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Enjoy your health care rationing, suckers.
pussyeater's just pulling our chains. He knows he's lying and that US health care is an unmitigated, gouging disaster compared to health care in intelligent, adult countries who know how to face and fix their problems.
Enjoy your health care rationing, suckers.
It's-a-privilege-not-a-right health care is already rationed, or 40M Americans wouldn't get their health care from ERs.
it is already rationed. Only for the rich
We are currently "enjoying" it, thank you very much. I wonder if Obamacare will have rationing like our current system.
I'm sure all those people without health care of any kind are weeping.
You're wrong. The American would have the same option of walking into the Mayo clinic and incurring debt to be cured.
That is, until our government -- through Obamacare -- prohibits the medical profession from providing medical care to anyone without insurance - either private (soon to be non-existent) or government (soon to be THE single-payer in the U.S.)
More made up bull .
You are confusion the difference between health care with health insurance.
The Canadian incurred debt for care. He doesn't have that option in Canada, because of nationalized medicine and their requisite rationing (death) panels, and that's why he came here. If Obamacare passes, he won't have that option here and neither will Americans.
Where's that on the current proposal... I must have missed it. Care to quote the relevant parts?
Except that Insurance Companies don't have the power to withhold care - only to withhold financial coverage.
Governments can withhold both...and DO.
If you can't afford it, then it's invariably the same thing.
If it's not life-threatening, then Mayo has the right to decline services. Right?
Could you point out where in a bill it will specifically prohibit such?
There are penalties for not having insurance...for employers that don't provided insurance and for individuals that don't purchase it. The penalties are intentionally structured to be less than the normal cost of both. This will create an environment that will cause employers and individuals to skip insurance in favor of paying the penalties.
Why? Because Obamacare also forces insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions. So. Why pay premiums when you can pay penalties and then, when you get sick, start paying the premiums for the insurance companies are forced, by law, to now provide you?
The commercial insurance industry cannot survive this model. That will leave government provided single-payer coverage with all the rationing and death panels now enjoyed by Canada, Great Britain, etc...
You're missing the point.
If it were the same thing, there would have been a "Mayo Clinic" for the Canadian to go to.
No, you're missing the point. If he couldn't collect $100,000+, then there would not have been a "Mayo Clinic" either.
Right. So, in other words, it doesn't say anywhere in the bill that private insurers won't be able to treat people without health insurance, but this is just some future vision you saw in a crystal ball.
Thanks for the clarification.
I don't see how that prevents doctors from providing care if patients don't have insurance... which was your claim.
Because insurance companies can price premiums accordingly. That they have to sign you up doesn't mean that they need to charge everyone the same. They can easily give you discounted rates for being with them for x amount of time, or having been healthy for x amount of time. Rewarding customer loyalty and behavior with perks has been done throughput the insurance industry for years.
Sure it can survive that model. It will merely have to adapt their current model to a different one. The rest is just your imagination.
And BTW, I'm still waiting for the quotes on the relevant parts of the current legislation where it prevents doctors from providing care if patients don't have insurance...
why doesn't yoni link the blog to his followup?
Insurers don't treat people.
Not true, he incurred the debt...the Mayo did not require him to pay up front.
Yoni Lies: health care reform doesn't block any doctor from treating any patient.
Yoni and His Girlfriend Pitbull Lie: There are no government death panels.
For-profit health insurers block doctors by refusing, partially or completely, a doctor's preferred treatment for a health insurer's client.
Many doctors refuse to treat Medicare/Medicaid patients because the allowed reimbursement is insufficient, in their 5-star gold-plated opinion.
Liberals usually like to site the Canadian health care system as the model.
Until they realize Canadians don't like it.
Wow. 85% of all Americans are rich!
Disingenuous liars pretend that the single payer system is the only other option available and also pretend that single payer is included in this current health care bill.
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