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    Screw Shakur or Antonio Daniels. Coby Karl or guys who at least play good defense like Garret Temple and Cedric Jackson are better than Shakur. I'd rather wait for Conroy or call-up a guy who already know the Spurs, like Farmer.

    Think out of the box:call-up Trey Johnson and let him play the PG position. Most talented playmaker/floor-general in the D-League by far.

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    What about speedy claxton? Last I heard he was cut, not sure if he is even healthy or not..anybody know much about his status?

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    What about speedy claxton? Last I heard he was cut, not sure if he is even healthy or not..anybody know much about his status?
    Speedy's played 15 minutes total in the last three seasons, none this year. He's done.

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    It seems that most reasonable posters are in agreement that whoever the Spurs decide to sign will probably get very little, if any, PT. However, there is always the possibility, if the Spurs suffer another injury, that the 13th man might have to play a little. If this is the case, I don't see the point in calling up a d-leaguer who the Spurs would not be interested in long term. I think a veteran is going to get the call because insurance wise, Pop would be more comfortable with someone with experience.
    I don't think Mike James is as bad as everyone is making him out to be. The only thing that concerns me about him is rust. He just hasn't logged a lot of minutes the last couple of seasons.
    Just out of curiosity, as far as d-leaguers go, what's going on with Dontell Jefferson? I didn't see anyone mention him.

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    Dontell Jefferson is injured. Good idea though. Another possible D-League call-up: Gabe Pruitt - 2 years of experience with the Celtics, very good defender (word is that he has a drinking problem, which may be a bit of a problem).

    If it's a DLeague PG it's probably going to be Jerrells or Blake Ahearn though.

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    Parker's injury doesn't change the profile of our 13th man in my opinion. Just sign whatever player, at any position, that has the best chance of making the team next year.

    Let the player get used to Pop and the system.

    There's no way Pop is playing a D league point guard more than 5 seconds at a time. Pop might play a veteran if he liked them but we have no idea yet if Pop has an unexplained and unjustified interest in Mike James or someone else like that.

    Mason is now the backup, and hopefully, Malik fills in for Mason's 7 minutes a game, if not more.

    I don't see what the big fuss is about. Pop is more likely to shorten the rotation then expand it at this point anyway.

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    Screw Shakur or Antonio Daniels. Coby Karl or guys who at least play good defense like Garret Temple and Cedric Jackson are better than Shakur. I'd rather wait for Conroy or call-up a guy who already know the Spurs, like Farmer.
    I mentioned Shakur over Jerrells mainly because of his defense. Temple is still quite inconsistent at running the point. Shakur is raw, but he has potential and performed well even when Tulsa had three Thunder assignees playing alongside him.

    Think out of the box:call-up Trey Johnson and let him play the PG position. Most talented playmaker/floor-general in the D-League by far.
    I don't think anyone mentioned is going to get any real minutes, but Johnson would be fine to try out too. I'm not sold on his defending quicker guards though. I forgot he was back. And I'd say Curtis Stinson is the best playmaker in the D-League since he has a whole season from which to judge, but he can't shoot at all.

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    Wow! Now those were some dark days for SAS. Post Gervin, Gilmore (I think) with Johnny Moore and Alvin Robertson not getting a chance to make it work. Bob Bass about to draft Johnny Dawkins in a few months.

    I don't miss those days.

    A $5 ticket was one good thing.

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    I think the Spurs go for the cheapest solution possible. The net result from the teams overall performance with any of the available vets or d-league are project-able to be similar, but the amount paid from a d-league call up versus a vet min signing might be over a million dollars with luxury tax considerations taken. I'm more in favor of a D-League call up, and consider Chump's input pretty highly, thanks for the player suggestions! I'd bet money it will be Jerrells or Shakur.

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    Wow! Now those were some dark days for SAS. Post Gervin, Gilmore (I think) with Johnny Moore and Alvin Robertson not getting a chance to make it work. Bob Bass about to draft Johnny Dawkins in a few months.

    I don't miss those days.

    A $5 ticket was one good thing.
    I believe this was the 92 season, give or take a year. At the time it looked more promising then now, sad to say.

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    Dude your talking 1984-1985 season when that picture was taken Dawkings and Robertson were traded after the 88-89 season to Philadelphia and Milwaukee for Mo Cheeks and Terry mings respectively.

    Imagine that a Spurs team so loaded with YOUNG talent they were TRADING for veterans..
    Looked like Sleepy Floyd to me. If not, my bad.

    Alvin was #21 so I don't think he and Dawkins both could have played with the same number. Also, Dawkins was left handed, though I suppose that by itself doesn't prove things either way.

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    That is sleepy floyd....he came back in 92 93 94 something like that

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    If Mahinmi and Hairston aren't capable of contributing, I'm not sure how any available point guard is going to be able to.

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    If Mahinmi and Hairston aren't capable of contributing, I'm not sure how any available point guard is going to be able to.
    Because of the whims of Coach Pop? Ha.

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    What's Darius Washington up to these days?

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    What's Darius Washington up to these days?
    Ballin' in Turkey.

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    it sucks how bad the free agent market is this time of the season when mike james is the best option.

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    Antonio Daniels is done. He plays up at Lifetime on 281/1604 all the time on some random league team, saw him get posterized a few weeks ago.

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    do we really think guys from the D league, who couldn't get a call up all season, would help us at this point?
    there are just no good PGs available. Manu will do the job much better than any of those players could. and it will be easier to find a somehow useful SG, to eventually compensate for Manu's minutes at the point. d-league as well as free agency. (McCants, Hughes, Almond).
    if it comes to the question, whether the Spurs have enough quick players to defend the other teams PGs, then the answer can't be one of the mentioned veterans (Daniels, James) anyhow. in this case McCants would be the best option and to play him alongside Manu, who does the playmaking on offense and both switch position on defense.

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    do we really think guys from the D league, who couldn't get a call up all season, would help us at this point?
    there are just no good PGs available. Manu will do the job much better than any of those players could. and it will be easier to find a somehow useful SG, to eventually compensate for Manu's minutes at the point. d-league as well as free agency. (McCants, Hughes, Almond).
    if it comes to the question, whether the Spurs have enough quick players to defend the other teams PGs, then the answer can't be one of the mentioned veterans (Daniels, James) anyhow. in this case McCants would be the best option and to play him alongside Manu, who does the playmaking on offense and both switch position on defense.
    Why do you think McCants is a better option than guys from the D-League?

    (and I actually like McCants potential, but he hasn't played compe ive basketball in almost a year while the D-Leaguers at least are in shape. Plus, if I wanted someone to defend PGs and make a couple of shots in limited minutes, I'd pick 10 D-League players before McCants)
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    I mentioned Shakur over Jerrells mainly because of his defense. Temple is still quite inconsistent at running the point. Shakur is raw, but he has potential and performed well even when Tulsa had three Thunder assignees playing alongside him.

    I don't think anyone mentioned is going to get any real minutes, but Johnson would be fine to try out too. I'm not sold on his defending quicker guards though. I forgot he was back. And I'd say Curtis Stinson is the best playmaker in the D-League since he has a whole season from which to judge, but he can't shoot at all.
    I think Shakur's potential is limited by his lack of decision making/purpose. He's good making plays off ISOs and off the pick'n'roll, but I think he's too mistaken prone to ever be the primary ball-handler, even as a change of page guard off the bench, for a NBA team + he will struggle to transfer his scoring skills at the rim at a higher level. Temple at least have potential as a big time perimeter stopper and I liked his composure when I saw him playing even for the Rockets.

    Yeah, Stinson may be a better playmaker for now, but he's too flawed.

    I agree about the minutes, but it only takes a small injury and 2 quick fouls to have this guy on the floor for some time.

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    Why do you think McCants is a better option than guys from the D-League?

    (and I actually like McCants potential, but he hasn't played compe ive basketball in almost a year while the D-Leaguers at least are in shape. Plus, if I wanted someone to defend PGs and make a couple of shots in limited minutes, I'd pick 10 D-League players before McCants)
    I know that Almond is in the D league. that's why I wrote d-league as well as free agency. I was talking about PGs from the d-league. and that a decent SG will be easier to find at this point than a PG. and that I would play Manu at PG and hire one of the available SGs. and considering that McCants is (was?) a pretty decent defender for quick PGs, I thought it could be an interesting option to play him alongside Manu at SG. of course I can't tell about his shape but I assume the Spurs will invite him for a workout before they think about signing him. usually a 25 years old player doesn't lose shape as fast as someone who is 35.

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    With only 22 games left, it would be hard for any new guy to learn even the present dumbed-down playbook. If, heaven forbid we lost another of Manu, Hill, or Mason, we would need someone off the end of the bench to come in. The only guy out there now that I think could do that would be (whispering) J.V. (Now I'll go hide!)

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    Thanks...

    What about Marcus Williams.... wasn't he playing point forward with the Toros? He knows the Spurs playbook right?

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    Thanks...

    What about Marcus Williams.... wasn't he playing point forward with the Toros? He knows the Spurs playbook right?
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