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    Here you go, friend! http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108711

    We don't need transcripts from meetings to know this is crazy. It's like The Onion but RL.
    I'm don't have a claim about her. The book ordeal itself has been a sore point for years.

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    When the board voted not to highlight the two hispanic MOH recipients because they were hispanic, she quit.
    Made a stand against racially motivated exclusion. Brava.

    I don't think Mary Helen Berlanga *quit* though. She just left the meeting.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6909202.html

    I personally think there should be a summary of every MOH person.
    Then presumably you would agree with Berlanga's bid to include Benavidez, since all 70 Texas CMOH recipients are deserving of a blurb.

    But maybe you more line up with David Bradley's take:

    “We are doing it by skin color, and I object to that.”
    Race neutrality apparently dictates the well-nigh automatic exclusion of minorities on the ground that their inclusion under the disclosed cir stances would only be patronizing.

    Indeed, any attempt at all to repair racial (in)equites (perceived or actual) is colorably racist and demeaning to those receiving the remedy.

    A very wily tack for so-called conservatives: all the anti-racists are presumptively racist themselves, and those they accuse are the last real victims of racism... content though they seem to be to see actual minorities used more or less as props in, yet again, the whole psychodrama about their own *conservative, compassionate* self-exaltation, this time as virtuous, persecuted victims of insane,anti-racist pagans and swarthy preachers of social justice. .
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    Boo effing hoo.

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    Nice to hear someone's starting to attack what's been a 50 yr leftist agenda in the school systems, not just in Texas, but around the country. The leftist agenda in our schools has created a level of ignorance in this country that's a national disgrace.

    I can only hope this trend continues and catches on. The louder the left screams that its agenda is not being taught, and people are gonna become more ignorant because of it...the more I will know the exact opposite is happening.

    Scream on brothers.

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    McLeroy got upset in the primary by a moderate (R) and Cynthia Dunbar will soon ride off into the sunset.

    Scream on brother.

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    Nice to hear someone's starting to attack what's been a 50 yr leftist agenda in the school systems, not just in Texas, but around the country. The leftist agenda in our schools has created a level of ignorance in this country that's a national disgrace.

    I can only hope this trend continues and catches on. The louder the left screams that its agenda is not being taught, and people are gonna become more ignorant because of it...the more I will know the exact opposite is happening.

    Scream on brothers.
    lol.

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    Nice to hear someone's starting to attack what's been a 50 yr leftist agenda in the school systems, not just in Texas, but around the country.



    It's pretty clear you didn't ever take a history class at a Texas public high school or jr high.

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    Nice to hear someone's starting to attack what's been a 50 yr leftist agenda in the school systems, not just in Texas, but around the country. The leftist agenda in our schools has created a level of ignorance in this country that's a national disgrace.

    I can only hope this trend continues and catches on. The louder the left screams that its agenda is not being taught, and people are gonna become more ignorant because of it...the more I will know the exact opposite is happening.

    Scream on brothers.
    So a "rightist" agenda, using "creation" science is the answer to curing our scientific ignorance?


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    I didn't read much of this thread. That doesn't mean I didn't hear other aspects of the story itself.

    Are we clear now?
    Translation:

    "I read/heard something about this through the heavily filtered news that I prefer."

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    Nice to hear someone's starting to attack what's been a 50 yr leftist agenda in the school systems, not just in Texas, but around the country. The leftist agenda in our schools has created a level of ignorance in this country that's a national disgrace.

    I can only hope this trend continues and catches on. The louder the left screams that its agenda is not being taught, and people are gonna become more ignorant because of it...the more I will know the exact opposite is happening.

    Scream on brothers.
    Dems need the people to be stupid to vote for them..

    Sincerely,

    Those who believed in the Death Panels

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    That's not the point. Giving him special credit because he is hispanic makes those people bigots. Benavidez was a hero and has a great story, however his great sacrifice shouldn't be marginalized as a hispanic MOH. He was an American soldier. you for molesting the race card when someone doesn't agree with you.
    are you suggesting that no hispanics should ever be mentioned because they are hispanic and the assumption would be that they are being marginalized? sort of a catch 22 isn't that?

    aude murphy was a war hero from WW II. benavides from vietnam. one happens to be anglo and the other hispanic. they are both congressional of medal recipients. race does not matter. (unless of course some idiot keeps making racist inferences and ironically claims that it is everyone else who is pulling the race card.)

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    Nice to hear someone's starting to attack what's been a 50 yr leftist agenda in the school systems, not just in Texas, but around the country. The leftist agenda in our schools has created a level of ignorance in this country that's a national disgrace.

    I can only hope this trend continues and catches on. The louder the left screams that its agenda is not being taught, and people are gonna become more ignorant because of it...the more I will know the exact opposite is happening.

    Scream on brothers.
    the new postmodernist soliloquy.

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    Southern Friend is exposing himself to be as silly as WC and Yoni.

    Amazing.

    Keep it up

    HIGHLY ENTERTAINING!

    I love this forum. My travels and living abroad gave me a broad perspective, but encountering ignorant, ideological, duped dumb s parroting their thought-makers' words up close here is very educational.

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    The left and the right never has a problem with controlling the public educational curriculum as long as they're the ones doing it. As curriculum need to be constructed and neutrality is impossible to attain, the only remedy is to allow parents, not politicians, to adopt the curriculum they deem as more appropriate. Which means that politicians and bureaucrats should be shipped out of the process.

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    Southern Friend is exposing himself to be as silly as WC and Yoni.

    Amazing.

    Keep it up

    HIGHLY ENTERTAINING!
    Too bad you fail to understand what is important.

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    Nice to hear someone's starting to attack what's been a 50 yr leftist agenda in the school systems, not just in Texas, but around the country. The leftist agenda in our schools has created a level of ignorance in this country that's a national disgrace.

    I can only hope this trend continues and catches on. The louder the left screams that its agenda is not being taught, and people are gonna become more ignorant because of it...the more I will know the exact opposite is happening.

    Scream on brothers.

    Keep your politics out of the schoolroom, asshole.

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    Keep your politics out of the schoolroom, asshole.
    Do you say the same to the left?

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    "Too bad you fail to understand what is important."

    weasal words.

    Share with us failures what IS important (to your blind ideology). My laugh reflex is primed.

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    Do you say the same to the left?
    Of course I'd say the same thing to the left. Now show me someone bemoaning the vast 50-year Right-Wing conspiracy that has dominated public school curriculum and insisting that History textbooks be rewritten to include Liberal talking points, I'll be happy to give them a piece of my mind as well.

    I don't want my kids' textbooks to read like a transcript of Hannity and Colmes.
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    As an anti-theist, I am offended by prayer in schools. What makes you "conservatives" think you're values are any better than those Middle Eastern schools where they indoctrinate students from early ages? They teach Jihad, you teach the End of Days...you're both crazy and the only difference is money. You're kids will still have it easier than the Middle Easterners and still have sex outside of marriage and still drink alcohol and get into fights...you're not fooling anybody with your religion so gtfo of public school!

    I DON'T WANT THE KIDS TO THINK A SODA TAX IS NORMAL!

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    Of course I'd say the same thing to the left. Now show me someone bemoaning the vast 50-year Right-Wing conspiracy that has dominated public school curriculum and insisting that History textbooks be rewritten to include Liberal talking points, I'll be happy to give them a piece of my mind as well.

    I don't want my kids' textbooks to read like a transcript of Hannity and Colmes.
    They read like a NYT transcript. The reason why the left haven't complained so far is because they haven't had reasons to complain. Now that they do, they're complaining - case in point, you.

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    They read like a NYT transcript. The reason why the left haven't complained so far is because they haven't had reasons to complain. Now that they do, they're complaining - case in point, you.


    What an ignorant ass who doesn't know about American public school education.

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    http://www.economist.com/displayStor...ry_id=15710558



    THE good news is that more Texans are paying attention to social-studies lessons than ever before. The bad news is that they suddenly have cause. On March 12th, the state board of education voted for a series of changes to the state's history and social-sciences curricula. The changes look small enough—a word here and there, a new name included, maybe a different way of phrasing an issue. But the overall effect, if the changes are approved in May, will to be to yank public education to the right.

    The board alluded to the controversial amendments in a polite press release: "All those who died at the Alamo will be discussed in seventh grade Texas history classes. Hip hop will not be part of the official curriculum standards." The most dramatic change is that Thomas Jefferson has gotten the boot. The conservatives on the board deemed him to be a su iously secular figure. The new guidelines would pay more fond attention to their favoured presidents, Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon. Phyllis Schlafly and the National Rifle Association are in. So are the Black Panthers.

    Some of the oddest changes concern economics. Milton Friedman and Friedrich von Hayek will join Adam Smith, John Maynard Keynes, and Karl Marx. And the board decided that references to "capitalism" and the "free market" should be changed to say "free enterprise", because capitalism has a bad reputation at the moment. That decision is almost inexplicable. Capitalism has been through a rough patch, but surely the term itself is no more inflammatory than free enterprise.

    For critics, this is a blatant attempt to indoctrinate children. At the New York Times, an economics blogger concluded that based on his number of scholarly citations, Hayek was the beneficiary of an "ideological subsidy". The board's conservatives counter that their work is merely a corrective to academia's liberal bent. At the national level, some are concerned about the impact on other states. Texas is such a big textbook market that publishers typically accommodate it.

    It is quite clear how this happened. There are 15 people on the board, ten Republicans and five Democrats. But more important is that among the ten Republicans are seven fierce conservatives, along with three who are merely staunch. This is no coincidence. Over the years Republicans have worked to stack the deck with social conservatives. The school board seats are, for the most part, small-money races. A candidate could win with just a few thousand dollars. Yet the board has some power, as last week's vote showed, and a determinedly ideological bloc can organise accordingly. To the victor go the spoils, in other words. It is a clever bit of political strategy, and Democrats could do it too if they put their mind to it.

    In the meantime, even Texas Republicans are growing weary of the board's antics. Before the social-studies fracas, there was a separate and even more pitched debate over whether creationism should be taught alongside evolution in science classes. The ringleader of that effort was the board's chairman, Don McLeroy. On March 2nd he was defeated in a Republican primary. His opponent, Tom Ratliff, is conservative too. But on his campaign website Mr Ratliff parsed some differences between himself and Mr McLeroy: "I believe God created the Heavens and the Earth millions and millions of years ago. I do not believe, as my opponent does, that the Earth is a mere few thousand years old, nor do I believe, as my opponent does, that dinosaurs and mankind lived at the same time." The Texas board may be evolving itself.

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    They read like a NYT transcript.
    Examples?

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    Seems to me this isn't a matter of "fighting a long standing leftist slant" as merely a rather blatant attempt to instill a rightist one.

    If you wan to fight a perceived slant either way, the best way to go is neutral, and that isn't what the wackos on this board are trying to do, and everybody knows it.

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