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you from SA?
my brother in law is going through the same thing. Maybe the same guy... dunno. Did he at one point work at walmart?
sorry to hear that man. hope you are doing alright and just try to focus on something happy.
and I'm glad that Darrin is still here with us
you from SA?
my brother in law is going through the same thing. Maybe the same guy... dunno. Did he at one point work at walmart?
Had a close friend who killed himself. You need to convinced yourself it is not your fault, because it is not. All you can do is keep your friend in your heart and be there for the your love ones who are still around.
i see dead people
been thru it myself.
can't remember how I dealt with it except to remember that at least I wasn't a such a big G-D loser to off myself.
Yes, and it sucks.
My condolences. I can't imagine the pain you're going through. I guess we have to accept pain and loss in order to get through it. It's important to remember that you will get through this.
Godspeed.
My condolences, Lee...
I went through a similar situation in high school, well, twice actually. I had a friend that had begun to experiment with meth and ended up od'ing on a too-strong batch of it he had just came into purchasing. I blamed myself because he was getting out of control and I didn't really stick around to be a good friend. There was too much going on in my life and it seemed I couldn't get caught up in that lifestyle. I tried to be the voice of reason, but as some has said on here--it is 50% the other way in situations. The worst part of it all was when I ran into his mother. She and I had talked for about an hour and when she was about to leave; she said, "I wished Jacob would've spent more time with you and not the other friends that allowed him to do speed." I nearly broke down even further thinking that there was so much I could've done to at least let him know there was alternatives.
The 2nd was a girl I had befriended and really thought was a sweet, vibrant, outgoing girl. She seemed to have a ton of things going for her, but I didn't realize she had a turbulent home life and that she had even deeper demons that ran her life. It is easy to question one's actions when the incident happened, but when she killed herself--it was almost a leery sense that she was most definitely in a better place than she was amongst us. I recall visiting my old high school and seeing her picture and the facade she put up whilst smiling in said photo.
Hopefully you'll find an ease in the struggle sooner than later...
You know what? My bad. Sorry for your loss. I'll keep my opinions to myself and express them at a better time or thread.
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man. That's terrible. A friend of mine died last year, not my best friend by any means but someone I grew up with and hung out with a lot through high school and our first semester in college before he moved out of state. He died of a coke overdose. Another mutual friend of ours was actually with him and his girlfriend when he died and that guy was so paranoid because of all the drugs he had on him that he wouldn't take my friend to the hospital and just let him die because he was afraid of jail. That's what pissed me off the most. I would have carried dude out to my truck and drove him to the hospital if that happened on my watch. Safe to say that asshole who didn't do anything isn't my friend anymore and if I ever see him again it's not going to be cool at all, but yeah.
Shotgun suicide is a lot different so I can't relate on that level, but I know what it's like to lose a friend. You never forget them, that's for sure.
Great post
Glad you are here.
Nope, you're such a big G-D loser that you just watched while a friend wasted away. It's disrespectful for the living to presume the reasons the dead commit suicide, whether out of depression or cowardice or whatever reason we make up to make ourselves feel better about doing nothing.
People don't randomly decide to commit suicide, and believe me I was always thinking suicide was a joke and for the weak in high school, but when you grow up you start to see that a lot of the times people need help and no one is listening. And just because a friend (or anyone that you think is a good person, but not with the "friend" le) doesn't ask for help or vent, doesn't mean you shouldn't put yourself out there to be a service and talk to them if they need advice on anything. Some people are ed up by their own choices, but when you call them "friend" and see/feel the decline without doing anything you are the one that's ing them up.
@ Leetonidas: Be with your friend's family right now, get all your pictures and stories out, and share them. And if you still feel like you let him down and weren't there for him, remember something he was passionate about and make a project of it for a few months so that his memory can live on.
Yeah, I had a friend about a year ago that hung himself. It still to this day is hard to accept the fact that he is gone. Gotta stay busy to keep your mind off of it, and be sure to learn from it as well, realize how precious life truly is, and how in all reality, suicide is the most selfish thing a human can do, because of the way it negatively affects all those around them, and has those same affects for the rest of their lives. Never take life for granted.
Suicide is not selfish although people seem to think it is
arent the people affected selfish? I want myyyyy son back style
if I want to kill myself I'm not going to worry about my mom being sad, that would just make me feel even tier and want to end it even more
is that what people want? For their love ones to struggle through a life they don't want just to make others happy. What kind of life is that? Just goes back to my mantra, "you do what you want to do, I do what I want do". In the end that's what life is all about
Sorry dp
choice theory brah, im DOWN with that
Sorry to hear that. It must really suck. Never had anyone close to me do it. Don't think anyone close to me has ever thought about doing it. I hope not anyway.
But, the way I look at it, it's one of the most selfish things a person can do. I know they're probably not thinking rationally and in many ways we should sympathize them and not try to judge them. But when a person chooses to kill himself or herself, they end up really hurting the people who love them the most. They are theoretically trying to solve their own problem and leave all of their friends and family in a mess and left to question what they could have done, beating themselves up over it, and having to deal with the pain and sorrow. It's such a selfish act.
While I feel bad that your friend felt like his last resort was to take his own life, I feel worse for you and his other friends and his family. You guys are left to deal with it, not him.
Selfish?
They beat selfish though, they're dead. Do you think theyre worried about their phone bill or car repairs, or if their girlfriend loved them, anxieties?
They beat verizon, Toyota, love, worries, they're dead. They couldn't give two s who thinks of them as selfish
move on, they didn't die from terrorism, gang violence, drunk driver. They cashed in their chips, some of yall would like to bride of frankenstein these poor people
Quit being so selfish and worrying about your own feelings, if it's that bad, kill yourself
Really? Really? You're a dude.
Sigh
I thought this was a serious thread not more " "
what don't you agree with specifically? you think suicide is selfish, ok
should people not move on or should the verizon guy call the dead selfish for not paying his bill?
Specifically, saying if it's that bad to kill yourself. Or just the general point of view you hold. Really man? Tell that to his mom or his little brother or his grandma I guarantee you they don't think that way. It was selfish of him, period. I wouldn't wanna bride of Frankenstein him, he's dead, that's it. But I feel for his family the worst because I've known his mom since I was a kid and she was always a stressed lady who only really had her kids. Having her first born child discovered 5 days after he blew his head off with a shotgun behind her house is pretty disturbing. It's her I feel bad for.
+100000000000000000000
Killing yourself can definitely be selfish. Just depends the reasons. How many people kill themselves to prove a point?
I have sympathy too, but what does calling a dead person "selfish" accomplish?
I knew the girl thispego spoke of, not as well but I knew her. My point is you're mourning because the person is gone, not because they were selfish
if they died from a shooting or drunk driver, you could REALLY blame someone. You could take up a cause or start an organization. You can't protect someone from themselves, especially if you don't see them all that often like you admitted.
Crying selfishness is totally missing the point and putting yourself ahead of others, the definition of selfish
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