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  1. 03-12-2010 #26
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    Funny stuff. It is obvious at times that they use this forum as a tool from which they develop and post stories. You should send them a letter of agreement that stipulates that the Express News will no longer violate the ideas and notions of Spurstalk and Spurstalk posters for their articles. Post a notice at the bottom of the screen that all material posted in this forum is copyright protected to the extent that it cannot be used for external commercial purposes. That should cut their ideas for articles by about 75%.
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  2. 03-12-2010 #27
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    Guys, be reasonable. Express-News does its best to cover the team. Sometimes their articles suck (ok a lot of the time lol), but they try. At the very least, they give us quotes from the team. All they are asking is that all of their work doesn't get copy and pasted word for word in your posts. Its a business and if you want to see more of their articles, just go to their website.

    I really don't see a problem with what they are requesting. Its messed up to copy and paste entire articles into your topic, even if you do give a link.
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  3. 03-12-2010 #28
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    Just to be clear, by the law, they are correct. However, it has long been a courtesy between internet sites to just provide a link back with articles...particularly on high trafficked sites like ours. Because they do get traffic from our links back to them.

    I get their point, but I do think they will end up getting less traffic from SpursTalk readers because of their request.
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  4. 03-12-2010 #29
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    I noticed that a while back they used to have SpursTalk under a blogs section but they took it off.
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  5. 03-12-2010 #30
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    The Associated Press was demanding the same thing.
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  6. 03-12-2010 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
    Just to be clear, by the law, they are correct. However, it has long been a courtesy between internet sites to just provide a link back with articles...particularly on high trafficked sites like ours. Because they do get traffic from our links back to them.

    I get their point, but I do think they will end up getting less traffic from SpursTalk readers because of their request.

    I'm not sure that is accurate though. If the entire content of their article is not on this site, and just a link is provided, wouldn't you click on their link to read the entire article. As it is, we at Spurstalk are curious people and would want to know what the article says, irrespective of the quality of their content. I may be wrong, but just my opinion.
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  7. 03-12-2010 #32
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    I'm actually glad that spurstalk isn't allowing anymore links from the Express News. Mcdonald and Monroe were ing terrible and couldn't stand reading their 'no ' articles.. Always late and have yet to break a story. If anything, kori and timvp should send them back a letter saying "agreed, as long as you tell Mcdonald and Monroe to write their own material since it's painfully obvious that their sources come spurstalk."

    Spurstalk has been my main source for breaking on the spurs for years! This site was always the first to alert us about a scoop or a scoop from another site, while others like the express came out a day late...

    Dumbasses just bit the hand that feed them. Nice going s!

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    And one more thing.

    We don't need their crap. The Spurs official website post here and do a much better job covering the team

    Spursdotcom is so superior to the Express News that it's not even funny.
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  8. 03-12-2010 #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurtilldeath
    I'm not sure that is accurate though. If the entire content of their article is not on this site, and just a link is provided, wouldn't you click on their link to read the entire article. As it is, we at Spurstalk are curious people and would want to know what the article says, irrespective of the quality of their content. I may be wrong, but just my opinion.
    yes but now we aren't going to post their articles at all
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  9. 03-12-2010 #34
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    You do make sense the crimson blur, for the reasons you and Kori explained.

    I am not a regular purchaser of the Express News so in that sense it woudl be difficult for me to boycott them.


    However, it has been because I have seen an article I liked on Spurstalk that I have gone out and bought a copy of the Express News. I place such articles in my Spurs scrapbook.

    I would not have bought the paper had I not first enjoyed their article here.

    So, in making their demands, Express News has effectively lost my business.
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  10. 03-12-2010 #35
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    EN doesn't have the quality of writing for justifying a move like this. No one cares even about a beat writer like McDonald anymore when you've got Twitter, facebook, official player/team websites, etc. The Spurs aren't exactly known for dropping bombs in the press often, either.

    I can't possibly imagine cutting ST off doing anything positive for them.
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  11. 03-12-2010 #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayray2k8

    Spurstalk has been my main source for breaking on the spurs for years! This site was always the first to alert us about a scoop or a scoop from another site, while others like the express came out a day late...
    im not defending the E-N, just journalists in general, but a main difference between blogs and and actual journalism is that rumors have to be confirmed. So that's usually what takes awhile
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  12. 03-12-2010 #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayray2k8
    Spurstalk has been my main source for breaking on the spurs for years! This site was always the first to alert us about a scoop or a scoop from another site, while others like the express came out a day late...


    If not for the links here I would never see any of the E-N content. Can't say I'll miss it.
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  13. 03-12-2010 #38
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    Why post your articles online if you're afraid someone else would copy it and put it on their website? If you're struggling with newspaper sales, why post everything online for everyone to read for free?

    Bob Dylan once wrote, "The times, they are a-changin". The Express-News had never heard that song.
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  14. 03-12-2010 #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainwreck2100
    yes but now we aren't going to post their articles at all
    I understand that and I'm for it as well, we are more than happy with spursdotcom links. But I'm just trying to say that Kori's assessment may not be accurate, as in, just providing a link and a gist of the content may not provide them traffic.
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  15. 03-12-2010 #40
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    Since the Express News does not charge a fee to read their articles online ( at least they do not to my knowledge,) I don't see that it matters so much where their articles are posted so long as their writers are credited for having written them.

    Free publicity is a good thing- I thought.

    Can someone explain to me how this make senses for the Express News from a business point of view? I am curious.
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  16. 03-12-2010 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
    I get their point, but I do think they will end up getting less traffic from SpursTalk readers because of their request.
    Seems more like a demand than a request, and I think it's the general tone that ellicits an "f you" response.
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  17. 03-12-2010 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurtilldeath
    I'm not sure that is accurate though. If the entire content of their article is not on this site, and just a link is provided, wouldn't you click on their link to read the entire article. As it is, we at Spurstalk are curious people and would want to know what the article says, irrespective of the quality of their content. I may be wrong, but just my opinion.
    You wouldn't click the link to read the entire article; that's not what I said. But you might click the link to read more content on their site.

    Now, we won't have any of their articles on our site. So no one will be clicking anything.

    So they'll be losing traffic.
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  18. 03-12-2010 #43
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    They could have asked a lot more nicely. If they want to go all Texas Hammer on ST.com, 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel_luv
    Since the Express News does not charge a fee to read their articles online ( at least they do not to my knowledge,) I don't see that it matters so much where their articles are posted so long as their writers are credited for having written them.

    Free publicity is a good thing- I thought.

    Can someone explain to me how this make senses for the Express News from a business point of view? I am curious.
    They want the traffic on their site because they make advertising money by the number of visitors to their site.
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    ROFL E-N... they should be more focused in getting a more decent Spurs coverage instead of this...
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    The person who sent this letter must be a poster at SpursReport
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  22. 03-12-2010 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kori Ellis
    You wouldn't click the link to read the entire article; that's not what I said. But you might click the link to read more content on their site.

    Now, we won't have any of their articles on our site. So no one will be clicking anything.

    So they'll be losing traffic.
    Ha, that I agree, sorry for missing the point.
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  23. 03-12-2010 #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurminator
    They could have asked a lot more nicely. If they want to go all Texas Hammer on ST.com, 'em.
    Right. They could have just emailed or PM'd us first rather than having their attorney send a demand letter.
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  24. 03-12-2010 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayray2k8

    Spursdotcom is so superior to the Express News that it's not even funny.
    Oh definitely.

    Spurdotcom has stepped up their game so much in the two years that they have all the quotes and info that most fans could want.
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  25. 03-12-2010 #50
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    I'd rather you let KBP start threads than allow people to link EN articles. They are awful.
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