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  1. #26
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    Hollinger's only repping what his stupid formulas tell him. He does the same crap every year. One time in ten his numbers get it right (witness the '07 example he cites EVERY TIME) and he thinks they're infallible.
    One in four doesn't seem that bad imo especially since he called that infamous Dallas "upset":


    This is the fourth season of the Power Rankings,
    And for the of it:

    Believe it or not, the Power Rankings have predicted recent Mavericks games quite well. It installed Dallas as a favorite in all but three of the 13 games in the streak (at Atlanta, at Charlotte and at Orlando), with the Lakers game seen as a toss-up. In other words, 10 of Dallas' 13 wins didn't do much to change their standing in the world of the Power Rankings. Once you adjust for home-court advantage, Dallas' six previous games all were won by the higher-ranked team as well, meaning the Power Rankings have gone 16-3 with one push in the Mavs' 20 most recent games. Not too shabby.

  2. #27
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    Decided on the court, hmmm... I'll take Dallas over anyone but maybe Clevland, Utah, or LAL... Maybe MAYBE Denver...
    Utah? I could see Denver, but we would beat Utah imo.

  3. #28
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    Utah? I could see Denver, but we would beat Utah imo.
    Eh, I can justify picking Utah over Dallas in a series. I'd pick LA and Cleveland over Dallas for sure, and I'd be inclined to favor Denver as well. Utah I think is a tossup, as it would really depend on HCA. Orlando we've had some real success against and we match up favorably with them, so that would be a tossup as well. Point being, I would only pick five teams at most over the Mavs in that list.

  4. #29
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    I said maybe to the 1st 3, and double maybe (extremely remote chance) of Denver. As long as the Mavs get Denver in the WCF, Mavs are shoe-ins... (C-Bill joke).

  5. #30
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    For some reason I feel better against Denver than Utah. The Jazz always play us tough, and I don't know when was the last time the Mavs won in SLC.

    I think we have improved a lot against the Nuggets, and let's not forget whatever anyone says: Dirk was the best player of that series last year. He had legit defenders on him and still tore them to shreds. Melo had a broken down Josh and Antoine f'ing Wright on him. He's gonna have to deal with Trix, TuffJuice and Stevenson this year and those are massive upgrades. And he's gonna have to work his ass on defense as well.

    If Kenyon is anywhere not close to 100% I don't even know what they can do to Dirk, he pretty much owned Birdman and Nene whenever they tried to come close to him.

  6. #31
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    Trollinger is getting alot of page views because of a lot of butthurt Mavs fans. I refuse to be one of those Mavs fans anymore.

    As he spews this bull , he realizes all the traffic he's bringing to ESPN.com and he's gonna love the hefty raise he gets this offseason.

    Mavs fans, if you want Trollinger to get what he deserves in life and wind up a homeless crackhead who sells his cornhole for money, then IGNORE HIM. HE'S WINDING US ALL UP BECAUSE WE'VE BECOME HIS CASH COW.

  7. #32
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    lmao the bucks?

    mavs getting no respect

  8. #33
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    Teams that are better than the Mavericks now:

    Cleveland
    LA Lakers (barely)

    Teams that are pretty even with the Mavericks:

    Orlando
    Denver

    Teams that could beat the Mavericks in a tight series if they play up to their potential:

    Boston
    Phoenix
    Utah

    Teams that really don't have a shot, sorry:

    Atlanta
    OKC
    Portland
    San Antonio

    LOL:

    Milwaukee

  9. #34
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Teams that could beat the Mavericks in a tight series if they play up to their potential:

    Boston
    Phoenix
    Utah
    lol wut?

  10. #35
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    Aren't the Mavs 12th in point differential, 10th in offensive rating, and 12th in defensive rating?

    Hollinger has been known to be right from time to time..especially about the Mavs

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    Best rebounding team in the league over the last 20 games, improved defense, offense still running smoothly. Suns are in a great 18-game stretch, having gone 14-4 with a huge point differential.

    The Suns could beat the Mavs only if they play at their highest level.

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    Hollinger did predict the Mavs' demise before, but he's wrong here..it's not necessarily because of the system though..he's going by the numbers for the entire year, which was obviously a different Mavs team than the post-trade Mavs..it would also be unfair to use the numbers from the post-trade Mavs, because they're still riding high..we have to see how they look once adversity hits them, so we can see how they respond in that kind of situation..

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    7. San Antonio Spurs
    How are they ranked ahead of Dallas?
    Because the Spurs are great at beating the teams they're supposed to. San Antonio has struggled mightily against the big boys, but when Sacramento or the Knicks come to town, they take of business. As a result, they have a solid scoring margin (plus-4.4) despite a strong schedule overall (.506). Subjectively, though, I think the Power Rankings have overrated San Antonio for a while thanks to some early-season blowouts.

    Would I take Dallas to beat them in a series?
    Yes, especially if it started today. Tony Parker is the one problem matchup for Dallas, and he's out for the next six weeks. Even with Parker, I'd be inclined to take Dallas because the Spurs don't match up well defensively against Dirk Nowitzki, and the Mavs beat San Antonio in five games last year. Dallas also has won two of three meetings this season, making it seven of nine going back to last March.http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...PERDiem-100311
    Really, Ginobili isn't a match-up problem for the Mavs? All of a sudden Butler is seen as some lock down defender? Ask the Wizards about that. He's solid, but I don't see him or career playoff choke artist Marion being able to slow down a healthy (which is what he finally is now) Ginobili. Speaking of Ginobili, Hollinger conveniently fails to mention that he didn't play in that series last year and Duncan was playing on what he described as "half a leg". But I guess that didn't play a role in the Spurs losing, they're only arguably the two best players on the team. As for Duncan, they're better equipped now to guard him with Haywood, but with Dampier ailing, if he couldn't go in a playoff series they'd be down to Haywood to single-handedly deal with playoff Duncan. Unless Haywood can guard him for roughly 40 minutes a game without getting into foul trouble, they'd once again lack a second Duncan defender.

    I've got no problem with someone picking or favoring the Mavs in this match-up, but anyone who thinks the Spurs (if healthy) can't beat the Mavs is flat out overrating the Mavs or the recent history between the two teams. It's funny, everyone wants to disregard the Spurs past playoff success, but when it comes to this particular match-up people act like what happened in the past is pertinent. This is an entirely different Spurs team. Look at the games (aside from the playoff series, where injuries played a major part) the past few seasons, the Spurs have controlled the majority of them.

  14. #39
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Really, Ginobili isn't a match-up problem for the Mavs? All of a sudden Butler is seen as some lock down defender? Ask the Wizards about that. He's solid, but I don't see him or career playoff choke artist Marion being able to slow down a healthy (which is what he finally is now) Ginobili. Speaking of Ginobili, Hollinger conveniently fails to mention that he didn't play in that series last year and Duncan was playing on what he described as "half a leg". But I guess that didn't play a role in the Spurs losing, they're only arguably the two best players on the team. As for Duncan, they're better equipped now to guard him with Haywood, but with Dampier ailing, if he couldn't go in a playoff series they'd be down to Haywood to single-handedly deal with playoff Duncan.

    I've got no problem with someone picking or favoring the Mavs in this match-up, but anyone who thinks the Spurs (if healthy) can't beat the Mavs is flat out overrating the Mavs or the recent history between the two teams. It's funny, everyone wants to disregard the Spurs past playoff success, but when it comes to this particular match-up people act like what happened in the past is pertinent. This is an entirely different Spurs team. Look at the games (aside from the playoff series, where injuries played a major part) the past few seasons, the Spurs have controlled the majority of them.
    try beating a LeBron-less Cavs, then talk about beating the Mavs. boom roasted.

  15. #40
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    Hollinger is only saying what everyone outside of Dallas knows. They're pretenders.
    That might be true, but they are not the 12th best team right now, regardless of whether they can truly compete for a le.

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    try beating a LeBron-less Cavs, then talk about beating the Mavs. boom roasted.

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    Aren't the Mavs 12th in point differential, 10th in offensive rating, and 12th in defensive rating?

    Hollinger has been known to be right from time to time..especially about the Mavs
    Theyre top five in all of those categories since the trade.

  18. #43
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    try beating a LeBron-less Cavs, then talk about beating the Mavs. boom roasted.
    The Mavs, like they're some powerhouse that someone has to seriously worry about. Joke in' team that at best will push the Lakers to six games and that's only because the Lakers will probably not take them seriously until about game five. If Martin were healthy, the Mavs would get destroyed by the Nuggets as well. I also think a healthy Jazz and Spurs are capable of beating them in a series.

    No team pulls more games out of their ass than the Mavs and idiots like you think that makes them some great team. I can't wait until they're exposed as pretenders in the playoffs once again. It's the same old problems: a loser for a star and no go-to player on the perimeter. I like Butler and he can fill that role against also-rans in the regular season, but when you're talking about playing championship caliber teams, he can't do it. You need a Bryant, James, Wade, Pierce, Ginobili, etc. and Butler's not it. He's like a better version of Jefferson.

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    Hollinger basically said on the radio that Haywood, Butler and Stevenson don't bring any toughness to the team because they came from the Wizards.

  20. #45
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    The only thing that surprises me about the new-look Mavs is that their rebounding really hasn't improved. I figured that would be the biggest difference.

  21. #46
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    putting the spurs 7th

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    if the mavs finish 2 and get the spurs as a 7 they seriously better watch out. at that point they would have a lot more to lose from that series than the spurs would.

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    Seriously though, the Mavs have top-tier talent, but we obviously have to wait and see how they respond in the playoffs..they haven't had a good playoff series in years now, and we haven't seen if they recovered from the epic meltdowns yet..yes, I realize they won a series last year, but beating the Spurs with no Manu and half a Duncan isn't really an accomplishment..

    I'd love to see them beat the Lakers though, hopefully they respond well against them if they play each other..

    They look great right now though..it's good to see Dirk respond after that whole Cristal thing, I know how in love they were and how much it broke his heart..respect to him for bouncing back like he has..

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    Seriously though, the Mavs have top-tier talent, but we obviously have to wait and see how they respond in the playoffs..they haven't had a good playoff series in years now, and we haven't seen if they recovered from the epic meltdowns yet..yes, I realize they won a series last year, but beating the Spurs with no Manu and half a Duncan isn't really an accomplishment..

    I'd love to see them beat the Lakers though, hopefully they respond well against them if they play each other..
    "Half" a Duncan my ass.

    lol exaggerated injuries.

    80% of the team wasn't there for the "epic meltdowns" dumb ... Dirk's clearly recovered, as evident by his playoff dominance ever since... Kidd/Butler/Marion/Haywood/crew have nothing to recover from.

  25. #50
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    The only thing that surprises me about the new-look Mavs is that their rebounding really hasn't improved. I figured that would be the biggest difference.
    We haven't had Dampier since the break, and Haywood missed a lot of games. Hopefully it gets better

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