defensively to guard Nash on that possession, why was that the only time he got?

You don't do that to young players who you know will be somewhat understandably nervous.

[Warlord23]

Bogans' getting 11 minutes is a rare sight too, he's been sucking for more time on the floor in past games..

Also, why is Hairston's good play from the Rockets game not enough to get him minutes?..

Exactly.

Hairston has 1 good game against Houston, and 1 bad minute of play against Phoenix = Pop is right in benching him.

OTOH, Bogans has bad game after bad game, but no Popsucker will question their hero giving him regular minutes