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    it was 3 on 9 out there.

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    mason shouldnt play another minute all year after this performance.

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    Is this an appropriate place to drop the "If we hadn't of traded away Scola for a bag of magic beans, we would have won this game going away" comment?
    Yes, more salt please.

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    Tim played a passive game. He was not that assertive. But this loss is not MAINLY on him. Bogans, Dice, the effin RMJ. Bonner had a nice game, he did his part.

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    No, it's not. Mason, McDyess and Jefferson were the difference between a double digit win and a loss. It was sizzling hot garbage. They could have shot twenty percent combined and that would have got it done...it's an unbelievable level of suck those three reached tonight.

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    A couple of times Tim didn't box out and let a damn guard like West flash by him for a rebound and put back. couple of lazy passes, not just the one to Manu in the corner. playing. He played OK on offense but seemed not focused. May have given up for season.

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    Middle of the fourth, Manu hits a three. Spurs up by 5. Cavs call timeout.
    Return from the timeout Manu's on the bench??? Probably less than 2 minutes pass, game tied.

    I understand a guy has to rest, but to pull the guy who the entire offense is going through right after he just hit a three. Pop that's "Manu Ginobili", let him play.

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    i think pop should also get the blame in this game also...

    he should just resigned imo....

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    Tim has earned a night off with 4 trophies. Mason and Bonner and Jefferson are sacks of .

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    Duncan need to rest until next season, maybe it will save him little of his future

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    Well, I'm so used to those losses now this season that I can't possibly be more pissed than that

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    Yes, more salt please.
    It was sarcasm, really. Figured I would steal the thunder from those who really mean it.

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    Duncan didn't play well, but he wasn't even close to the top of the list..

    He should have been more aggressive and his rebounding was poor(due to lack of effort..he wasn't even trying to move for some of them, it was annoying to watch)..

    #1. Mason..
    #2. Jefferson..
    #3. McDyess..
    #4. Bogans..
    I'm flat out confused at this point. Is he just lazy (which I find hard to believe, considering the urgency of the situation and even in their diminished state, the quality of the opposition) or does he just lack the strength to dominate in the post the way he once did when he was a younger, quicker 248, or when he was a stronger, bulkier 255-260? He's down to 240 and even though he's longer than a number of his counterparts, he rarely get's deep position on them.

    I'm not making an excuse for him, because I already thoroughly ripped him in another thread, but you look at say, Hickson, who's 242, but only about 6-8 (listed at 6-9) and Duncan was content to attempt to basically out lengthen him, by shooting one handed fallaway's over the top.

    He can't be pacing himself because deep down, you know he knows that this team isn't going anywhere and the laziness bit I don't buy (he's too much of a compe or), so if it's not the lack of strength, then I don't know what it is. Even if it is that, he's got to be more assertive. He should have slapped a 27/14/3 on the Cavs tonight. Instead, he couldn't even reach half of those totals.

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    Too may missed opportunities at the rim. Missed tip-ins, traveling calls... Disappointing.

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    Duncan didn't play well, but he wasn't even close to the top of the list..

    He should have been more aggressive and his rebounding was poor(due to lack of effort..he wasn't even trying to move for some of them, it was annoying to watch)..

    #1. Mason..
    #2. Jefferson..
    #3. McDyess..
    #4. Bogans..
    #1. Joey Crawford
    #2. Pop
    #3. Mason
    #4. Jefferson

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    You have to wonder about Tim when he has a game like this, no energy, no interest, lackadaisical, shuffling around, a bemused WGAF? face.

    With Tony down, has he simply given up on the season?

    He can still take that $250K to the bank tomorrow, no matter how little effort and leadership his brings.

    In Tony's absence, he certainly wasn't one to step up, and give Manu some help.

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    Several weeks ago Duncan had a slump, we found out after that his knees were bothering him during that stretch . My first thought when he has an off game is his health, not his heart.

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    I'm flat out confused at this point. Is he just lazy (which I find hard to believe, considering the urgency of the situation and even in their diminished state, the quality of the opposition) or does he just lack the strength to dominate in the post the way he once did when he was a younger, quicker 248, or when he was a stronger, bulkier 255-260? He's down to 240 and even though he's longer than a number of his counterparts, he rarely get's deep position on them.

    I'm not making an excuse for him, because I already thoroughly ripped him in another thread, but you look at say, Hickson, who's 242, but only about 6-8 (listed at 6-9) and Duncan was content to attempt to basically out lengthen him, by shooting one handed fallaway's over the top.

    He can't be pacing himself because deep down, you know he knows that this team isn't going anywhere and the laziness bit I don't buy (he's too much of a compe or), so if it's not the lack of strength, then I don't know what it is. Even if it is that, he's got to be more assertive. He should have slapped a 27/14/3 on the Cavs tonight. Instead, he couldn't even reach half of those totals.
    I don't think it's the size TBH..in the 1st half of the season, he was using an array of moves, mostly face-up but some post too, and he was doing them all fluidly and with a lot of success..

    I think that he's wearing down, but I don't think it's the same as last year..it is disheartening that the FO didn't help him inside the paint though, he's still battling all by himself in there..

    His shot selection has been terrible as of late, that's for sure..

    I usually wait until the playoffs to judge Timmy..we'll see what he does down the stretch this season..

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    today he struggled against dleague roster, fkn lame

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    He should have played better, but Hickson and Varejao aren't exactly "D-league" players..

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    Several weeks ago Duncan had a slump, we found out after that his knees were bothering him during that stretch . My first thought when he has an off game is his health, not his heart.
    This isn't an off game, this is now an ongoing trend. I thought it was him pacing himself against lesser teams/the fact that the Spurs played/traveled a lot in a short period of time, plus the fact that finally others were starting to step up. So I gave him the benefit of the doubt and understood why he'd do that, realizing it also had to be partially out of necessity so that he doesn't wear himself down.

    But look at this situation tonight: Parker done for probably the remainder of the regular season, on the road, playing the best team in the league, they have no one capable of guarding him if he asserts himself and he goes meekly into the night? Something's wrong. The Duncan I know, in this situation, would have dominated this game. He proved earlier in the season that he can still do that more than once in a blue moon. When's the last time he dominated a game, though? Maybe he just doesn't have the legs for it past the All-Star break or so anymore, I don't know, but something is not right. Like you, I tend to believe it's not a question of heart. He's too compe ive a guy and seemingly always steps up when he needs to. That he didn't in this situation is alarming.

    I don't think it's the size TBH..in the 1st half of the season, he was using an array of moves, mostly face-up but some post too, and he was doing them all fluidly and with a lot of success..

    I think that he's wearing down, but I don't think it's the same as last year..it is disheartening that the FO didn't help him inside the paint though, he's still battling all by himself in there..

    His shot selection has been terrible as of late, that's for sure..

    I usually wait until the playoffs to judge Timmy..we'll see what he does down the stretch this season..
    I agree. At this point in his career, he has to be strictly a center because he doesn't have the mobility to guard power forwards. However, he's not a true center. What that means is that he needs a center-sized big (Splitter is probably the most realistic, best option attainable) to guard mobile power forwards and help him defend the rim. Having another immobile, old big next to him, who can't defend the rim is not the answer.

    The Spurs are always concerned with having a big who can shoot next to him, but that should no longer be their primary concern. He need another legit big next to him, not some 6-9 old guy who's limited or some one dimensional, un-athletic 6-9 guy.

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    He should have played better, but Hickson and Varejao aren't exactly "D-league" players..
    No, but Hickson was the primary Duncan defender and Duncan has him by about 3 inches. Not to mention, Hickson is not exactly known as Thomas (Kurt) in defending the post. Duncan should have dominated him. Varejao is an All-NBA caliber defender, but I wouldn't call post defense his forte. He's better on pick-and-rolls, moving his feet, staying in front of guards, pestering opposing bigs,etc. He lacks the strength to be a truly outstanding post defender, so again, Duncan should have, at minimum, had his way with him.

    What bothered me most was the lack of aggression and assertiveness. They doubled early, but not so much late and instead of punishing them he was content to let Ginobili run himself ragged and function primarily as a ball reverser at the top. That's not good enough.

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    even if they double tim in the low post, why didnt he come out further to his sweet spot and go for the bankshot where maybe one defender would fall off on him....prefer his bankshot over any other clowns on the court missing their shots on given opportunities

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    ...but something is not right. Like you, I tend to believe it's not a question of heart. He's too compe ive a guy and seemingly always steps up when he needs to. That he didn't in this situation is alarming.
    Which is why I wonder about his health, specifically his knees. Duncan, and the Spurs, keep things close. We may not know until he feels better, like the last slump, or until he doesn't and we're told he's hurt.

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    Duncan is worn out in March- knees or not. He got no help up front this year, yet again.

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