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son the point is that this is a tax SPECIFICALLY AIMED at white people. The money received from this tax is going to help MAJORITY other races. it was a very sneaky move by the Obama administration to add an extra tax to white people.
na, I just want to be clear for future reference.
son the point is that this is a tax SPECIFICALLY AIMED at white people. The money received from this tax is going to help MAJORITY other races. it was a very sneaky move by the Obama administration to add an extra tax to white people.
it was sarcasm, i was going to say your cancer can't cet cancer but that would have been too obvious.
And they dont just tax unhealthy things, i think its stupid they tax gym memberships now amd have for the last couple years.
son you know black people would tan if they could, if you want to blame someone blame god for making them untanable.
Is tanning a luxury or a necessity?
Hmmm....
I made a very specific statement. I have said it consistently throughout this thread.
The statement is simply this: Tanning protects you from UV radiation/rays. Or radiadont(typo) originally.
Now Duncanownskobe reinterpreted that to my saying tanning beds don't emit UV radiation.
El Nono reinterpreted it to my saying, tanning puts some kind of layer that protects your skin externally and that dark skin can't be burned. Or some kind of like that...I'm not quite sure what his interpretation whas so I'm not going to claim to know that, I just know he didn't refute my point and that link doesn't disprove it so he can take his feeble attempt at being magnanimous about disproving his own failed interpretation of what I said...and stick it up his dumb ass.
And blake, well blake reinterprets "some health beneifts" to "totally and wholly good for you with absolutely no negative effects of any kind whatsoover".
What I said, for the 3rd time...and please take note:
I am not saying tanning beds do not emit UV rays, duncanownskobe. - and you get the prize for the stupidest reinterpretation.
I am not saying tanning puts some kind of external covering on your skin that protects it from sunburn and dark skin doesn't get sunburned, El Nono.
I am not saying it is totally and wholly good for you with absolutely no negative effects whatsoever, blake.
What I am saying, pretty clearly I think...is tanning protects your skin from UV radiation.
It is a medical fact it does. And I can prove it.
I am saying clearly and succinctly, tanning protects your skin from UV rays/ radiation or however you want to put that part of it.
Medical Fact.
Read it, avoid putting it through the stupid filters in your brains...just read it for what it is.
And then I want you to say to yourselves, we are stupid ing idiots incapable of reading words in front of us. We reinterpret them to mean something the person did not say, we then refute our own reinterpreations, and this, and no other reason, is why whottt correctly refers to us as idiots.
What about Tyler Perry comedies?
Unknown to me. But TV is clearly a necessity.
He's an Argie. Even their rightwingers are card carrying commies by American Standards. And I actually think he is a an Argie version of a rightwinger. Their lefties make Obama look like Pat Robertson....Che Guevera himself being an Argie.
He makes movies, and does concerts too.
Solid bank, sounds like. Bully on him.
Do you like him, whottt?
I do get your point that it's a matter of perspective, hence the Jersey Shore reference upstream, for example.
I don't think he's funny at all, but he's extremely popular with blacks and I have absolutely no idea why. Then again, I'm not black.
You could probably pay for a substantial portion of of the estimated cost of the health care reform by taxing his comedies.
Way more popular than tanning salons are IMO.
Whottt, ElNono wasn't saying it puts an extra covering on your skin or that it prevents you from being sunburned. I believe he was trying to say that there's no evidence that a tan can help prevent future sunburns in any way.
Also, absorbing UV rays in small doses to prevent being harmed by a larger dose is pretty asinine, considering we have things like sunblock. Trying to avoid UV rays at all using sunblock, shade, etc is much more effective at preventing cancer.
Well since I said, tanning protects you from UV rays/radiation, at least 5 times now...and I said nothing about sunburns, you can see why his post was moot. I mean you can see that right? And then once you accept that, you can surely understand why his comment about everybody being wrong rubbed me the wrong way.
Bad assumption on his part. And you know what happens when you ass u me?
I still stand by my statement, tanning protects you from UV radiation.
Well I don't agree with that. I think we are a species pretty much perfectly adapted to this planet, I think that is a huge reason why we became the dominant species on this planet, and believe it or not, I don't believe we were born as a species with artificial sun screen on us. I also don't believe we born as a species in buildings with AC and UV protection.Also, absorbing UV rays in small doses to prevent being harmed by a larger dose is pretty asinine, considering we have things like sunblock. Trying to avoid UV rays at all using sunblock, shade, etc is much more effective at preventing cancer.
In fact I believe we born as a species with a highly effective if not totally invincible adaptation for protecting ourselves from the Sun's UV rays known as melanin. Melanin absorbs UV rays and converts them into heat. This is why sunburns are hot. It's not the that burn stays hot for 10 days afterward because it's still from being in the sung, it's the melanin in your body converting the absorbed UV radiation to heat that makes them hot.
Melanin is produced when UV rays, any kind of UV rays, interact with your skin. However it takes time to produce it and you can burn and absorb harmful rays while that is happening. In a controlled situation, that is not as much the case.
It is capable of dissappating 99% of absorbed UV radiation. Whether it is produced in a tanning bed or not. The difference is that in a tanning bed the type of UV rays can be almost totally controlled and the most harmful rays virtually eliminated.
So you can see...obviously, when I said, tanning protects you from UV radiation....I wasn't saying tanning beds did not have UV radiation, in fact they pretty much have to UV radiation for my point be true.
You can see why I didn't say it protects from sunburn, because in fact the biochemical process I was speaking off has little or nothing to do with actual skin burn, and in fact increases the heat level and burn sensation involved.
However, it does protect you from UV rays at a pretty much unmatched degree that is taken for granted by just about every human on the planet.
So I'm sorry...but tanning does protect you from UV rays.
Medical.
Fact.
Let's follow the line of logic.
Tanning is CAUSED by UV rays/radiation. Therefore, it PROTECTS you from UV radiation.
Sunburns ARE a negative side effect associated with too much UV radiation.
The question then is: how much does tanning protect one from future UV radiation damage?
[Which do you think would ultimately prove less harmful?
1)Relying solely on melanin/tanning to absorb some percentage of harmful rays
2) Doing your best to avoid harmful rays through clothing, shade or sunblock to lessen the amount of UV rays your skin has to absorb
Are you saying that tanning beds produce different UV rays than the sun? Not sure what you're saying.
Again, your statement of "Tanning causes UV radiation protecting you from UV radiation" certainly isn't clear without some qualifying statement. I know you compared it to vaccines earlier; I see what you're getting at. Just stating that the above does not read clearly.
He was already challenged to provide a credible medical source supporting his contention that "tanning beds protects you from UV rays". You know, the alleged Medical fact ()
What you're going to get instead is the runaround, trailer park science, strawman, moving of the goalposts, a schtick or two, perhaps Godwin's law, insults and all that jazz from somebody that seems to think he's clever and educated. His act is old and tired, and at this point, it personally bores me.
But you should absolutely feel free to engage in mindless conversation if that's your thing.
Yes because the tanning is a result of the body protecting itself from UV radiaton. And it's possible to expose yourself to it at low levels and be better protected from it at higher levels because of doing so. That's why the body does it. It is an adaptation to this planet. The ability to go from having very light skin to darker skin is also an adapation. It is skin that is adapatable to hot brighter climates where the ability to block or convert UV ray to heat is needed for survival, and also adaptable to colder lighter environments where the ability to absorb UV is needed for survival.
So if Huge Chavez were truly smart he would shut the up about global warming and start sending us all the free oil he can pump.
Really?Sunburns ARE a negative side effect associated with too much UV radiation.
That's not my question. And I'd say well enough to serve us as the primary means of protection for 99.99 % of our existence.The question then is: how much does tanning protect one from future UV radiation damage?
Sunscreen has been shown to cause cancer. It is not natural, it is not a result of adaptation to this planet...it is the result of some idiots saying, here, buy this , it'll protect you from skin cancer, and then it turns around and actually causes skin cancer. That is how smart we are. This is also incidentally, why I don't particularly like Doctors sticking ing pills in my face saying here, this is good for you, better than than plant we used for 200,000 years, even though it's made from that plant. And that in turn is why I am kinda of pissed off about the government telling me, hey, you have to go to these guys giving the out.Which do you think would ultimately prove less harmful?
1)Relying solely on melanin/tanning to absorb some percentage of harmful rays
2) Doing your best to avoid harmful rays through clothing, shade or sunblock to lessen the amount of UV rays your skin has to absorb
I have zero intention of covering my body from head to toe in clothing so thefore melanin will be a requirement. And I never said anything about relying soley on melanin.
However since I' don't like pills, I will choose the good old sun or low level UV rays as provided by tanning beds to produce melanin.
No, the Sun produces just about every type of UV ray there is, some more harmful than others and including any kind you can get in a tanning bed, Tanning beds can actually control of the UV rays you get the most of, so that the least damaging ones and ones with other helpful side effects beyond producing melanin are the primary ones you receive, and any of them will cause your body to produce melanin to provide a lasting(but not permanent) ability to convert UV rays to heat.Are you saying that tanning beds produce different UV rays than the sun? Not sure what you're saying.
Again, your statement of "Tanning causes UV radiation protecting you from UV radiation" certainly isn't clear without some qualifying statement.
That wasn't my statement. My statement was tanning protects you from UV radiation. Simple as that. It does. It protects you from UV radiation.
I can say it 1 million times and it will be true every time I say it.
Medical.
Fact.
I know you compared it to vaccines earlier; I see what you're getting at. Just stating that the above does not read clearly.
Ok fine but at no point did I say it prevents sunburn. Although...I actually do think it does protect from sunburn. damn sure it does now that I think about it. And the fact that is even considered debatable, blog link or not, pretty much leads me to the conclusion that you and El Nono are dark complected. And have pretty much had the same threshold for burning your entire lives.
Son, we all know that the money eventually goes back to the white bankers that can afford to get a tan anyways.
Here you go head:He was already challenged to provide a credible medical source supporting his contention that "tanning protects you from UV rays". You know, the alleged Medical fact (
What you're going to get instead is the runaround, trailer park science, strawman, moving of the goalposts, a schtick or two, perhaps Godwin's law, insults and all that jazz from somebody that seems to think he's clever and educated. His act is old and tired, and at this point, it personally bores me.
But you should absolutely feel free to engage in mindless conversation if that's your thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanocyte
I already know your obtuse prevaricating ass isn't worth a link though from previous arguments. Where I repeatedly pointed out you reinterpreted something I said...which you again did in this argument, and continued arguing as if it didn't happen and you were some sort of challening debator rather than someone who simply refused to admit they were wrong. As if you weren't some saying asshat saying I'm green! as blue paint was thoroughly dumped on your ass.
The one time I was not sure about something we argued on, I never stated as fact, and readily admitted my error. You lack that same capacity as wa obvious in our first argument, and that is why our debates are hostile. And I know the more bellierent I become in manner the more determined you become to not admit error even though you know for a fact you are wrong...and that is a source of enjoyment for some unknown reason.
This however much like the first time we argued happens to fall in an area of very detailed knowlege for myself since it has a great deal to do with the origin of our species....and that would be true even if I hadn't reasearched it before beginning this thread.
Last edited by whottt; 03-24-2010 at 07:55 AM.
Wikipedia is a certified medical source?
I still don't see in that link the claim that tanning beds "protects you from UV rays", and that it's a Medical fact.
And so it begins...
Well I might be boring, but you are the idiot in the thread.
And you aren't worth providing the link, because you are a dishonest person who thinks he's right when he's wrong. Who gets himself in over his head because of a physchological compulsion to change statements. And a stupid one at that.
BTW, nice insight on calling the insults...what uncanny insight.
I want you to go through life thinking tanning doesn't protect you from UV rays. Because you deserve to be stupid
I gave you enough of a link to prove my point. The failure to comprehend that it is so, is all yours.
My sarcasm meter was off.
Is that a state tax? Haven't heard about it...
Not this black guy.
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