the 04-05 suns team, how many honors and les did it have?
If I remember correctly:
Nash MVP (1st or 2nd?)
Dantoni COY
Nash 1st team all nba
Amare 2nd team all nba
shawn marion 3 team all nba
all 3 were all stars as well
and you had a young "franchise" player in joe johnson
The best coach. The best player. And 2 bonafide sidekicks. and you got beat by...
tim duncan (last MVP was several seasons before, 1st team all NBA and all star but his career averages are statistically not particularly impressive)
pop (a former COY himself)
14.8ppg (all star that year, coaches pick)
and tony parker (neither all nor star nor finals mvp till later)
bruce mother ing bowen (french A1 league high scorer)
so are you really going to go by " les"?
do you think nash was better than duncan that year? how about amare for that matter, a lot of fools said he had a bigger series because he dropped big numbers but anyone who really watched knew duncan was playing with him.
that dantoni was better than pop?
that marion was more valuable than bowen (not to mention manu and tp)?
so back to my original question you ignored...
what are the stats/ les necessary to guarantee contender alpha dog status? of course you've got to say that it depends on the supporting cast.. but as the 04-05 suns show having a collection of award worthy players (and coach!
) doesnt guarantee contender status vs a less condecorated team. So how many more elite players do the suns need to finally win a ring like manu?