Too much Bonner killed us

[Amuseddaysleeper]

You need to check your sarcasm-o-meter.

my bad

[Shastafarian]

Blaming Bonner, Bogans and Pop are what all the kids are doing.

Simple question without a motive: Did you watch the game?

[DesignatedT]

rebounds killed us tonight... thats it...


still, if we had tony tonight this would have been a W for sure.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hawks got 21 offensive boards, leading to 17 more FG attempts on the night.

Dice should have gotten about 10 of Bonner's minutes tonight, and the Spurs would have won going away.

[TIMMYD!]

McDyess had 16 rebounds in 10 minutes, Bonner only hit 2 3's in 32.

It's no contest really. Pop is a moron

'Dice had 10 in 16.

And Pop is a moron.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Hawks got 21 offensive boards, leading to 17 more FG attempts on the night.

Dice should have gotten about 10 of Bonner's minutes tonight, and the Spurs would have won going away.

Exactly, it's not rocket science.

Bonner isn't shooting a high enough percentage to justify his stay in the court. He is so inconsistent and streaky it's not even funny. It's only gonna get worse closer to playoff time.

[SaTownFan]

Bonner was not even close to the problem. You put Dice in and you lose points on offense. It all adds up.

There were problems, but to say the Spurs lost bc of too much Bonner is very off base.

Scoring was not even close to the problem. When you give up over 20 offensive boards, you deserve to lose. Its really sad to see Tim have to fight all by himself to rebound because Pop wants to space the floor with Bonner. When you play Bonner that many minutes you deserve to lose! He's a decent player, but his 1 or 2 threes do not make up for lack of defense and lack of rebounding.

[Shastafarian]

I don't even care about Bonner at this point. Bogans got 25 minutes. Anyone who was watching the game should be appalled at that statistic. Meanwhile Dice got 17 minutes.

[mexicanjunior]

Mcdyess would have helped stop that offensive rebounding embarrassment...Bonner's 3 or 4 shots did not make up for Horford breaking this team's back on the glass.

[crc21209]

Eh not gonna put this L on Bonner, he nutted up when the time came in the 4th with a big 3 and the drive inside...

[Hemotivo]

the refs really hate Bogans

[crc21209]

I don't even care about Bonner at this point. Bogans got 25 minutes. Anyone who was watching the game should be appalled at that statistic. Meanwhile Dice got 17 minutes.

+1. Bogans really didnt defend Joe Johnson well at all....RJ even seemed to do a better job...

[mexicanjunior]

I don't even care about Bonner at this point. Bogans got 25 minutes. Anyone who was watching the game should be appalled at that statistic. Meanwhile Dice got 17 minutes.

His defense consists of reaching in while a player is shooting and waiting for the whistle to blow...should be getting Mahinmi type minutes at best.

[spurtech09]

turnovers and the refs......thats what killed the spurs tonight against the hawks.....if the spurs don't turnover the ball almost at the end of the 4th quarter spurs win....spurs beat themselves tonight

[Muser]

Funny how the Spurs go out to get McDyess/Blair to give Duncan help on the glass, and then in a game where we are getting killed they are stuck on the pine.

[Shastafarian]

the refs really hate Bogans

Everyone should hate Bogans. He sucks in multiple capacities.

[Man In Black]

See this is the kind of reactionary bs this board was called out for. The Spurs could've won this game. They had done a great job, despite the refs, of moving the ball to their 2 best players, and you have to give credit to Horford for making a huge defensive play on reading Ginobili's short lob to Duncan. Sometimes, you have to give your opponent credit.
Had the Spurs have won, we wouldn't be reading like this. We'd be talking about how awesome D & G played and how even though, we're undermanned without the 3rd Big 3, the team is still finding a way to get done. But because of the loss...we're reduced to Pop Haters saying that Pop lost this game? I saw a very animated Pop fighting for his team, arguing for refs to give his team some credit, making his stand right to the line that, if crossed, you get T'd up. McDyess over Bonner? Hubie Brown explained it well enough. You don't get the spacing with Dice that you do with Bonner. Now, you might think that that's BS but truthfully, how many times did you see Ginobili get to the rim tonight? Much of that credit goes to the spacing created by 3 point threats. That extra 3 feet makes a world of difference. In that case, that means Pop is trading overall offensive efficiency for defense and interior rebounding, and if his stars would've gotten 2 more calls on heavily challenged(OK fouled) drives, we could be talking about a different outcome.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

the refs really hate Bogans

I hope that's the case, I hope Bogans just gets ejected everytime he steps on the court, because then the Spurs play would improve greatly.


Also, not to go off topic, but Dejuan Blair has completely come back down to earth. That technical really hurt.

[My Fault]

Simple question without a motive: Did you watch the game?

Yes but seems unlike you I actually know a thing or two about basketball. Now answer me this do you actually understand basketball beyond a statline?

[easy7]

I agree.

[Shastafarian]

See this is the kind of reactionary bs this board was called out for. The Spurs could've won this game. They had done a great job, despite the refs, of moving the ball to their 2 best players, and you have to give credit to Horford for making a huge defensive play on reading Ginobili's short lob to Duncan. Sometimes, you have to give your opponent credit.
Had the Spurs have won, we wouldn't be reading like this. We'd be talking about how awesome D & G played and how even though, we're undermanned without the 3rd Big 3, the team is still finding a way to get done. But because of the loss...we're reduced to Pop Haters saying that Pop lost this game? I saw a very animated Pop fighting for his team, arguing for refs to give his team some credit, making his stand right to the line that, if crossed, you get T'd up. McDyess over Bonner? Hubie Brown explained it well enough. You don't get the spacing with Dice that you do with Bonner. Now, you might think that that's BS but truthfully, how many times did you see Ginobili get to the rim tonight? Much of that credit goes to the spacing created by 3 point threats. That extra 3 feet makes a world of difference. In that case, that means Pop is trading overall offensive efficiency for defense and interior rebounding, and if his stars would've gotten 2 more calls on heavily challenged(OK fouled) drives, we could be talking about a different outcome.

Gotta spread the floor.

[alchemist]

See this is the kind of reactionary bs this board was called out for. The Spurs could've won this game. They had done a great job, despite the refs, of moving the ball to their 2 best players, and you have to give credit to Horford for making a huge defensive play on reading Ginobili's short lob to Duncan. Sometimes, you have to give your opponent credit.
Had the Spurs have won, we wouldn't be reading like this. We'd be talking about how awesome D & G played and how even though, we're undermanned without the 3rd Big 3, the team is still finding a way to get done. But because of the loss...we're reduced to Pop Haters saying that Pop lost this game? I saw a very animated Pop fighting for his team, arguing for refs to give his team some credit, making his stand right to the line that, if crossed, you get T'd up. McDyess over Bonner? Hubie Brown explained it well enough. You don't get the spacing with Dice that you do with Bonner. Now, you might think that that's BS but truthfully, how many times did you see Ginobili get to the rim tonight? Much of that credit goes to the spacing created by 3 point threats. That extra 3 feet makes a world of difference. In that case, that means Pop is trading overall offensive efficiency for defense and interior rebounding, and if his stars would've gotten 2 more calls on heavily challenged(OK fouled) drives, we could be talking about a different outcome.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

See this is the kind of reactionary bs this board was called out for. The Spurs could've won this game. They had done a great job, despite the refs, of moving the ball to their 2 best players, and you have to give credit to Horford for making a huge defensive play on reading Ginobili's short lob to Duncan. Sometimes, you have to give your opponent credit.
Had the Spurs have won, we wouldn't be reading like this. We'd be talking about how awesome D & G played and how even though, we're undermanned without the 3rd Big 3, the team is still finding a way to get done. But because of the loss...we're reduced to Pop Haters saying that Pop lost this game? I saw a very animated Pop fighting for his team, arguing for refs to give his team some credit, making his stand right to the line that, if crossed, you get T'd up. McDyess over Bonner? Hubie Brown explained it well enough. You don't get the spacing with Dice that you do with Bonner. Now, you might think that that's BS but truthfully, how many times did you see Ginobili get to the rim tonight? Much of that credit goes to the spacing created by 3 point threats. That extra 3 feet makes a world of difference. In that case, that means Pop is trading overall offensive efficiency for defense and interior rebounding, and if his stars would've gotten 2 more calls on heavily challenged(OK fouled) drives, we could be talking about a different outcome.

Bonner isn't Robert Horry. He was WIDE open on his last 3, and bricked it terribly. The Spurs gave up 20 offensive rebounds, and McDyess would've lowered that number greatly. The Spurs weren't getting stops when it mattered, and while McDyess ain't no Bowen, he sure as would've done better than Bonner.

Sorry, but Pop arguing with the refs doesn't give him a pass on a pathetic rotation pattern.

[ploto]

Bonner was not even close to the problem. You put Dice in and you lose points on offense. It all adds up.

Bonner had 10 points in 33 minutes.

Dice had 4 points in 16 minutes.

Not a good game to claim that Bonner's points were worth his awful rebounding, especially on a night that we were getting killed on the offensive glass.

[Shastafarian]

Yes but seems unlike you I actually know a thing or two about basketball. Now answer me this do you actually understand basketball beyond what a statline?

I only asked a simple question yet you felt the need to get insulted. A shame. I was asking because my follow up question is this: What did Bogans do to deserve 25 minutes of playing time?