Mexico drug war going nuts in the valley...

[Pero]

Sadly, it probably costs less money to just let people take drugs and die than it does to put 100 million idiots through rehab and psyche analysis.

Drug education is already a part of public school curriculum, plus schools have counselors on hand. It hasn't curbed usage any.

Drug education? Waste of time. They're bad for you, what else do you need to get educated about? But also, just telling someone something is bad for them usually doesn't work very well. I mean , I know very well getting drunk isn't good for health (and possibly other things), and I got dead drunk two weeks ago (accidentaly).

Education about how to work with your problems without resorting to drugs is where time and money should be invested.

Hard drugs. They'll never be decriminalized and drug cartels will still be killing over heroin and crap. If some poisoned lettuce makes a thousand people sick there is an uproar. Imagine FDA approved crack and heroin on the shelves killing people. It'll never fly with the public. Organized crime isn't going to go away any time soon, regardless of the solution proposed.

Haha, no doubt legalizing pot isn't the same as legalizing cocaine.

[Death In June]

Drug education? Waste of time. They're bad for you, what else do you need to get educated about?

Well, that's sort of the view point that necessitates drug education. It's never a bad thing to educate the public about the true risk and benefits of drug use. You sustain credibility when you give them an accurate, scientific description of the drugs we use. That's the whole basis behind the FDCA and it's amendments. People are going to use regardless, and educating them prevents the most amount of harm, and ultimately does the most amount of good both socially and economically. You just have to remember that all cures are poisons when used incorrectly or at the wrong dose.

[Pero]

Well, that's sort of the view point that necessitates drug education. It's never a bad thing to educate the public about the true risk and benefits of drug use. You sustain credibility when you give them an accurate, scientific description of the drugs we use. That's the whole basis behind the FDCA and it's amendments. People are going to use regardless, and educating them prevents the most amount of harm, and ultimately does the most amount of good both socially and economically. You just have to remember that all cures are poisons when used incorrectly or at the wrong dose.

So this drug education is about how to do drugs? Like how to needle yourself properly and not accidently take your eye out?

[Pero]

You just have to remember that all cures are poisons when used incorrectly or at the wrong dose.

We're not talking about drugs in the sense of medicine though.

[Death In June]

Yes, even schedule I drugs (contrary to the wording of the controlled substance act) have medicinal value. Recreation itself is a viable therapy for certain disease states. And yes, educating the public and providing drug abusers with sterile needles has significantly decreased the spread of bloodblorne pathogens.

[Pero]

Yes, even schedule I drugs (contrary to the wording of the controlled substance act) have medicinal value.

What?

Recreation itself is a viable therapy for certain disease states.

So? I seriously doubt most people who use drugs use them for therapeutic reasons.

And yes, educating the public and providing drug abusers with sterile needles has significantly decreased the spread of bloodblorne pathogens.

But not the use of drugs.

[mFFL03]

if you think this is bad, just wait till mexico loses in the world cup

oOoOoooooOoOooooooOOoooOOoOOOO

[exstatic]

Why is it naive?
It's true what you say, but that doesn't mean they have to do drugs. ty stuff happens to me sometimes, and even more ty stuff sometimes happens to some people I know, but we're not using drugs because of it (ok, some smoke pot occasionally, but it's not because of problems and I think they'd be just fine without it).

It's naive because it assumes the rational intelligent human being dominates the population. we can't even get people to EAT HEALTHY, and all that ing junk food is killing them, and you expect them to put down something that ing feels great?

[admiralsnackbar]

It's naive because it assumes the rational intelligent human being dominates the population. we can't even get people to EAT HEALTHY, and all that ing junk food is killing them, and you expect them to put down something that ing feels great?

Isn't that an equally strong argument for some sort of legalization?

[TDMVPDPOY]

u know with this drug war

for every member or leader gets killed, there is always someone waitin in line to take the top job....thats when the new generation of hard s come up and try to earn the reputation in the trade.

[Pero]

It's naive because it assumes the rational intelligent human being dominates the population. we can't even get people to EAT HEALTHY, and all that ing junk food is killing them, and you expect them to put down something that ing feels great?

LOL! Good point. Something should be done about that too. In fact I think if you want people to stop drugs you have to teach them to live healthier lives in general.

But all these things aren't in the interest of powers that be. There's no profit in health.

[baseline bum]

LOL! Good point. Something should be done about that too. In fact I think if you want people to stop drugs you have to teach them to live healthier lives in general.

But all these things aren't in the interest of powers that be. There's no profit in health.

Why should people stop using drugs? Weed, beer, tequila, acid, and caffeine are all great, as I'd imagine shrooms and peyote are too (never tried them).

[TDMVPDPOY]

Why should people stop using drugs? Weed, beer, tequila, acid, and caffeine are all great, as I'd imagine shrooms and peyote are too (never tried them).

even with all the govt help and , ppl dont listen to it...imo theres no point raises taxes on those sort of products.....the only solution is raising the insurance premiums on these type of heavy users....or tell them such services when in need will be avoided cause the service cant handle such a case

[Pero]

Why should people stop using drugs? Weed, beer, tequila, acid, and caffeine are all great, as I'd imagine shrooms and peyote are too (never tried them).

Come on, we're not talking about that kind of thing. But since you mention it, what are they so great for?

[baseline bum]

Come on, we're not talking about that kind of thing. But since you mention it, what are they so great for?

They're fun. What's so great about having a stick up your ass?

[Pero]

They're fun. What's so great about having a stick up your ass?

Well, it's healthier than drugs.
Anyway, what's fun isn't necessarily good for you.

[Death In June]

But not the use of drugs.

That's an unrealistic goal. A war on drugs is as futile as a war on terrorism or a war on jealousy.

Well, it's healthier than drugs.
Anyway, what's fun isn't necessarily good for you.

McDonalds cheeseburgers aren't healthy for you, but we're not gonnna pass anti-hamburger legislation anytime soon. I'm not even sure which drugs you are referring to, since "drugs aren't healthy" is a blanket statement. Do you mean all drugs, illegal drugs, specific illegal drugs...because every drug you put into your body has some measure of toxicity. Some are just more toxic than others.

[Pero]

That's an unrealistic goal. A war on drugs is as futile as a war on terrorism or a war on jealousy.

I agree with the second part. I don't know about unrealistic... It may be unrealistic because people don't necessarily want to change and even more because the powers that be certainly don't want people to change.

McDonalds cheeseburgers aren't healthy for you, but we're not gonnna pass anti-hamburger legislation anytime soon.

I'm not sure what your point is here? I don't think I said anything about passing some kind of legislation against drugs. That'll never work.
Oh except I did half-joke about wiping out (ab)users to stop the demand. That's kind of moraly questionable though.

Although since you mention it, meat industry is one of the biggest ecological burdens.

I'm not even sure which drugs you are referring to, since "drugs aren't healthy" is a blanket statement. Do you mean all drugs, illegal drugs, specific illegal drugs...because every drug you put into your body has some measure of toxicity. Some are just more toxic than others.

Obviously in a thread that was originally about wars between drug cartels in Mexico I am thinking about illegal aspirin.

[CosmicCowboy]

time to get back on topic.

picture below not for weak stomachs

http://giovanniworld.files.wordpress...drug-wars2.jpg

[Whisky Dog]

Dude that's ed up. What was the story with that?

[CosmicCowboy]

Dude that's ed up. What was the story with that?

like that happens all the time. , a couple of days ago they skinned one dudes face and s ched it to a soccer ball.

[Death In June]

Obviously in a thread that was originally about wars between drug cartels in Mexico I am thinking about illegal aspirin.

Why should people stop using drugs? Weed, beer, tequila, acid, and caffeine are all great, as I'd imagine shrooms and peyote are too (never tried them).

Come on, we're not talking about that kind of thing.

As far as I know, the Gulf Cartel is in the marijuana trade. But yeah, let's get back on topic. That picture is pretty disturbing.

[Pero]

That picture is pretty disturbing.

No kidding.

[Das Texan]

You couldnt pay me to cross the border right now.

[lil_penny]

There's a video on the net if I can find it where like 5 guys are in a shower area with their body laying on the grounds and 5 neatly lined up heads are sitting on the ground.. I think the zetas were responsible for it.. but yea you could tell they were alive when decapitated.